24hourcampfire.com
24hourcampfire.com
Previous Thread
Next Thread
Print Thread
Hop To
Page 2 of 3 1 2 3
Joined: Apr 2011
Posts: 68,915
Campfire Kahuna
Offline
Campfire Kahuna
Joined: Apr 2011
Posts: 68,915
Originally Posted by Birdwatcher
Originally Posted by RiverRider
Good job Roger.


+1


+100


"Allways speak the truth and you will never have to remember what you said before..." Sam Houston
Texans, "We say Grace, We Say Mam, If You Don't Like it, We Don't Give a Damn!"

~Molɔ̀ːn Labé Skýla~
BP-B2

Joined: Sep 2008
Posts: 7,320
Campfire Tracker
Offline
Campfire Tracker
Joined: Sep 2008
Posts: 7,320
Originally Posted by g5m
Anybody remember Kitty Genovese?


Yes.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_Kitty_Genovese

Quote
At approximately 2:30 a.m. on March 13, 1964, Genovese left the bar where she worked and began driving home in her red Fiat. While waiting for a traffic light to change on Hoover Avenue, she was spotted by Winston Moseley, who was sitting in his parked car. Genovese arrived home around 3:15 a.m. and parked her car in the Kew Gardens Long Island Rail Road station parking lot, about 100 feet (30 m) from her apartment's door, in an alleyway at the rear of the building.[21] As she walked toward the apartment complex, Moseley, who had followed her home, exited his vehicle, which he had parked at a corner bus stop on Austin Street. Armed with a hunting knife, he approached Genovese.[21]

Genovese ran toward the front of the building, and Moseley ran after her, overtook her, and stabbed her twice in the back. Genovese screamed, "Oh my God, he stabbed me! Help me!" Several neighbors heard her cry, but only a few of them recognized the sound as a cry for help. When Robert Mozer, one of the neighbors, shouted at the attacker, "Let that girl alone!"[22] Moseley ran away and Genovese slowly made her way toward the rear entrance of the building,[23] seriously injured and out of view of any witnesses.[22]

Witnesses saw Moseley enter his car, drive away, and return ten minutes later. Shadowing his face with a wide-brimmed hat, he systematically searched the parking lot, the train station, and an apartment complex, eventually finding Genovese, who was barely conscious and lying in a hallway at the back of the building, where a locked door had prevented her from going inside.[11] Out of view of the street and of those who may have heard or seen any sign of the initial attack, Moseley stabbed Genovese several more times before raping her, stealing $49 from her, and running away again.[22] The attacks spanned approximately half an hour, and knife wounds in Genovese's hands suggested that she attempted to defend herself from him. A neighbor, Sophia Farrar, found her shortly after and held her in her arms.[24]

Records of the earliest calls to police are unclear and were not given a high priority; the incident occurred four years before New York City implemented the 911 emergency call system.[25] One witness said his father called the police after the initial attack and reported that a woman was "beat up, but got up and was staggering around".[26] A few minutes after the final attack, another witness, Karl Ross, called the police, who arrived at the scene within minutes of his call. Genovese was picked up by an ambulance at 4:15 a.m., and died en route to the hospital. She was buried on March 16, 1964, in Lakeview Cemetery in New Canaan, Connecticut.[27]

Last edited by Squidge; 05/24/19.

Remember why, specifically, the Bill of Rights was written...remember its purpose. It was written to limit the power of government over the individual.

There is no believing a liar, even when he speaks the truth.
Joined: Dec 2007
Posts: 10,258
Campfire Outfitter
Offline
Campfire Outfitter
Joined: Dec 2007
Posts: 10,258
Originally Posted by g5m
Anybody remember Kitty Genovese?


Long time ago, she screamed and screamed as I remember while being stabbed to death IIRC.


Ed

A person who asks a question is a fool for 5 minutes the person who never asks is a fool forever.

The worst slaves are those that put the chains on themselves.
Joined: Jun 2008
Posts: 664
Q
Campfire Regular
OP Offline
Campfire Regular
Q
Joined: Jun 2008
Posts: 664
Originally Posted by Squidge
Originally Posted by g5m
Anybody remember Kitty Genovese?


