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I have 3 of the original A Bolts in 06, 300 Win and 338 Win...
accurate, never any issues and have always been very accurate...
bought them somewhere in 1990 or the early 90s... so I've had them a while...
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Never been much of a fan of the Browning rifles for whatever reasons but one experience especially soured me on them... Hunting in Africa I was paired up with another guy from this site. Great guy and we had a great time hunting together . His primary rifle was a Browning and we were out riding around in the back seat of the bakkie one day and a couple hares stopped in the road ahead of us, so the guide stopped the truck so we could get some shooting in. My partner leaned over the roll bar with his rifle and took a shot and yelped a bit. I looked over and when his .338 rifle recoiled the trigger guard came up against the rear bar of the roll cage and sheared off the trigger guard and trigger flush with the stock - with his finger still in the trigger guard. Not only was his rifle shot for the trip but his trigger finger was bleeding profusely all over him, the truck, the rifle, and killed his hunt for the day. All those pieces were just cheap pot metal. A decent steel trigger guard may have bent a bit but would have survived the ride. Lucky he had a back 30-06 along in a Winchester Model 70 to finish the trip with.... but he killed the heck out of that hare..... Bob
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my only complaint. Trigger could be better. Order a Mcarbo Spring for $20 before you decide on a Timney, I was really surprised at the improvement
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I have an older Medallion in 280. Never an issue and the most constantly accurate rifle I have ever owned.
ETA.. Not AK, but conditions here in Maine in November can be pretty brutal at times.
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I’ve had several, I don’t feel disappointed!!
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Over the years I’ve owned a BAR, several BLR’s and some A-Bolts and only one was finicky with ammo... even reloads (was my 358 BLR). It still managed around a 1.5”-2” groups at 100 yards and slayed hogs like nothing else. I’d say Browning triggers are all standard, but being in the military for a decade forced me to shoot crappy triggers to the point I can usually work any bolt trigger with zero issues.
I’d say don’t worry about it and just get used to it unless you wanna spend more cash.
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Browning xbolts are pretty common where I live in AK, I’ve never heard any complaints about them. Those xbolts always seemed like nice well made basic hunting rifles to me.
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As long as it is not used in Alaska they are fine. They tend to disintegrate above a certain parallel Let me tell my hunting partner that uses a Browning A-Bolt II 300 Win Mag that. He did start bear hunting and bought a Savage 116 .338 WM though, so maybe the Browning did disintegrate after all. I think my late father-in-law was on to something, He hunted with an A Bolt II and bought his boys' Rem. 700's. I did this exact same thing. Although I'm not hunting in Alaska, I'm in south Louisiana and Texas hunting. My Browning A-Bolt II Medallion 7mm Rem Mag is the Queen of my safe. Got it a long time ago when the A-Bolt II first came out with the Boss system. I was probably 15 or so and have been shooting it since. The Boss was stupid loud co I put the CR Boss on. But with a magnum barrel and a Boss, the Barrel was damn near 27" long. Made it tuff for Tower stand hunting getting it in and out of some of our smaller tower windows. Thus I had a Rem 700 made in .308 with a 20" and love it as well. Kick is much less, which is understandable, and shorter barrel sure makes it easy where I hunt. Rem vs Browning down here in Louisiana, at least where I'm from, is a chevy vs ford debate. If my custom built Rem 700 had a removable clip like my A-bolt II, then I'd have the best of both worlds. I like the clip design of the A-bolt II. No detachable mag sticking out the bottom, just clean floor plate. The main reason I bought my 2 boys Rem 700's was the safety feature. The A-bolt II has the bolt lock feature and has to be placed on fire to remove the chambered round. Of course my boys ( now are much much older ) are and have been well taught to point a loaded weapon away from anyone when unloading. But there are times when they go hunting with others and well basically, I'm a father and get nervous. Thus the Rem 700 allows you to unload with the safety on. There still can be issues and accidents, but it gives me a little peace of mind. Back to my A-bolt, I have just recently removed the boss system completely and have had a thread protector made for it. Thus bringing my total "original" barrel length back to 24". Haven't shot it yet,b but plan to re-glass it and get it dialed back in. It is and always will be the "Queen" of my safe.
