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Anyone towing about 12,000 pounds with a 2019 2500 with a Hemi? Just wondering how it tows with the new 8 speed transmission. Does it have enough power pulling that weight ? Thanks for all answers

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Oh, there’s enough power. As with any half-ton truck, controlling and stopping 12k lb is the challenge. Half ton pickups are fitted with “P” rated tires, and don’t have the brakes, or the weight of a 2500 or 3500. You’d better be on your game if you’re going to tow that much with a light duty truck.


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I think he’s asking about the 3/4 ton.

Pard bought a new 2500 with the 6.4 hemi for a work truck. So far he loves it. He doesn’t pull anything near 12k though.


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Originally Posted by 1Longbow
Anyone towing about 12,000 pounds with a 2019 2500 with a Hemi? Just wondering how it tows with the new 8 speed transmission. Does it have enough power pulling that weight ? Thanks for all answers


Well, I’m the dumbass for not properly reading your question. My apology. You should be fine. The 6.4 Hemi is pretty stout. The diesel does of course, have a lot more torque and the advantage of an exhaust brake, but there are quite a few gassers pulling 12k+ 5th wheel RV’s without problems.


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Anyone towing about 12,000 pounds with a 2019 2500 with a Hemi? Just wondering how it tows with the new 8 speed transmission. Does it have enough power pulling that weight ? Thanks for all answers
Which hemi motor the 5.7 0r 6.4.I have the 6.4 in my 2016 Ram 2500 crew cab.I have pulled 13,000 lbs Pulls great IMHO.Gets. about 9.5 MPG,s with that weight attached.

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I have a 2014 2500 with the 6.4 and have pulled loads of hay approaching 14k for short distances (less than 100 miles) on relatively flat ground, Texas, without a problem. We have towed our 10k travel trailer thousands of miles, all over the country, without an issue. As “coopie” said, 9-9.5 mpg. Doesn’t pull like my previous diesel pickups, but does the job.

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Originally Posted by 1Longbow
Anyone towing about 12,000 pounds with a 2019 2500 with a Hemi? Just wondering how it tows with the new 8 speed transmission. Does it have enough power pulling that weight ? Thanks for all answers


The question is how often are you going to pull 12,000 and in what part of the country?

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I looked at them, but my truck, trailer, and camper on the truck goes about 17K.You don't say if the truck bed is empty or not. The 6.4 just wouldn't do it on Colorado mountain passes. So I bought the 2019 Chevy Duramax 2500HD with the Allison 6 speed transmission.I don't do a lot of loads pulling, but it really does the job.I passed on the Dodge diesel because the Chevy has a lot more torque, but mostly because Dodge messed with their short bed length and cut it down another 3-4 ". My slide in camper was too long for it.

BTW, concerning gas mileage, I have been getting 16-18 mpg empty running 70mph and remember those 6.4's take premium gas,so you don't save anything there

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Coming down off the side of a mountain with 6 or 8 tons behind you gives you a real appreciation for an exhaust brake.


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Originally Posted by Rock Chuck
Coming down off the side of a mountain with 6 or 8 tons behind you gives you a real appreciation for an exhaust brake.



Yep,When I first bought my 98 Dodge cummins, 5 speed, I was loaded with a 20 ft goose neck, 4 mules, all my hunting gear. and hay. It pulled up the east side of Loveland pass like I wouldn't believe. It was stock then and no compression brake.

I came out of the tunnel, down shifted to 3rd and start down the mountain. I had to break and then shifted down to 2nd.By the time I hit the bottom I had used up about all my brakes , the engine was past red line, and I was doing 65 mph. When I got home,I had a compression brake put on.Now I hardly touch the brakes with the same load.The new truck has tow mode and a factory compression brake.


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Originally Posted by saddlesore
The 6.4 just wouldn't do it on Colorado mountain passes.


Exactly right. I've tried pulling 8K around with a 5.7 Hemi and aftermarket 4.88 gears (IIRC) all over Colorado, still redlined and got hot in the mountains. I was lucky to do the speed limit in most cases. Nothing can replace a turbo diesel for towing.

12K behind any gasser is going to be limited to short trips and casual use.