Yes.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_Kitty_Genovese

Quote
At approximately 2:30 a.m. on March 13, 1964, Genovese left the bar where she worked and began driving home in her red Fiat. While waiting for a traffic light to change on Hoover Avenue, she was spotted by Winston Moseley, who was sitting in his parked car. Genovese arrived home around 3:15 a.m. and parked her car in the Kew Gardens Long Island Rail Road station parking lot, about 100 feet (30 m) from her apartment's door, in an alleyway at the rear of the building.[21] As she walked toward the apartment complex, Moseley, who had followed her home, exited his vehicle, which he had parked at a corner bus stop on Austin Street. Armed with a hunting knife, he approached Genovese.[21]

Genovese ran toward the front of the building, and Moseley ran after her, overtook her, and stabbed her twice in the back. Genovese screamed, "Oh my God, he stabbed me! Help me!" Several neighbors heard her cry, but only a few of them recognized the sound as a cry for help. When Robert Mozer, one of the neighbors, shouted at the attacker, "Let that girl alone!"[22] Moseley ran away and Genovese slowly made her way toward the rear entrance of the building,[23] seriously injured and out of view of any witnesses.[22]

Witnesses saw Moseley enter his car, drive away, and return ten minutes later. Shadowing his face with a wide-brimmed hat, he systematically searched the parking lot, the train station, and an apartment complex, eventually finding Genovese, who was barely conscious and lying in a hallway at the back of the building, where a locked door had prevented her from going inside.[11] Out of view of the street and of those who may have heard or seen any sign of the initial attack, Moseley stabbed Genovese several more times before raping her, stealing $49 from her, and running away again.[22] The attacks spanned approximately half an hour, and knife wounds in Genovese's hands suggested that she attempted to defend herself from him. A neighbor, Sophia Farrar, found her shortly after and held her in her arms.[24]

Records of the earliest calls to police are unclear and were not given a high priority; the incident occurred four years before New York City implemented the 911 emergency call system.[25] One witness said his father called the police after the initial attack and reported that a woman was "beat up, but got up and was staggering around".[26] A few minutes after the final attack, another witness, Karl Ross, called the police, who arrived at the scene within minutes of his call. Genovese was picked up by an ambulance at 4:15 a.m., and died en route to the hospital. She was buried on March 16, 1964, in Lakeview Cemetery in New Canaan, Connecticut.[27]


Ahhh OK

That makes what happened to the grandmother at HEB ok...


Like Sam Houston, I will vote for what is best for ME in 2020.
Texans read their Bibles to find what they want it to say, and are blind to what it actually says...
Joined: Jun 2002
Posts: 130,940
T
Campfire Sage
Offline
Campfire Sage
T
Joined: Jun 2002
Posts: 130,940
Originally Posted by Quick_Karl
Caught on camera: Man punches 88-year-old woman outside of H-E-B

https://www.khou.com/article/news/c...285-6daee291-bb88-4b2d-b444-28e15690ad14

I just cannot comprehend people saw his and just stood there and let the guy walk away. Who could be like that?

Saw it in Colin Flaherty's video on it. I was amazed that a bunch of white guys stood around while he moseyed on away. Why didn't they grab him and beat him into submission??

IC B2

Joined: Jun 2002
Posts: 130,940
T
Campfire Sage
Offline
Campfire Sage
T
Joined: Jun 2002
Posts: 130,940
Originally Posted by Tom264
Yeah.
That’s crazy.
People are afraid to get involved these days.

Afraid of being arrested for a hate crime.

Joined: Jun 2008
Posts: 664
Q
Campfire Regular
OP Offline
Campfire Regular
Q
Joined: Jun 2008
Posts: 664
Originally Posted by The_Real_Hawkeye
Originally Posted by Quick_Karl
Caught on camera: Man punches 88-year-old woman outside of H-E-B

https://www.khou.com/article/news/c...285-6daee291-bb88-4b2d-b444-28e15690ad14

I just cannot comprehend people saw his and just stood there and let the guy walk away. Who could be like that?

