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#13861537 - 05/30/19 Looks Like El Presidente Lopez-Obrador Just Blinked .....  
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#13861613 - 05/30/19 Re: Looks Like El Presidente Lopez-Obrador Just Blinked ..... [Re: ftbt]  
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I'm pretty certain when we sing our anthem and mention the land of the free, the original intent didn't mean cell phones, food stamps and birth control.
#13861621 - 05/30/19 Re: Looks Like El Presidente Lopez-Obrador Just Blinked ..... [Re: ftbt]  
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Hope Trump kicks them in the nethers.


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I'd encourage Trump to ignore this, stick to the tariffs, and wait for Obrador to shut down the traffic.


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#13861630 - 05/30/19 Re: Looks Like El Presidente Lopez-Obrador Just Blinked ..... [Re: ftbt]  
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#13861642 - 05/31/19 Re: Looks Like El Presidente Lopez-Obrador Just Blinked ..... [Re: ftbt]  
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Terrified of being the Mexican Pres that paid for the wall..................In a nutshell!



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#13861680 - 05/31/19 Re: Looks Like El Presidente Lopez-Obrador Just Blinked ..... [Re: ftbt]  
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Has anyone told the wetbacks that are streaming in that this political posturing is going on?


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#13861716 - 05/31/19 Re: Looks Like El Presidente Lopez-Obrador Just Blinked ..... [Re: xverminator]  
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Originally Posted by xverminator
Terrified of being the Mexican Pres that paid for the wall..................In a nutshell!



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That’s funny . . .

#13861731 - 05/31/19 Re: Looks Like El Presidente Lopez-Obrador Just Blinked ..... [Re: ftbt]  
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There would be NO low-wage-illegal-alien-worker-that-won't-talk-back problem in The United States if "Patriotic Americans" were NOT hiring them so they can put the money of out-of-work and/or underpaid genuine American workers in their own pocket for the sake of a new bass boat or $20,000 rifle. Greed and Sloth are NOT Patriotic American virtues, no matter a person's financial, political, or racial status. If any business or landowner in America cannot survive by paying genuine American's a wage they they, themselves, would expect if their shoe was on the other foot - they should close their business and go get a job at Walmart.

I am 61 and the first job I ever had in my life, when I was 17, I got paid $10.00 an hour - 44-years later people are angry about a $7.25 minimum wage, and then they wonder why their out of work genuine American neighbor votes for then enemy of their enemy...

No one owes you anything. You get what you give. Treat others the way you would like them to treat you.


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#13861735 - 05/31/19 Re: Looks Like El Presidente Lopez-Obrador Just Blinked ..... [Re: rockinbbar]  
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Originally Posted by rockinbbar
Has anyone told the wetbacks that are streaming in that this political posturing is going on?



THIS , close the border, now


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#13861749 - 05/31/19 Re: Looks Like El Presidente Lopez-Obrador Just Blinked ..... [Re: Quick_Karl]  
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Originally Posted by Quick_Karl
There would be NO low-wage-illegal-alien-worker-that-won't-talk-back problem in The United States if "Patriotic Americans" were NOT hiring them so they can put the money of out-of-work and/or underpaid genuine American workers in their own pocket for the sake of a new bass boat or $20,000 rifle. Greed and Sloth are NOT Patriotic American virtues, no matter a person's financial, political, or racial status. If any business or landowner in America cannot survive by paying genuine American's a wage they they, themselves, would expect if their shoe was on the other foot - they should close their business and go get a job at Walmart.

I am 61 and the first job I ever had in my life, when I was 17, I got paid $10.00 an hour - 44-years later people are angry about a $7.25 minimum wage, and then they wonder why their out of work genuine American neighbor votes for then enemy of their enemy...

No one owes you anything. You get what you give. Treat others the way you would like them to treat you.



Must’ve been a good job. I’m 45 and at 17, I was only making $8.11/ hr. I think you’re misremembering.
Stop giving out freebies and people will take jobs or they’ll go without. It’s too easy to sit back and claim you have a disability, etc right now. Welfare fraud, disability fraud and the like are running rampant. The system needs a complete overhaul. The problem isn’t just illegal aliens crossing the border. Start mandating jail time for employers that hire illegals. Comprehensive reform of the entire system is needed but the scum politicians don’t want to solve the problem. They just want to get paid.

Off my soapbox

#13861752 - 05/31/19 Re: Looks Like El Presidente Lopez-Obrador Just Blinked ..... [Re: xverminator]  
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Originally Posted by xverminator
Terrified of being the Mexican Pres that paid for the wall..................In a nutshell!


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I think he wants to get ahead of this before Trump hammers him like he's done to Lil' Kim and Xi and the Ayatollahs. No one feared Obama (outside the America).


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#13861758 - 05/31/19 Re: Looks Like El Presidente Lopez-Obrador Just Blinked ..... [Re: hatari]  
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Originally Posted by hatari
Originally Posted by xverminator
Terrified of being the Mexican Pres that paid for the wall..................In a nutshell!


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I think he wants to get ahead of this before Trump hammers him like he's done to Lil' Kim and Xi and the Ayatollahs. No one feared Obama (outside the America).

This.