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Originally Posted by coobie
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Anyone towing about 12,000 pounds with a 2019 2500 with a Hemi? Just wondering how it tows with the new 8 speed transmission. Does it have enough power pulling that weight ? Thanks for all answers
Which hemi motor the 5.7 0r 6.4.I have the 6.4 in my 2016 Ram 2500 crew cab.I have pulled 13,000 lbs Pulls great IMHO.Gets. about 9.5 MPG,s with that weight attached.


What do you get without that weight attached?


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Originally Posted by 1Longbow
Anyone towing about 12,000 pounds with a 2019 2500 with a Hemi? Just wondering how it tows with the new 8 speed transmission. Does it have enough power pulling that weight ? Thanks for all answers


Couple things.

The truck should handle that with relative ease, if we're talking the 6.4L fo sho.... That's what it was built for The 8-speed trans in no longer new. It's been around for 5 years now. I had one and had absolutely ZERO issues with it. None. In fact, it was the best shifting transmission I've ever had.


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I know times have changed, and power is easy to get today.
And an engine brake is nice.


But those who would say a 6.4 Hemi is light for 12,000 pounds.
You all are either young, or lack knowledge of what used to move freight in this country.
And yes, freight. Not a play trailer, but up to 73,280 pounds.
Yes, even in your big bad western mountains.
With no engine brake, and crappy brakes.


The Hemi is roughly comparable to the Ford 534.
One of the "Big Dogs" of the day.


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Originally Posted by Dillonbuck
I know times have changed, and power is easy to get today.
And an engine brake is nice.


But those who would say a 6.4 Hemi is light for 12,000 pounds.
You all are either young, or lack knowledge of what used to move freight in this country.
And yes, freight. Not a play trailer, but up to 73,280 pounds.
Yes, even in your big bad western mountains.
With no engine brake, and crappy brakes.


The Hemi is roughly comparable to the Ford 534.
One of the "Big Dogs" of the day.


Makes a big difference in how many gears you have available though, 12+ is HUGE difference vs the ones in 3/4T pickups


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Mine is a 2014 2500 6.4 and 3.73 gears. It gets 13-14 around town and 17-18 on the highway.

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Originally Posted by Dillonbuck
I know times have changed, and power is easy to get today.
And an engine brake is nice.


But those who would say a 6.4 Hemi is light for 12,000 pounds.
You all are either young, or lack knowledge of what used to move freight in this country.
And yes, freight. Not a play trailer, but up to 73,280 pounds.
Yes, even in your big bad western mountains.
With no engine brake, and crappy brakes.


The Hemi is roughly comparable to the Ford 534.
One of the "Big Dogs" of the day.


There should be a distinction here between "can do it" and "should do it". Yeah, I've done stupid stuff in the past, including pulling a heavy tandem axle trailer with with a skid loader behind a Nissan Hardbody pickup, guessing about 11k lbs. Scared myself sh1tless trying to stop it, and won't do that again..........


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Saddlesore,

Your right of course.
And back then 13 speeds were common.
But company trucks usually had some 8 or 9 speed.


The p/u in question is an eight speed.
It makes it's torque at a higher rpm, but the automatic offsets that.

No, it's not a semi, and 40 years have gone by,
But will it do ok with 12k?

Yep.

Will your friends new diesel pass you?
Yep. (Ironically, if it doesn't break down. F' the EPA)

Does that matter?
Up to you.


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We had an old crane truck at a place I used to work that had a SuperDuty 534 in it. What a behemoth of an engine. It wasn’t running when I was there but I always wanted to hear it run. Pump on the crane had it’s own Ford 300 six mounted on the back. Pretty neat old rig.

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Originally Posted by badger
Originally Posted by Dillonbuck
I know times have changed, and power is easy to get today.
And an engine brake is nice.


But those who would say a 6.4 Hemi is light for 12,000 pounds.
You all are either young, or lack knowledge of what used to move freight in this country.
And yes, freight. Not a play trailer, but up to 73,280 pounds.
Yes, even in your big bad western mountains.
With no engine brake, and crappy brakes.


The Hemi is roughly comparable to the Ford 534.
One of the "Big Dogs" of the day.


There should be a distinction here between "can do it" and "should do it". Yeah, I've done stupid stuff in the past, including pulling a heavy tandem axle trailer with with a skid loader behind a Nissan Hardbody pickup, guessing about 11k lbs. Scared myself sh1tless trying to stop it, and won't do that again..........


Did you get it to stop? Or just slow down enough so you could bail out? laugh


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