Saw it in Colin Flaherty's video on it. I was amazed that a bunch of white guys stood around while he moseyed on away. Why didn't they grab him and beat him into submission??


Or stand in front of him blocking his get-away while calling 911...

Follow him while talking to 911...

AT LEAST STICK A CELL PHONE CAM IN HIS FACE

Geez


Like Sam Houston, I will vote for what is best for ME in 2020.
Texans read their Bibles to find what they want it to say, and are blind to what it actually says...
Joined: Dec 2004
Posts: 14,466
Campfire Outfitter
Offline
Campfire Outfitter
Joined: Dec 2004
Posts: 14,466
Originally Posted by Quick_Karl
Originally Posted by Squidge
Originally Posted by g5m
Anybody remember Kitty Genovese?


Yes.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_Kitty_Genovese

Quote
At approximately 2:30 a.m. on March 13, 1964, Genovese left the bar where she worked and began driving home in her red Fiat. While waiting for a traffic light to change on Hoover Avenue, she was spotted by Winston Moseley, who was sitting in his parked car. Genovese arrived home around 3:15 a.m. and parked her car in the Kew Gardens Long Island Rail Road station parking lot, about 100 feet (30 m) from her apartment's door, in an alleyway at the rear of the building.[21] As she walked toward the apartment complex, Moseley, who had followed her home, exited his vehicle, which he had parked at a corner bus stop on Austin Street. Armed with a hunting knife, he approached Genovese.[21]

Genovese ran toward the front of the building, and Moseley ran after her, overtook her, and stabbed her twice in the back. Genovese screamed, "Oh my God, he stabbed me! Help me!" Several neighbors heard her cry, but only a few of them recognized the sound as a cry for help. When Robert Mozer, one of the neighbors, shouted at the attacker, "Let that girl alone!"[22] Moseley ran away and Genovese slowly made her way toward the rear entrance of the building,[23] seriously injured and out of view of any witnesses.[22]

Witnesses saw Moseley enter his car, drive away, and return ten minutes later. Shadowing his face with a wide-brimmed hat, he systematically searched the parking lot, the train station, and an apartment complex, eventually finding Genovese, who was barely conscious and lying in a hallway at the back of the building, where a locked door had prevented her from going inside.[11] Out of view of the street and of those who may have heard or seen any sign of the initial attack, Moseley stabbed Genovese several more times before raping her, stealing $49 from her, and running away again.[22] The attacks spanned approximately half an hour, and knife wounds in Genovese's hands suggested that she attempted to defend herself from him. A neighbor, Sophia Farrar, found her shortly after and held her in her arms.[24]

Records of the earliest calls to police are unclear and were not given a high priority; the incident occurred four years before New York City implemented the 911 emergency call system.[25] One witness said his father called the police after the initial attack and reported that a woman was "beat up, but got up and was staggering around".[26] A few minutes after the final attack, another witness, Karl Ross, called the police, who arrived at the scene within minutes of his call. Genovese was picked up by an ambulance at 4:15 a.m., and died en route to the hospital. She was buried on March 16, 1964, in Lakeview Cemetery in New Canaan, Connecticut.[27]


Ahhh OK

That makes what happened to the grandmother at HEB ok...



Did anyone trivialize the old lady getting sucker-punched at HEB? What did I miss?


Don't be the darkness.

America will perish while those who should be standing guard are satisfying their lusts.


Joined: Jun 2008
Posts: 664
Q
Campfire Regular
OP Offline
Campfire Regular
Q
Joined: Jun 2008
Posts: 664
Originally Posted by The_Real_Hawkeye
Originally Posted by Quick_Karl
Caught on camera: Man punches 88-year-old woman outside of H-E-B

https://www.khou.com/article/news/c...285-6daee291-bb88-4b2d-b444-28e15690ad14

I just cannot comprehend people saw his and just stood there and let the guy walk away. Who could be like that?

Saw it in Colin Flaherty's video on it. I was amazed that a bunch of white guys stood around while he moseyed on away.


I couldn't and still can't believe my eyes.


