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#13275142 - 11/12/18 Re: Free 336! [Re: gunner500]  
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I learned with 350 gr RN out of my 45 70 that high shoulder hits with big heavy bullets don’t do like high velocity bullets that fragment. It still puts the stop on em for a follow up shot though, don’t it. And not much bloodshot meat.


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#13278434 - 11/13/18 Re: Free 336! [Re: curdog4570]  
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Originally Posted by curdog4570
I learned with 350 gr RN out of my 45 70 that high shoulder hits with big heavy bullets don’t do like high velocity bullets that fragment. It still puts the stop on em for a follow up shot though, don’t it. And not much bloodshot meat.


Damn right it does Curdog, all the way down to 40 and 45 cal Sharps rifles with their slugs punching through at a very pedestrian 1100-1250 fps, never seen anything quite like it, I hunted the little 336 again today, I think the big boys are locked down with hot does, saw plenty of young bucks chasing does again today, could have tagged out today.


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#13821297 - 05/15/19 Re: Free 336! [Re: gunner500]  
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Don't ask me why, but a guy I know used those 220 gain Speer flat points on moose and mostly lung shot them and they did not go far. He was firing them out of a .358 Norma, go figure. Skinner Sights are good stuff and he makes one with a cut out for use with medium height Talley rings so a guy could zero a scope in QD rings ad toss it in his pack when he wanted to just go with the peep.

I called Skinner Sights years ago and had him make me up one that was a little longer on the receiver and he engraved Skinner Alaskan on it, pretty cool stuff. It's on my Marlin 45-70 and I may order one of the ones cut for the Talley's and put my Leupold VX3 1.5-20x20 with the German #4 reticle on it. A quick and light weight set up.

Buffalo Bore loads those 220 grain Speers to 2,200 fps mv and when I called Tom the owner he said the loads were safe in any Marlin, no matter when it was made. That is a mighty potent load for any thing in North America.

Congrats on your new rifle!

#13822365 - 05/15/19 Re: Free 336! [Re: gunner500]  
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Pretty amazing gift and cool thread. Any updates gunner?


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#13822993 - 05/15/19 Re: Free 336! [Re: 1Akshooter]  
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1AKshooter, LOL, having never hunted moose but after I saw what that 220gr Speer did to hardpack glossy magazines stacked tight in a cardboard moving box with cow leg bones tucked in between, I'd not hesitate shooting a moose or anything else in Alaska anywhere in the vitals this side of 200 yards.

gerry35, the heavy old mature 8pt buck I shot last November is the only thing I have to report with my 35 Remington, the cow elk hunt got cancelled till this year, the guy that invited me out had a hell of a job offer he had to jump right on, the Nilgai hunt in Texas had me dialing my Nightforce on a 7mm Mashburn Super for a 400 yard zero, good lord that's big country, the little 35 would have been soundly outranged there.


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#13823691 - 05/15/19 Re: Free 336! [Re: gunner500]  
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Excellent, good luck on the Nilgai this fall. The 220 gr Speer is a favourite for a couple of friends in a 356 and 358 on everything from deer up to grizzly and moose. Your load is not far off what they get for speed. Sounds like you have a great load in that 35 Rem that can do pretty much everything at reasonable distance. I'm going to try the 180 gr Speer in my 358 for deer this year but those 220's of yours sound very tempting for an all around load.


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#13825135 - 05/16/19 Re: Free 336! [Re: gunner500]  
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Not sure how I missed this thread so long. On receiving a free 336 as described .... YOU SUCK! grin

On the 220 speer ... it has a rep for being tougher than other Speer bullets. Not sure why that is and haven't ever used it, but I've been tempted to in my .358 Win and .35 Rem. The .35 Core-Loct RN also has a great reputation and I've got Boo Koos of them for my 1950 336SC .35 Rem. So far I've only run Hornady 200 gr Interlocks in my .358 Win.

Hope you get a Nilgai and report back. They're supposed to be some tough beasts so should provide a nice test for the 220 speer.

#13825941 - 05/16/19 Re: Free 336! [Re: gerry35]  
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Thanks Gerry and GringoLoco, and yes, I have heard I suck before on this freebie deal! grin the Nilgai will have to be taken with a longer range rig, that is big country down there, the cow elk in the timber is another story altogether, and agreed on the Speer 220's, I went with that big bullet exactly because cow elk, nilgai were on the menu for last fall, that said, when I get these shot up i'll run the 180gr Speer of the same construction.

Don't believe i'll run into a deer or pig that will hold the 180's either, even though the 220's leaving my rifle at 2175 are +3 at 100 for a 175 yard zero and only 2" down at 200 yards, plenty of accuracy for clean hits at those ranges, the old 35 Remington lever guns loaded full tilt are some pretty serious hammers.


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