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I carry 9mm in my 9mm. 
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rjm
was digging around in the ammo area, how bout this:
underwood 10mm, 220 gr hi tek coaed hard cast, 1200fps.
underwood 10mm, 140gr xtreme penetrator, 1500fps.
and then i found some of my hand cast 41magnum
using that slovenien mould for dimple, solid, pentad hollowpoint and regular hollowpoint
hp cast to 247grain, dimple to 254grain, solid to 262grain, 9grains of unique
i think that in the 41magnum would make an owie too. Carrying the Underwood 10mm 140 XP in the G40 6"....running 1602.... 200 grain Montana Bullet Works 200 gr. HC with 8.6 gr. of Longshot...1260 from the 6" PARA Hunter... Have the 165 MeHic HP for the .41 Magnum....14.0 grains of Blue Dot is running 1380 from the 4" 657 Mountain Gun... The 180 solid will run right through body armor...
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i've got tha mihec 180grain mould for the 41, but have not pushed the velocity side of it. Was sticking it in 41special.
i was looking at underwood's site on the 9mm version of the xtreme penetrator last night, i think i might buy a few boxes of that. I think
the 90grain bullet was doing 1500fps or so.
i am becoming more and more convinced a solid bullet is the way to go rather than a hollowpoint.
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I recently bought 124 gr +P Golden Sabers. They were only $14.25 per 50 and the testing I reviewed indicated that they penetrated and expanded well.
My likely location for needing my gun is in the parking lot at the courthouse when there are a lot of people present. I have read materials and seen videos that indicate 9mm FMJ has sufficient energy to go through two people. I don't want that. So, I'll take the expanding bullet that (1) will hopefully not injure a bystander, and (2) expands to cause greater damage to the guy intent on killing me.
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Speer 124 grain standard pressure Gold Dots. ^^^^^^These are my choice in a S&W M&P and a Shield. Hard to beat these for SD rounds!^^^^^^^ I wouldn't hesitate to use the +P version either. Elk Country
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I carry 9mm in my 9mm. That's a really good place to start.
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Sig P365. I use the Sig V Crown 115 grain for short barrels.
In my P320-M17 I've just been range shooting Sig 124 grain NATO +P ball or the Winchester 124 grain NATO +P ball.
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Hornady Critical Duty 135 grain +P.
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124 gold dot +p or nato spec 124 FMJs. I shoot a lot of the 124 FMJs that are rated around 1180 for cheap practice. Usually switch to the gold dots for carrying. I may pick up some hst's or rangers too.
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Underwood 124 gr gold dot, plus P plus, 1300 FPS.
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Underwood 124 gr gold dot, plus P plus, 1300 FPS. YE-OUCHH! that hurts just reading it.
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Underwood 124 gr gold dot, plus P plus, 1300 FPS. I've never tried the 124gr Underwood, but I used to run their 115gr GD +p+ out of my Glock 19. Recoil more like a 40 SW and muzzle blast like a .357 SIG! Great ammo, but I thought it was a little too much of a good thing. JMO.
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I've not tried any of the "Xtreme" sort of bullets, but I guess some folks really like 'em? They sure haul the mail, especially when loaded by Underwood. But then, when has Underwood ever sold slow ammo??
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Speer 124gr +P Gold Dots, Short Gold Dots and Hornady 124gr +P American Gunner (XTP).
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Just ordered three boxes yesterday along with one box of standard pressure for a 9mm LCR....
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For my carry guns, I stick to traditional bullet designs. The best of them, but still nothing out of the main stream.
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I'm not sure why you'd think "too much of a good thing" - those are not expanding hollow points that would sacrifice penetration for speed. As a solid, the higher velocity penetrates better and recoil is still very manageable.
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I'm not sure why you'd think "too much of a good thing" - those are not expanding hollow points that would sacrifice penetration for speed. As a solid, the higher velocity penetrates better and recoil is still very manageable. that was meant as a joke as much as anything. I was sitting there looking at some 10mm, and 41magnum underwood ammo on the desk. i have come close probably two or three times now to buying two or three boxes of the stuff rjm just bought. I was also thinking of some of their 357mag ammo too. in 9mm i am more into the mindset lately of wanting penetration rather than expansion.
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