Like Sam Houston, I will vote for what is best for ME in 2020.
Texans read their Bibles to find what they want it to say, and are blind to what it actually says...
Joined: Jun 2002
Posts: 130,940
T
Campfire Sage
Offline
Campfire Sage
T
Joined: Jun 2002
Posts: 130,940
Originally Posted by Quick_Karl
Or stand in front of him blocking his get-away while calling 911...
My assumption was that this would have been resisted by him, thus resulting in a take/beat down necessity.

IC B3

Joined: Aug 2005
Posts: 28,179
J
Campfire Ranger
Offline
Campfire Ranger
J
Joined: Aug 2005
Posts: 28,179
HEB granny would've knocked QK's ass out.


It is irrelevant what you think. What matters is the TRUTH.
Joined: Aug 2007
Posts: 19,495
G
g5m Offline
Campfire Ranger
Offline
Campfire Ranger
G
Joined: Aug 2007
Posts: 19,495
Originally Posted by Quick_Karl
Originally Posted by Squidge
Originally Posted by g5m
Anybody remember Kitty Genovese?


Yes.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_Kitty_Genovese

Quote
At approximately 2:30 a.m. on March 13, 1964, Genovese left the bar where she worked and began driving home in her red Fiat. While waiting for a traffic light to change on Hoover Avenue, she was spotted by Winston Moseley, who was sitting in his parked car. Genovese arrived home around 3:15 a.m. and parked her car in the Kew Gardens Long Island Rail Road station parking lot, about 100 feet (30 m) from her apartment's door, in an alleyway at the rear of the building.[21] As she walked toward the apartment complex, Moseley, who had followed her home, exited his vehicle, which he had parked at a corner bus stop on Austin Street. Armed with a hunting knife, he approached Genovese.[21]

Genovese ran toward the front of the building, and Moseley ran after her, overtook her, and stabbed her twice in the back. Genovese screamed, "Oh my God, he stabbed me! Help me!" Several neighbors heard her cry, but only a few of them recognized the sound as a cry for help. When Robert Mozer, one of the neighbors, shouted at the attacker, "Let that girl alone!"[22] Moseley ran away and Genovese slowly made her way toward the rear entrance of the building,[23] seriously injured and out of view of any witnesses.[22]

Witnesses saw Moseley enter his car, drive away, and return ten minutes later. Shadowing his face with a wide-brimmed hat, he systematically searched the parking lot, the train station, and an apartment complex, eventually finding Genovese, who was barely conscious and lying in a hallway at the back of the building, where a locked door had prevented her from going inside.[11] Out of view of the street and of those who may have heard or seen any sign of the initial attack, Moseley stabbed Genovese several more times before raping her, stealing $49 from her, and running away again.[22] The attacks spanned approximately half an hour, and knife wounds in Genovese's hands suggested that she attempted to defend herself from him. A neighbor, Sophia Farrar, found her shortly after and held her in her arms.[24]

Records of the earliest calls to police are unclear and were not given a high priority; the incident occurred four years before New York City implemented the 911 emergency call system.[25] One witness said his father called the police after the initial attack and reported that a woman was "beat up, but got up and was staggering around".[26] A few minutes after the final attack, another witness, Karl Ross, called the police, who arrived at the scene within minutes of his call. Genovese was picked up by an ambulance at 4:15 a.m., and died en route to the hospital. She was buried on March 16, 1964, in Lakeview Cemetery in New Canaan, Connecticut.[27]


Ahhh OK

That makes what happened to the grandmother at HEB ok...


In response to your comment:

"I just cannot comprehend people saw his and just stood there and let the guy walk away. Who could be like that?"

Human behavior. And, not right, but not new.


Retired cat herder.


Joined: Dec 2005
Posts: 7,009
Campfire Tracker
Offline
Campfire Tracker
Joined: Dec 2005
Posts: 7,009
[Linked Image]

[Linked Image]

That's Peter Mensah!


$$$ TRUMP AT THE PUMP 2024 $$$
Joined: Aug 2002
Posts: 37,744
Campfire 'Bwana
Online Content
Campfire 'Bwana
Joined: Aug 2002
Posts: 37,744
Originally Posted by sawbuck
That's Peter Mensah!