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#13861760 - 05/31/19 Re: Looks Like El Presidente Lopez-Obrador Just Blinked ..... [Re: hunter4623]  
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Originally Posted by hunter4623
Originally Posted by Quick_Karl
There would be NO low-wage-illegal-alien-worker-that-won't-talk-back problem in The United States if "Patriotic Americans" were NOT hiring them so they can put the money of out-of-work and/or underpaid genuine American workers in their own pocket for the sake of a new bass boat or $20,000 rifle. Greed and Sloth are NOT Patriotic American virtues, no matter a person's financial, political, or racial status. If any business or landowner in America cannot survive by paying genuine American's a wage they they, themselves, would expect if their shoe was on the other foot - they should close their business and go get a job at Walmart.

I am 61 and the first job I ever had in my life, when I was 17, I got paid $10.00 an hour - 44-years later people are angry about a $7.25 minimum wage, and then they wonder why their out of work genuine American neighbor votes for then enemy of their enemy...

No one owes you anything. You get what you give. Treat others the way you would like them to treat you.



Start mandating jail time for employers that hire illegals.

Off my soapbox


I'm not mis-remembering anything.

Also, your unemployed and/or under-employed Genuine American neighbor, isn't going to just do without to suit someone that is profiting off of low wage illegal alien workers that wont talk back...


Like Sam Houston, I will vote for what is best for ME in 2020.
Texans read their Bibles to find what they want it to say, and are blind to what it actually says...
#13861820 - 05/31/19 Re: Looks Like El Presidente Lopez-Obrador Just Blinked ..... [Re: ftbt]  
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Don’t doubt Karl’s recollections of such. I started out at $8 per hour carrying hod for bricklayers, within 12-18 mos I was making $10 per hour on the north side of Chicago. Granted the union bricklayers were only making around $12-13 per hour, but as far as I know I was one of the few non union guys on a fair sized project.

Union rules were 2 laborers for every 3 bricklayers. But I took care of 4 guys solo. Every time the boss hired another laborer the crew ran them off, including the foreman’s son 🤷🏻‍♂️ Every time they ran one off the boss gave me a raise.

Bought my first brand new truck for cash for $4400, times were good for me. This would have been 77-79


I'm pretty certain when we sing our anthem and mention the land of the free, the original intent didn't mean cell phones, food stamps and birth control.
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alot of leaders would blink if you could park the 4th largest nuclear power off their coast in the form of a Ohio Class Submarine

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#13861859 - 05/31/19 Re: Looks Like El Presidente Lopez-Obrador Just Blinked ..... [Re: hunter4623]  
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Originally Posted by hunter4623
Originally Posted by Quick_Karl
There would be NO low-wage-illegal-alien-worker-that-won't-talk-back problem in The United States if "Patriotic Americans" were NOT hiring them so they can put the money of out-of-work and/or underpaid genuine American workers in their own pocket for the sake of a new bass boat or $20,000 rifle. Greed and Sloth are NOT Patriotic American virtues, no matter a person's financial, political, or racial status. If any business or landowner in America cannot survive by paying genuine American's a wage they they, themselves, would expect if their shoe was on the other foot - they should close their business and go get a job at Walmart.

I am 61 and the first job I ever had in my life, when I was 17, I got paid $10.00 an hour - 44-years later people are angry about a $7.25 minimum wage, and then they wonder why their out of work genuine American neighbor votes for then enemy of their enemy...

No one owes you anything. You get what you give. Treat others the way you would like them to treat you.



Must’ve been a good job. I’m 45 and at 17, I was only making $8.11/ hr. I think you’re misremembering.
Stop giving out freebies and people will take jobs or they’ll go without. It’s too easy to sit back and claim you have a disability, etc right now. Welfare fraud, disability fraud and the like are running rampant. The system needs a complete overhaul. The problem isn’t just illegal aliens crossing the border. Start mandating jail time for employers that hire illegals. Comprehensive reform of the entire system is needed but the scum politicians don’t want to solve the problem. They just want to get paid.

Off my soapbox


I'm 59, my first real job (seasonal help at a pickle processing plant) was in the summer of 1976, for $2.35 per hour. The federal minimum wage. Curious Quick, what did you do as an unskilled worker for $10/hour back in what 1975?

Edited to add that I lived in a southern right to work state.

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Drove an 18-yard dump truck (non-union) in a liberal State. Stupid kid I was, I just liked trucks...


Like Sam Houston, I will vote for what is best for ME in 2020.
Texans read their Bibles to find what they want it to say, and are blind to what it actually says...
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My first job was when I was 15, mopping floors and flipping burgers for 3.35. (1987)
I did have a old cattleman that paid me $7 an hour hustle square bales and drive T-posts on Saturdays.

There were "rumors" of jobs on the federal military base paying union wages of $8 for bitch-boy work.

However you had to be some fatfück union [bleep]'s kid to get those jobs.



As for mexicans and unpatriotic people hiring mexicans. The mexis in Tn do not work for the evil meat packing conglomerate.
The mexis here pool together a couple thousand dollars and get a scooby-doo van and boom, they in business for themselves. Self employed roofers, drywall, painters, they buy themselves mowers and start their lawn businesses.

Albeit, people should know better who theyre hiring, I guess the average 61 year old fat feeble homeowner is glad to pay Armando $35 to clean out their gutters.


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#13861920 - 05/31/19 Re: Looks Like El Presidente Lopez-Obrador Just Blinked ..... [Re: Quick_Karl]  
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I am with Karl. Summer of 1972, I was working for $8 an hour, plus overtime, paid holidays etc, for my summer job at the local feed mill. Busted my butt and by 1973 I was a $10 an hour guy. Paid for most of my college expenses. I could work anytime I was home from college, especially my Xmas/winter break.

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