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My BARs are not accurate, but the falling blocks are.
The A5 shotguns are great. The SA 22s are nice guns.
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My BARs are not accurate,
This is a respectful ? If/since your BARs aren't accurate....why is there more than 1 ? I'm not prejudiced...... never owned a BAR. Curious. Jerry
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i only have 3 Two 338Wm and one 300wm They went to the range once 11 years ago. Range report 2008 - 12- 11, sections c, b, d, e, f, g, and h: C) 300WM BAR 24" Type I made in 1969 in Belgium 2x7 Burris FF, sling, Limbsaver large pad unground 10.0 pounds as tested 168 gr BTHP Honady 168 gr moly 77 gr H4350, 3.34" 3167 fps [fouling shot with moly paste in bore] 3220 3228 3174 0.7" 3 shot group at 50y
D) 338WM BAR [dark stock] Type I 24" made in Belgium assembled in Portugal in 1990, Vari II 2x7x32, Limbsaver large pad unground 9.25 pounds as tested 250 gr Nosler Gold Partion, moly 69 gr H4350, 3.34" 2645 fps 2599 2645 3.5" 3 shot group at 50y
E) 338WM BAR [dark stock] Type I 24" made in Belgium assembled in Portugal in 1990, Vari II 2x7x32, Limbsaver large pad unground 9.25 pounds as tested 250 gr Nosler Gold Partion, moly 69 gr H4350, 3.34" 2604 fps 2640 2629 0.97" 3 shot group at 50y
F) 338WM BAR [light stock] Type I 24" made in 1969 in Belgium, 4X Redfield TV eyepiece, sling, Limbsaver large pad unground 9.5 pounds as tested 250 gr Nosler Gold Partion, moly 69 gr H4350, 3.34" 2594 fps miss target 2578 miss target 2588 2583 2578 2.0" 3 shot group at 50y that was 20" to the right, then corrected scope.
G) 338WM BAR [light stock] Type I 24" made in 1969 in Belgium, 4X Redfield TV eyepiece, sling, Limbsaver large pad unground 9.5 pounds as tested 250 gr Nosler Gold Partion, moly 69 gr H4350, 3.34" 2588 XXXX too dark for chrono to trigger 2594 2.0" 3 shot group that was 20" to the right, then corrected scope.
H) 300WM BAR 24" Type I made in 1969 in Belgium 2x7 Burris FF, sling, Limbsaver large pad unground 10.0 pounds as tested 168 gr BTHP Honady 168 gr moly 77 gr H4350, 3.34" Chrono between bench and 50yard target, not 100 yard target. 2.0" 3 shot group at 100y
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I shoot the Hornady Superformance 225 Grain SST’s in mine and It shoots better than I can shoot. The reduction in recoil with my BAR being semi is nice when shooting the .338 Win Mag.
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Given their price point,they are easily the WORST schit going.
hint...................
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Given their price point,they are easily the WORST schit going.
hint................... Quien Sabe? Custom Browning Micro-Medallion, 7mm-08 GWB
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I didn't realize after the FN and SAKO based Safari's that they made a rifle...…….. MB
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Given their price point,they are easily the WORST schit going.
hint................... Browning Hell's Canyon Speed, 26 Nosler My only shot was with him facing me. The bullet caught him at the withers. He dropped, did not even paddle. When I turned. him over his pecker was laying in the dirt under his body. The 142 gr. Nosler LR Accubond penetrated from the shoulders and literally knocked his dick in the dirt! TFF, GWB
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Given their price point,they are easily the WORST schit going.
hint................... Don't think one critter out of dozen or so I've killed with this Browning complained a bit about the Brand or the Cost! ya! GWB
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I didn't realize after the FN and SAKO based Safari's that they made a rifle...…….. MB Think so! Brownimg High Wall Safari, 375 H&H Browning High Wall, 45-70 Leastwise, Browning is stamped on the Barrel ya! GWB
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a bit of Carbon Fiber Browning, 270 WSM IIRC, 150 Gr. Bergers @ 200 are a little to frangible for my tastes, ya! GWB
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