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I want to build a .358 in a compact, 20” bbl, 13” LOP stock, CRF, bolt gun. Wood stock. Somewhat lightweight, but not too light. I do not like whippy featherweight barrels. And there’s the rub...

The easy answer is to buy a Winchester Model 70 Compact in 308 and have it re-bored to 358, But it only comes with an unwanted featherweight barrel contour.

So here are my options as I see them:

1. Buy the M70 Compact ($900 ish) and have it rebarreled in a 20” .358, sporter-ish weight bbl. (Which I would likely then have fluted for cosmetics and weight savings.) and then re-fit the stock barrel channel for the new, heavier barrel. Or...

2. Buy the Winchester M70 Supergrade Sporter ($1400 ish) in .308, have the barrel cut back to 20” and re-bored to .358. Then have the stock cut down to 13 inch LOP, and recoil pad installed.

What is the better option? I really don’t care much about the upgraded wood on the supergrade, although it’s kinda nice. Unfortunately, Winchester does not offer a standard sporter option in short action.

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If it were me I would simply state what I want down to the last feature and call Montana Rifle Company and order the rifle. Any way you slice it you’ll be spending $1,500+ why not get a turnkey rifle from one source rather than trying to cut, replace, mix and match.

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Originally Posted by Rossimp
If it were me I would simply state what I want down to the last feature and call Montana Rifle Company and order the rifle. Any way you slice it you’ll be spending $1,500+ why not get a turnkey rifle from one source rather than trying to cut, replace, mix and match.


Very interesting. I’m not very familiar with Montana rifles. Enlighten me please!

I went to their site and I don’t see a .358 option and no mention of customization.

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What is the allure of the 358 for you?

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Originally Posted by Rossimp
If it were me I would simply state what I want down to the last feature and call Montana Rifle Company and order the rifle. Any way you slice it you’ll be spending $1,500+ why not get a turnkey rifle from one source rather than trying to cut, replace, mix and match.

My thoughts exactly!


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Call em. They do non-std chambers as well as stds (the 358 Win is a std.) Even though they don’t show a 358 Win, I’m sure they will chamber it on a 20” barrel with .675”-.700” finished muzzle. They sell their actions as well if that is all that suits you. I’m sure they would build a 350 Rem Mag as well or a 35-300WSM (35 Sambar). The short mags actually are well suited to their 3” SA w/.532” bolt face. Either way their actions are a solid platform.

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What is the allure of the 358 for you?

A cabinet full of dies and components I already own. And just cause...

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Originally Posted by Rossimp
Call em. They do non-std chambers as well as stds (the 358 Win is a std.) Even though they don’t show a 358 Win, I’m sure they will chamber it on a 20” barrel with .675”-.700” finished muzzle. They sell their actions as well if that is all that suits you. I’m sure they would build a 350 Rem Mag as well or a 35-300WSM (35 Sambar). The short mags actually are well suited to their 3” SA w/.532” bolt face. Either way their actions are a solid platform.


Ok, I will call if they offer some custom options.

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Have you checked out Alamo Precision Rifles?

They’re building a 20” .358 win for me as we speak.

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Have you checked out Alamo Precision Rifles?

They’re building a 20” .358 win for me as we speak.

Nope, tell me more please!

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I'll throw this out to you - Kimber Montana SA, send to Shaen rifles for re-barrel with Lilja 84M modifled cut to 22". I was on a quest to do exactly as you describe. Got sidetracked with the 338 Fed and went 23" Lilja in 338 Fed. With a NF SHV in Talleys it weighs 6lb 12.6 oz. Fully loaded with sling will weigh an ounce or two over 7lbs. It is a sweet set up. For cost, you can find a SA for $900 or less, $325 for the Lilja, $375 or so for Shaen and you'll be at $1600. I had a SA that didn't shoot all that great so the re-barrel made sense.

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I think Grice's in Clearfield, Pa had a run of .358's in a light model 77!!


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He wrote that he wanted a wood stock...


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All I see from Grices is the Ruger American. No thanks.

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I'd find a factory Hawkeye M77 in .358 and cut a new crown and a new LOP. If that poses too much challenge, I'd find a nice wood Hawkeye donor and rebarrel, likely duping the factory Ruger magnum contour. The rifle will balance better and inletting the little bit of extra forend is not a huge feat. A .358 bore is a big hole, and it takes a substantial contour to give you enough weight out front with a 20" pipe. All the actions mentioned here in this thread are not light, and walnut stocks also tend to be biased a bit toward rear ballast. No way I'd want a lightweight barrel on such a rifle. It'd feel like the front end isn't even there. We all have our preferences....


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Originally Posted by JPro
I'd find a factory Hawkeye M77 in .358 and cut a new crown and a new LOP. If that poses too much challenge, I'd find a nice wood Hawkeye donor and rebarrel, likely duping the factory Ruger magnum contour. The rifle will balance better and inletting the little bit of extra forend is not a huge feat. A .358 bore is a big hole, and it takes a substantial contour to give you enough weight out front with a 20" pipe. All the actions mentioned here in this thread are not light, and walnut stocks also tend to be biased a bit toward rear ballast. No way I'd want a lightweight barrel on such a rifle. It'd feel like the front end isn't even there. We all have our preferences....


Completely agree. Which is why the featherweight option is not appealing. I have had Ruger tang safeties and MK2’s, never a Hawkeye. How does that action compare in function and build? I’ve never considered Ruger much for custom work as a team to be a bit odd with that angled actions screw and funny little recoil lug.

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What is the allure of the 358 for you?

A cabinet full of dies and components I already own. And just cause...


I get a 358 itch every once in a while, but I haven't scratched it.

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Originally Posted by JPro
I'd find a factory Hawkeye M77 in .358 and cut a new crown and a new LOP. If that poses too much challenge, I'd find a nice wood Hawkeye donor and rebarrel, likely duping the factory Ruger magnum contour. The rifle will balance better and inletting the little bit of extra forend is not a huge feat. A .358 bore is a big hole, and it takes a substantial contour to give you enough weight out front with a 20" pipe. All the actions mentioned here in this thread are not light, and walnut stocks also tend to be biased a bit toward rear ballast. No way I'd want a lightweight barrel on such a rifle. It'd feel like the front end isn't even there. We all have our preferences....


Easiest, most cost efficient option.

Another cost efficient route would be to go with any sporter barreled action of choice in .308/.243/etc and have JES rebore it. http://www.35caliber.com/

The MRC action would be nice if you want to go custom.

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Originally Posted by SDHNTR
I have had Ruger tang safeties and MK2’s, never a Hawkeye. How does that action compare in function and build? I’ve never considered Ruger much for custom work as a team to be a bit odd with that angled actions screw and funny little recoil lug.


The hawkeye is not that much different from the MkII. Most changes concern metal finish, stock lines, and the trigger. Honestly, a good tanger or MkII wouldn't be a bad start either, if the walnut is nice enough. If I'm not mistaken, the Ruger, MRC, M70, and the Howa/Vanguard all offer a bit more magazine box COAL than the standard 2.82" for short actions. That can be a plus in the .358win if you are trying to shoot tipped bullets like the NAB or TTSX.


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