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1 more today. Tally at 11 climbers so far this season. Risk/reward. Hope it was worth it.


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I don't really care one way or another so it does not affect me, if someone else does then that is on them.


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Originally Posted by Paul_M
Originally Posted by alwaysoutdoors
The evening news just reported on it. Supposedly the local government is getting blamed for several hiking deaths because they issued so many permits to climb. Ummm.,, ok

There actually just might be some truth in that. Saw this pic on reddit.
200 people waiting in line to summit.
https://www.reddit.com/r/pics/comments/bs5mya/queue_of_200_people_at_the_top_of_mt_everest/




The picture looks like the line up to see Santa in A Christmas Story.

Is that Ralphie I see halfway up the line!!


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regodamndiculous activity and they got what they paid ($100k) for if you ask me but nobody did.


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I was a lot more impressed by the guy who climbed El Capitan in Yellowstone without ropes than I would be by 200 dummies standing in line on Everest.


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Originally Posted by IndyCA35
I was a lot more impressed by the guy who climbed El Capitan in Yellowstone without ropes than I would be by 200 dummies standing in line on Everest.

that would be Yosemite, and that was a much more impressive climb. Alex Honnold is his name !


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Gotta be a pretty nasty fugging trail
People schitting and pissing everywhere.

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At least their ain't no flies.....

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Originally Posted by centershot


I understand the appeal. But that is way too dangerous and expensive for me....



Everest has become highly romanticised and a 'trophy' achievement.
deaths can be apportioned largely to inexperience of both client and guides,(some clients don't even know how to put on a crampon)
although only A very small percentage attempt it without oxygen, their death rate is much higher.

Seven Summits Co. have 40% of Everest clients. and they have two dead clients on Everest this Year.
the Co. has also experienced three deaths on Makalu and one on Annapurna., so far for 2019,
( clients and sherpas)

So statistically, Everest despite the schittfight up there, aint any worse [if you go with Seven Summits].

below are Himalaya deaths overall for 2019 for some peaks;

Kangchenjunga >
2019, 15 May B.Baidya - Hypothermia
2019, 15 May K.Kanrar -Hypothermia
2019, 15 May R.Vivanco -Missing


Makalu >
24 May 2019 Nima Tshering Sherpa
16 May 2019 D.Ghos Disappearance
16 May 2019 N.Singh Altitude sickness
8 May 2019 R.Hidalgo

Hidalgo dead in his tent 20,669 feet. ... previous day with Sherpa team installing
a fixed line for safety.. climbing without supplemental oxygen.

Annapurna >
3 May 2019 Wui Kin Chin Hypothermia

Lhotse >
17 May 2019 Ivan Yuriev Tomov found dead in his tent after summiting Lhotse without
supplemental oxygen or sherpa support.

Cho Oyu >
1 May 2019 Phujung Bhote Sherpa died after falling into a crevasse while fixing rope near Camp 2.

Nanga Parbat >
24 February 2019 Daniele Nardi
24 February 2019 Tom Ballard


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10K for the permit and you have to wait in line. Pretty Pathetic

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You'd think their permit to summit would only be good for a single day to alleviate overcrowding since they appear to only be able to summit during a two week period. Tough luck if the weather is bad.

Selfish arrogant people could never tolerate that order.



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Originally Posted by Whiptail

You'd think their permit to summit would only be good for a single day to alleviate overcrowding since they appear to only be able to summit during a two week period. Tough luck if the weather is bad.

Selfish arrogant people could never tolerate that order.


Weather is way too big of a factor to pick a day. Part of the problem seen in the pic, nice day and everybody wants to summit.


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