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Everest is the highest and certainly very dangerous, but there are plenty of others more dangerous. I've never been into that type of climbing.
I read about another mountain in that area with a 3000' shear face. It took 2 days to get up it in the best of conditions. In the article I read, there were 2 teams climbing it at the same time, Americans and Germans. They were all about 1/2 way up when a nasty cold front came in. The Americans went back down. The Germans bedded down for the night in hammocks. It got super cold and that night the Germans all froze to death.
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i'd rather go hunt cape buff or grizzly with a bow
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I have no interest in Mt. Everest. No big sheep. No big mulies. Not even a dang goat or ibex. I see no point and rest my case. Where I land as well.
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I seen a movie where the guy lived in school bus and played with bears, then one day they ate him. Bus - McCandless Bear - Treadwell
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It's an impressive mountain and this is the way I'd like to see it...from a much lower viewpoint.
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I’d love to climb Everest! But not under the conditions that exist today. Narrow windows of good conditions driving all the teams to try and summit at the same time. If I were to fail on my own account that’s one thing. But to die because I was in extremis and couldn’t get down because of the lines would be no bueno. And many are in extremis because of the delays getting up.
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He's still up there. He left a wife and two kids. A great place to chill if nothing else. At least they died doing what they loved. One died in a traffic jam, Ive never known anyone who likes traffic jams. Its probably more appropriate to say she died in 'peak' hour ..
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"Summit" is one of those nouns turned into a verb that annoys me.
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"Summit" is one of those nouns turned into a verb that annoys me.
You'd better get used to being annoyed because it's become common usage these days. That's the way it is, you can't change it, so there's no sense in getting ulcers over it.
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At least I died doing what I looooooooooooooooooo................
and a minute later.......................oooooooooooooooove SPLAT!
The fall wasn’t as bad as the landing. DF
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"Summit" is one of those nouns turned into a verb that annoys me.
You'd better get used to being annoyed because it's become common usage these days. Very true. So common that I don't even blink an eye at the poor grammar any more.
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Everest is the highest and certainly very dangerous, but there are plenty of others more dangerous. . The marketing concerning Everest is very powerful in peoples minds, I knew a woman who did Everest twice, but died on another much less talked about 8000 + m peak. The sad thing about Everest is the amount of people that increase the danger, ie; its not just man against the mountain. IIRC, Thing she said about Everest, ..."Going up is optional , coming down is mandatory'
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At least I died doing what I looooooooooooooooooo................
and a minute later.......................oooooooooooooooove SPLAT!
The fall wasn’t as bad as the landing. DF Dying doing what you love, eh? We have a 480' bridge here with legal BASE jumping. A couple years ago, a 70+ guy came up with a really great stunt. He had an assistant who was going to light his chute on fire. Then he'd jump, release the burning chute, and pop his good chute. Didn't work as planned. The assistant sprayed the chute with some kind of propellant but it also got on the jumper. When they lit the chute, the flames jumped to the man and he went off the bridge in a ball of fire. He didn't release the burning chute. He just fell. The flames likely would have burned the lines on his good chute anyway.
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I've climbed several 14000' peaks here in Colorado. I enjoyed it. I really like looking up the mtn from the hiway& saying I've been to the top of that one.
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Some people actually climb because they enjoy it. Many deride activities outside of their own experience,and enjoy it.
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The climbers who want the maximum difficulty should go to K2 if they want to really accomplish something that other climbers can't do. It is much more difficult to climb and they don't call it the "killer mountain" for nothing. No long lines there.
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You don't have to travel halfway around the planet to die on a mountain: Mt. McKinley, Alaska, summer of 1967 - the Wilcox Expedition. Seven members reached the top but were caught in a wicked storm on the way down. Never found, they're still up there. I bought the book, "The Hall of the Mountain King", by survivor Howard Snyder, in 1975 and it still resides in my book case.
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3 more died up there yesterday. That's 7 for the WEEK. Nepal has issued 400 permits (at $11k each) for this season. There's a big traffic jam at 26k feet and people have to wait for hours in what's called the Death Zone. One of yesterday's casualties was stuck up there for 12 hrs and was exhausted in the thin air. Apparently, they get exhausted climbing up and they can't take the long waits in the thin air to get back down.
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Some people actually climb because they enjoy it. Many deride activities outside of their own experience,and enjoy it.
mike r Agreed.
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The climbers who want the maximum difficulty should go to K2 if they want to really accomplish something that other climbers can't do. It is much more difficult to climb and they don't call it the "killer mountain" for nothing. No long lines there. Or, perhaps even moreso with Annapurna and Nanga Parbat.
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