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No one is using a slow twist to shoot 75gr high BC bullets. 1:7 or 1:8 twist.

OK, maybe I went little over board, but here are two examples of 1:12

-My 12tw barrel shoots them ok - just inside an inch , only one example but the 65gr.Gameking flew right through an 75-80lb. pig

-I used to use Speer 70 grain Semi Spitzers in my 788. They stabilize fine in a 1:12.

Save it for Bear. Cheers NC

I bought a bunch of 70 grain Accubond seconds from SPS, I’ll see what they will do.



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Post results of those please.

I missed a rock chuck at 911 yards by a RCH with the 75 ELDM out of my Tikka. Doped the wind perfectly but just a bit short.

I've been using the 80gr ELD-M out of my .223 as the 75gr doesn't shoot quite as well. 2810fps out of an 18 inch barrel (case full of ADI AR2208 aka Varget).

I've shot in the last 9 months: 2 red deer hinds, 1 red stag, 2 fallow bucks, 1 fallow doe, 2 large bull tahr, 2 wild pigs, 19 feral goats. Every animal has died satisfactorily. One of the tahr ran about 10 or 20 metres. More or less everything else has dropped on the spot.

Ranges of 150-270 metres on various deer, about 60 metres on the 2 tahr, 0 to 400 metres on the feral goats.

I haven't taken the .260 out of the safe since I got the .223. It just works and I like the light recoil and low powder charge (25 gr) which is great when powder is so hard to get at the moment.

I've shot dozens of animals with the 147gr ELD-M in 6.5mm out of .260 (and dozens more with the old 140gr Amax out of various 6.5s) and it kills with an effectiveness that is difficult to overstate. It is incredibly good.

Great report!
Where are you placing most of your shots on these animals?

yes pharm please post up of on game results buddy.
Big Ed

Can't argue with Path Films NZ results. I have had good luck with the 75 gr. Amax in the 223 and even larger cartridges like the 6mmx22. The ELD-M is very similar to the A-Max.

In the 6mms this has not worked out as well, the 105 A-Max was not bad but both the ELD-M and ELD-X seem on the soft side to me. I have only taken two deer so far, one with a 243 and the other with a 6mm AI so not enough to really form an opinion on yet. Maybe with R26 and esp. in the AI I am pushing these too fast for close in shots with the 6mms. Maybe the 223 holds them in the ideal velocity window more?

In the 223 I would not hesitate to use the ELD's but if I got a deal on Accubonds or just about any other hunting bullet I would go with that first. This includes all the premiums from 55 grains up.

High shoulder or just behind the shoulder in the lung. Turns the lungs to soup.

108 eld-ms hammer stuff full stop. That’s from shy of 2900 launch

75’s don’t suck but I prefer 77gr tmk inside of 200. They for sure hold together more

That’s across 30 critters give or take

Pathfilms,

Would that fallow go 200 if the other side was palmated?

No idea! Maybe? It isn't as palmated on the right side though. It's a cool head

bingo

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That.

I’ve killed my share of deer with a 223, but since I now travel less and hunt primarily the southeast, every other center fire rifle chambering I have is a helluva lot better for the needs here. If I go back to some of my old haunts to hunt, I’d think on the 223 again. Around here, fatter seems to outperform flatter. If it’s all I had, I’d not sweat it....just probably be a little more methodical on when and where for the shot.

I think that is the sweet spot for the 108s and at 3,200 - to near 3,400 is outside of the comfort zone for that bullet. I think this is true of the 22 cal. 75s they work great at sub 3,000 fps velocities. Have not tried the 77s.

i haven't shot the 77gr tmk from anything other then an 18" rifle lengthand BHA factory fodder. 2750 and a .41bc is how it trues out for me

started off the season with a 77gr into an antelope at 500 something yards.. then switched over the the 75gr eld eld'm won't hold up through a spine at 100, exit through a neck at 25, or exit at anything less then 200 yards. i got an exit at 275.. huge wound channel, big exit. 100 broadside was like a bomb

but they do make good holes down to about 1800fps. that the key. tipped a good whitetail at 600ish yards and it was hooves up in 4 steps.

and while the 77gr tmk does upset at the same velocity threshold it meets that barrier 100 yards closer. atmospheres dependent obviously.

I have a 700 classic in .223 that I don't know what the twist rate even is, but it shoots both 64gr Win PP and 64gr. Nosler BSB equally well. I have not tried longer bullets in it though.

I also have a tang safety m77 in .22-250 that shoots the BSB just fine, and I think it's 1:14.

The length of bearing surface is what seems to be the issue.

Midway had them on sale as seconds yesterday, the 75 gr. ELDM. Still some to be had but you have to get 500, still for 80 bucks not bad.

https://www.midwayusa.com/s?filters=4294966501