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Originally Posted by Coyote_Hunter

The 100g TTSX I use in my .257 Roberts had an advertised B.C. of .357. Antelope don't know that and drop anyway.


What powder do you use with 100 gr TTSX ? Velocity?


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The 100g TTSX I use in my .257 Roberts had an advertised B.C. of .357. Antelope don't know that and drop anyway.


What powder do you use with 100 gr TTSX ? Velocity?


It isn't just the powder. WW +P brass and loads. CCI 200 primer, 48.0g H4350, 100g TTSX, 3163 3233fps. Bear in mind my Roberts has a throat so long I often joke the bullets couldn't touch the lands with a stick. A shorter throat would probably increase pressure, requiring a lower powder charge. Brass life has been excellent and primers look normal, but I can't vouch for the safety of using this load in any other rifle.

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My Ruger .257 Roberts is a long action. As a result I can (and do) build some of my loads with COL too long to fit in a short-action magazine.

Corrected 100g TTSX velocity above. The 3163 fps I originally stated is for my 110g AB load, which uses 46.5g H4350. Dropped a line as I read across my reload spreadsheet to the velocity column.
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My 77 has a long throat also. I use Rem brass, 210 primers, and 47.0 gr of Hunter for 3,009 FPS .. thanks


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Originally Posted by Coyote_Hunter
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The 100g TTSX I use in my .257 Roberts had an advertised B.C. of .357. Antelope don't know that and drop anyway.


What powder do you use with 100 gr TTSX ? Velocity?


It isn't just the powder. WW +P brass and loads. CCI 200 primer, 48.0g H4350, 100g TTSX, 3163fps. Bear in mind my Roberts has a throat so long I often joke the bullets couldn't touch the lands with a stick. A shorter throat would probably increase pressure, requiring a lower powder charge. Brass life has been excellent and primers look normal, but I can't vouch for the safety of using this load in any other rifle.

H-100V is the velocity champ in the .257R. Not quite as temp stable as H-4350, but works for me.

This load for a LA 700, COAL is over the 2.8" max for SA box mag. Even at 2.9+" COAL, it's jumping .03". The Brux barrel is throated a bit long.

It's a WT and hog killer.

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H-100V is the velocity champ in the .257R. Not quite as temp stable as H-4350, but works for me.

This load for a LA 700, COAL is over the 2.8" max for SA box mag. Even at 2.9+" COAL, it's jumping .03". The Brux barrel is throated a bit long.

It's a WT and hog killer.

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Went back and edited my post for two things. The first was to specify my Ruger is a long action and several of my loads exceed SAAMI COL and are too long to fit in a standard short-action magazine.

The other was to correct the velocity for the 100g TTSX. Apparently I can't read across my reloading spreadsheet without dropping down a line. 3163fps is for my 110g AB load, which uses 46.5g H4350. The 100g TTSX uses 48.0g H4350 (at least I got that right) and velocity is 3233fps.

Don't recall what the jump is - and am out of town so can't look in my records - but it is long for all my loads.


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Originally Posted by Coyote_Hunter
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H-100V is the velocity champ in the .257R. Not quite as temp stable as H-4350, but works for me.

This load for a LA 700, COAL is over the 2.8" max for SA box mag. Even at 2.9+" COAL, it's jumping .03". The Brux barrel is throated a bit long.

It's a WT and hog killer.

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Went back and edited my post for two things. The first was to specify my Ruger is a long action and several of my loads exceed SAAMI COL and are too long to fit in a standard short-action magazine.

The other was to correct the velocity for the 100g TTSX. Apparently I can't read across my reloading spreadsheet without dropping down a line. 3163fps is for my 110g AB load, which uses 46.5g H4350. The 100g TTSX uses 48.0g H4350 (at least I got that right) and velocity is 3233fps.

Don't recall what the jump is - and am out of town so can't look in my records - but it is long for all my loads.


What's you experience with terminal performance?

Mine has been very good, quick kills.

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Pretty limited with the 100g TTSX, but prairie dogs, coyotes and antelope hate them.

Experience with 130's to 180's is more extensive with antelope, deer and elk. None recovered, right at 50% straight-down DRT and none have gone more than a few steps.

I've pretty much switched to 110g AB for the Roberts due to better B.C. and higher retained energy downrange. Still have both loads on the ammo shelf, though, and more 100g TTSX on the reload bench. Will continue to use both.


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Originally Posted by Coyote_Hunter
Pretty limited with the 100g TTSX, but prairie dogs, coyotes and antelope hate them.

Experience with 130's to 180's is more extensive with antelope, deer and elk. None recovered, right at 50% straight-down DRT and none have gone more than a few steps.

I've pretty much switched to 110g AB for the Roberts due to better B.C. and higher retained energy downrange. Still have both loads on the ammo shelf, though, and more 100g TTSX on the reload bench. Will continue to use both.