Mensah? That’s a fine old Ashanti name.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Mensah


"...if the gentlemen of Virginia shall send us a dozen of their sons, we would take great care in their education, instruct them in all we know, and make men of them." Canasatego 1744
Joined: Dec 2013
Posts: 12,702
Campfire Outfitter
Offline
Campfire Outfitter
Joined: Dec 2013
Posts: 12,702
Remember the misery inflicted on George Zimmerman for killing a child, who in reality was a vicious thug? Kind of makes folks leery about getting involved. That Trayvon character I am sure did look out of place and suspicious. He sneaked up on Zimmerman and tried the knockout game and failed. Zimmerman could be in jail for 30 years if not for excellent legal representation. People tend to try to stay out of other folks issues considering they could be bankrupted not to mention imprisoned or killed for intervening.


Patriotism (and religion) is the last refuge of a scoundrel.

Jesus: "Take heed that no man deceive you."
Joined: Jun 2002
Posts: 130,940
T
Campfire Sage
Offline
Campfire Sage
T
Joined: Jun 2002
Posts: 130,940
Originally Posted by Hastings
Remember the misery inflicted on George Zimmerman for killing a child, who in reality was a vicious thug? Kind of makes folks leery about getting involved. That Trayvon character I am sure did look out of place and suspicious. He sneaked up on Zimmerman and tried the knockout game and failed. Zimmerman could be in jail for 30 years if not for excellent legal representation. People tend to try to stay out of other folks issues considering they could be bankrupted not to mention imprisoned or killed for intervening.

And that's likely by design.

Joined: Jun 2008
Posts: 664
Q
Campfire Regular
OP Offline
Campfire Regular
Q
Joined: Jun 2008
Posts: 664
Let's pretend that killing the guy wouldn't be a viable option based on what we have been able to see in the video, until he pulls out a gun or a knife...


Like Sam Houston, I will vote for what is best for ME in 2020.
Texans read their Bibles to find what they want it to say, and are blind to what it actually says...
Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 24,851
T
Campfire Ranger
Offline
Campfire Ranger
T
Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 24,851
I think the guys standing around should have at least pounded him into a little bloody pulp
But that’s just me.


.
Joined: Aug 2007
Posts: 19,495
G
g5m Offline
Campfire Ranger
Offline
Campfire Ranger
G
Joined: Aug 2007
Posts: 19,495
Originally Posted by Tom264
I think the guys standing around should have at least pounded him into a little bloody pulp
But that’s just me.


That or more would probably have happened in a more civilized time. Also, did the 88 year old woman survive?


Retired cat herder.


Joined: Nov 2007
Posts: 46,898
Campfire 'Bwana
Offline
Campfire 'Bwana
Joined: Nov 2007
Posts: 46,898
In Texas you can use deadly force to stop an attack on another person, i think this situation would qualify.


God bless Texas-----------------------
Old 300
I will remain what i am until the day I die- A HUNTER......Sitting Bull
Its not how you pick the booger..
but where you put it !!
Roger V Hunter
Page 2 of 3 1 2 3

Moderated by  RickBin 

Link Copied to Clipboard
YB23

Who's Online Now
360 members (1lesfox, 160user, 257 mag, 1lessdog, 12344mag, 01Foreman400, 40 invisible), 2,047 guests, and 904 robots.
Key: Admin, Global Mod, Mod
Forum Statistics
Forums81
Topics1,187,593
Posts18,397,970
Members73,815
Most Online11,491
Jul 7th, 2023


 







Fish & Game Departments | Solunar Tables | Mission Statement | Privacy Policy | Contact Us | DMCA
Hunting | Fishing | Camping | Backpacking | Reloading | Campfire Forums | Gear Shop
Copyright © 2000-2024 24hourcampfire.com, Inc. All Rights Reserved.
Powered by UBB.threads™ PHP Forum Software 7.7.5
(Release build 20201027)
Responsive Width:

PHP: 7.3.33 Page Time: 0.158s Queries: 14 (0.003s) Memory: 0.9153 MB (Peak: 1.0824 MB) Data Comp: Zlib Server Time: 2024-03-28 11:15:25 UTC
Valid HTML 5 and Valid CSS