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https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-48286383

Bahlsen family biscuit Empire (est.1891) which makes Choco Leibniz biscuits, employed about 200 forced labourers between 1943 and 1945
- most of whom were women from Nazi-occupied Ukraine.

What did Verena Bahlsen say?

The controversy started last week, when Ms Bahlsen told delegates at a marketing conference:

"I'm a capitalist. I own a quarter of Bahlsen, that's great. I want to buy a sailing yacht and stuff like that."

[[ The biscuit heiress has also been criticised for boasting about her wealth and spending habits.]]

Although German newspaper Handelsblatt reported that the audience clapped and laughed along with her, some social media users
accused the heiress of being insensitive to the company's past exploitation of forced labourers by making light-hearted remarks
about her wealth.

Asked about the criticism in an interview with Bild newspaper, Ms Bahlsen replied:

"That was before my time, and we paid the forced labourers exactly as much as German workers and we treated them well."

She added that the company had nothing to feel guilty about.

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When the 25 yr old heiress becomes old and grey the jews will still be going after her wealthy inheretance great grand children ..
150 yrs after the war.. laugh


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Sounds like they provided decent paying jobs to people who didn't want to work.


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Ukrainian peasants making biscuits in Germany faired a lot better that those 3,000,000
that got rounded up and exterminated in the Ukraine WW2...and a lot better than the
several million that the soviets callously starved to death in the Holodomor some yrs earlier.


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Originally Posted by stevelyn
Sounds like they provided decent paying jobs to people who didn't want to work.

What does this even mean? Do you know what a "forced laborer" is?

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Originally Posted by stevelyn
Sounds like they provided decent paying jobs to people who didn't want to work.

What does this even mean? Do you know what a "forced laborer" is?


"That was before my time, and we paid the forced labourers exactly as much as German workers and we treated them well."


Do you know what paid and treated well mean?


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Originally Posted by stevelyn
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Sounds like they provided decent paying jobs to people who didn't want to work.

What does this even mean? Do you know what a "forced laborer" is?


"That was before my time, and we paid the forced labourers exactly as much as German workers and we treated them well."


Do you know what paid and treated well mean?

That's what she says... You still haven't answered my question--do you know what a forced laborer is? Why do you think they "didn't want to work"?

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I probably see this somewhat differently than some of you do, but I don't see as anyone living today, has to apologize for something that happened before they were born. My ancestors owned slaves, that was over a 150 years ago. Big deal, as it doesn't bother me in the least that they did. That was then, this is now. There is no way that I can go back and change anything my ancestors may have done, besides it was legal for them to own those slaves.

Having said that, I'm not condoning slavery or the forced labor that occurred in WW2, but apologizing it for it today changes absolutely nothing that happened then.

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Originally Posted by JamesJr
I probably see this somewhat differently than some of you do, but I don't see as anyone living today, has to apologize for something that happened before they were born. My ancestors owned slaves, that was over a 150 years ago. Big deal, as it doesn't bother me in the least that they did. That was then, this is now. There is no way that I can go back and change anything my ancestors may have done, besides it was legal for them to own those slaves.

Having said that, I'm not condoning slavery or the forced labor that occurred in WW2, but apologizing it for it today changes absolutely nothing that happened then.


Exactly the way I see things!

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Me too. miles


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It doesn't take much research to find out what those Ukrainian slaves really earned. Thousand died of starvation and disease working in those factories. The survivors returned home after the war only to be arrested by Stalin for 'collaborating' with the Nazis and were sent to Siberia where they died by the millions. As bad as Hitler was, Stalin was far worse.


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Originally Posted by UPhiker
Originally Posted by stevelyn
Originally Posted by UPhiker
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Sounds like they provided decent paying jobs to people who didn't want to work.

What does this even mean? Do you know what a "forced laborer" is?


"That was before my time, and we paid the forced labourers exactly as much as German workers and we treated them well."


Do you know what paid and treated well mean?

That's what she says... You still haven't answered my question--do you know what a forced laborer is? Why do you think they "didn't want to work"?



Lighten up. It was a smartass post.


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Originally Posted by stevelyn
Sounds like they provided decent paying jobs to people who didn't want to work.

They wouldn't have had to pay them anything and could have shot them all or starved them to death with no repercussions. I'd say they went far beyond what most in those times and in that country did.


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A clear case of Drapetomania.




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WGAFF?

You should. History will repeat itself if we aren't diligent. Look at the socialists in the US today wanting us to return to the glorious Stalin era.


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Good candidate for a kick in the crotch. smile


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A clear case of Drapetomania.




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Originally Posted by JamesJr
I probably see this somewhat differently than some of you do, but I don't see as anyone living today, has to apologize for something that happened
before they were born. My ancestors owned slaves, that was over a 150 years ago. Big deal, as it doesn't bother me in the least that they did. That was then,
this is now. There is no way that I can go back and change anything my ancestors may have done, besides it was legal for them to own those slaves.

Having said that, I'm not condoning slavery or the forced labor that occurred in WW2, but apologizing it for it today changes absolutely nothing that happened then.


Slavery as we know, has been around for thousands of years and was accepted as normal practice,
in numerous cultures and societies across the globe.

And lets not forget that slave can also simply mean lowly servant... Our modern world still has a broad culture
or practice of having those 'lower class types' to do the more menial or drudgery low pay tasks that slaves were once
commonly tasked with.

but for some reason there are those select groups today who will never let go of the past, they for some reason get
pleasure from re-opening old wounds to garner sympathy and support for their victimhood status. ..they will drag up
anything from biblical enslavement of the Israelites to forced labor at a WW2 German biscuit factory.

Yet it would be considered unreasonable to ask todays jews to apologize for the crowd of jews that vehemently shouted/demanded
the execution of an innocent man called Jesus.


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