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A?? A forum is that you Forum and Talk without thought there would be no FORUM and with people like you There DEFF would be no Forums! Do you have a Ruger Rigby?>>> I think NOT >>you have just come to BITCH!! Enjoy your sad LIFE!


Butch(er) has been doing this for over 10-years, on every firearms forum there is. He is a miserable old Texass blowhard that isn't happy unless he is trying to put someone else down - you would think that with all the toys and money he brags about having, he would be out doing something with them instead of being an internet forum a-hole.

Just ignore him and he will go away.


Don't know either Ranting or Butch personally. But from their posts I can deduce that Butch is a gentlemen who likes fine custom firearms. I have never known him to brag (except about his grandson). Ranting has chosen an apt handle. He rants nonsensical drivel. A screw may be loose? By interjecting into this thread and unwarrantly attacking Butch, acting all childish, siding with Ranting, causes me to question your maturity and sanity.



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Originally Posted by Ranting
A?? A forum is that you Forum and Talk without thought there would be no FORUM and with people like you There DEFF would be no Forums! Do you have a Ruger Rigby?>>> I think NOT >>you have just come to BITCH!! Enjoy your sad LIFE!


Butch(er) has been doing this for over 10-years, on every firearms forum there is. He is a miserable old Texass blowhard that isn't happy unless he is trying to put someone else down - you would think that with all the toys and money he brags about having, he would be out doing something with them instead of being an internet forum a-hole.

Just ignore him and he will go away.


Don't know either Ranting or Butch personally. But from their posts I can deduce that Butch is a gentlemen who likes fine custom firearms. I have never known him to brag (except about his grandson). Ranting has chosen an apt handle. He rants nonsensical drivel. A screw may be loose? By interjecting into this thread and unwarrantly attacking Butch, acting all childish, siding with Ranting, causes me to question your maturity and sanity.



Agreed, but I didn't even consider Butch to be bragging when he was talking about his grandson who was kicking for WVU a few years ago. That was pretty much justifiable pride to me. Ranting, please consider leaving us alone until you've grown up enough to contribute here without being so annoying.


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Originally Posted by Ranting
Ruger M77 Mk II Magnum Express Rifle .416 Rigby, I got the first one without the barrel band , I never killed anything with it and find it a bit HEV! but off the bench it seems to shoot very well! Anyone out there that shot this RIFLE and your thoughts.


I have one, but with the barrel band. It really over penetrates prairie dogs - the biggest and the meanest game I've shot with it. I'm not sure about expansion either, since so far I have not found bullets.

The rifle handles well. I had a Ruger 77 in 7mm Rem Mag that the felt recoil was higher - until I restocked it. But then I don't have a scope on my 416. I've tried a couple of loads 400 grain solids and a mono bullet, I think around 320 grain. Both very accurate or as accurate as I can shoot with metal sights.

Since I doubt that I'll make it to Africa, I will sell it at the Tulsa Gun show. If anyone is interested it has shot less than 40 rounds. It looks like new. Dies, brass 20 fired and 20 unfired, and bullets come with it along with the original box, rings etc..

$2,100 firm! (Plus shipping and insurance)

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. . . The M77 Mark II RSM (Ruger Safari Magnum) was a $1,200 gun new. It was also offered in express chambers such as 270 Win., 7mm Rem Mag, 30-06, 300 Win Mag and 338 Win Mag. Most of the cost on the rifles was for the finer circassian walnut stock. 20 years ago or so they were popular in Africa for most going abroad for hunting buffalo due to being inexpensive. The 375 H&H, 416 Rigby, 458 Win Mag and 458 Lott may not be as valuable today as the express chambers, especially 270 Win or 30-06 as they were limited in production. The larger bore RSM today sells for $1,800-$2,600 depending on condition. The express chambers can go for $2,500-$3,200 if in great condition. . . .


Yep. I own one in .416 Rigby with the circassian walnut. Heck of a rifle. Haven't shot it against dangerous game, but I would feel well armed against a charging lion.





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He'll probably need 3 or 4 extra pages to complete that form...

Good bud shot a 41" buff in Zim with his RSM .416 Rigby. The PH liked the gun, said it was too heavy. The PH packed a .416 Rem in a PF M-70. Now how uncool can one get... blush

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400 gr TSX.

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Been thinking about taking a .460 Wby case (or .416/.378 Wby) and cutting it to 2.5" and then necking it to .416" or even as small as .338" and up to .475".

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Originally Posted by elkhunternm
Been thinking about taking a .460 Wby case (or .416/.378 Wby) and cutting it to 2.5" and then necking it to .416" or even as small as .338" and up to .475".


So a belted Nosler/Norma?

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I like the idea of the fat 2.5” cases. Have been a fan for awhile.

Just thought going with the Norma case would save some steps. Lapua is making brass for it now to, which isn’t a bad thing.

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Could use any of the .378 Wby based cartridges. I like the idea of shortening the .460 Wby (or .416 Wby) down to 2.5" and form it to .416. It should be easy just use a pipe cutter and cut to length and then size the case.

Something like this.....
https://www.lowes.com/pd/BrassCraft-1-4-in-to-1-1-8-in-Copper-Tube-Cutter/999904025


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Originally Posted by Bugger
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Ruger M77 Mk II Magnum Express Rifle .416 Rigby, I got the first one without the barrel band , I never killed anything with it and find it a bit HEV! but off the bench it seems to shoot very well! Anyone out there that shot this RIFLE and your thoughts.


I have one, but with the barrel band. It really over penetrates prairie dogs - the biggest and the meanest game I've shot with it. I'm not sure about expansion either, since so far I have not found bullets.

The rifle handles well. I had a Ruger 77 in 7mm Rem Mag that the felt recoil was higher - until I restocked it. But then I don't have a scope on my 416. I've tried a couple of loads 400 grain solids and a mono bullet, I think around 320 grain. Both very accurate or as accurate as I can shoot with metal sights.

Since I doubt that I'll make it to Africa, I will sell it at the Tulsa Gun show. If anyone is interested it has shot less than 40 rounds. It looks like new. Dies, brass 20 fired and 20 unfired, and bullets come with it along with the original box, rings etc..

$2,100 firm! (Plus shipping and insurance)


It didn't sell in Tulsa. I think the biggest game I'll be hunting is probably Moose and I think the 416 won't be needed.
Lots of solids and mono bullets, 20 unfired cases and 20 fired cases, dies, everything that came from the factory in the factory box.


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