How do the 110 NAB and 100 TTSX compare regarding accuracy in your Roberts?

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Hey guys Never tried the 100TTSX in my Bobs. But the 80gr TTSX at 3400 FPS is very accurate and seems to kill well out to about 300. Any reason to believe that the 100gr would perform better?

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Originally Posted by Dirtfarmer
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How do the 110 NAB and 100 TTSX compare regarding accuracy in your Roberts?

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No notes in my reloading spreadsheet for the 100g TTSX. Here are the notes for the 110g AB:

1.15" for 46.0, .46.5, 47.0g H4350

Would have to dig up old targets for 100g TTSX but suspect it to be about the same as the AB.

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Originally Posted by southtexas
Hey guys Never tried the 100TTSX in my Bobs. But the 80gr TTSX at 3400 FPS is very accurate and seems to kill well out to about 300. Any reason to believe that the 100gr would perform better?

The 100 gr. .257 TTSX has a higher S.D.(.216), vs. the 80 gr TTSX (.173). May be OK at 3,400 fps.

BUT, out of my .240, an 80 gr TTSX with S.D of .194 at 3,600 fps, had suprisingly poor terminal performance on a WT doe. Huge blast effect on the chest wall, very little destruction inside the chest cavity, just a pencil thru. Deer ran 100 yds in the woods at night. Took a while to find her with flashlights.

And, the .243, 80 gr. TTSX has a better S.D. than the .257, 80 gr TTSX, (.173). Too fast with low S.D on deer sized game can be less than impressive, IMO. I went to 100 gr. NPT's in the .240 and have never looked back. No more 80 TTSX in that one.

The 100 TTSX at 3,260 fps out of my Roberts seems to transfer more destruction inside the animal with better terminal performance. Here's a link to my .257R project. It also did very well with the 115 NBT over 44 gr. H-4350. www.24hourcampfire.com/ubbthreads/ubbthreads.php/topics/10163944/5

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I wouldn’t trust anyone who didn’t trust an AccuBond. I’ve caught just as many TTSX as I have the ABs, not very many of either.

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All the hunters in our elk and deer gaggle shoot Accubonds, Partitions, and TTSX or TSX in .284 to .308 cal. except one recalcitrant who shoots 180 Core Lokts. Over the years it would be hard to count the game taken with those. Happy Trails


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I did have a friend that swore hard cast was the ticket for everything hand gun then get a mag of gold dots handed over in the heat of the moment. TSX is the LR equivalent of hardcast.


I’m pretty sure that guy learned a lesson that day. Some people’s friends..... 🙄


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I would like to regress to Rock Chucks observation of his .308 caliber Accubond experience.

The sectional density of a 308 bullet of similar weight as a 7 mm would be less, perhaps affecting frangebility.

Also a good friend of mine had an uncle who was a butcher. For some reason my buddy would always say his uncle the butcher claimed " nothing blood shots meat worse than a 30 06!"

As a side note there really ain't a hell of a lot of " steaks" to harvest on a front leg.......IMO.


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Originally Posted by Angus1895
I would like to regress to Rock Chucks observation of his .308 caliber Accubond experience.

The sectional density of a 308 bullet of similar weight as a 7 mm would be less, perhaps affecting frangebility.

Also a good friend of mine had an uncle who was a butcher. For some reason my buddy would always say his uncle the butcher claimed " nothing blood shots meat worse than a 30 06!"

As a side note there really ain't a hell of a lot of " steaks" to harvest on a front leg.......IMO.



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I’ve used the 160g AB on several elk at 3300+fps out of a STW. It kills reliably. While I prefer larger diameter and heavier bullets for elk, if it’s all I had I’d use it with confidence. I also use AB in 30-06 and 270wsm. They have partition like performance and are easy to get to shoot well I’m working on a 340wby load this summer and betting on the 225g AB.

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Originally Posted by elkaddict
I’ve used the 160g AB on several elk at 3300+fps out of a STW. It kills reliably. While I prefer larger diameter and heavier bullets for elk, if it’s all I had I’d use it with confidence. I also use AB in 30-06 and 270wsm. They have partition like performance and are easy to get to shoot well I’m working on a 340wby load this summer and betting on the 225g AB.


My experience with the 225g AB is they make big holes and punch through on a broadside. My 22" barreled .338WM launches them at a rather sedate 2742fps, which was more thn adequqte for my longest shot ever, 487 yards (broadside cow elk).

Should work in your Bee.


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No, but have killed a couple with a 165 AB from a 30-338 win mag, same case right? 3100fps, complete pass through on a grown cow at 319 yards. Hit a cow too far back when i was in a real hurry, not a pass through but a bump on the off side, she was 564 yards. They die

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