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Thanks for sharing. Not really surprised by any of those results, with all the bullets behaving pretty well, considering their designs. The 130 TTSX is a mean little bugger....

Interesting to see that the 168NBT was such a good penetrator. I caught one of those on a hard-angle deer shot and it looked about like your bullet. It's a good choice in the .308win.

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I'm actually surprised the Interlokt's performed as poorly as they did. I expected them to do at least as good as the BT and ELDX.


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The 150gr .30cal is a bit stubby, compared to the NBT and ELD-X, but I'd have guessed it to dig as deep and hold together a little better, given the sub-2700fps MV.


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I would love to see a 150 TSX from the .308 tested for penetration and expansion! That is your weekend assignment! grin memtb


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Originally Posted by JPro
The 150gr .30cal is a bit stubby, compared to the NBT and ELD-X, but I'd have guessed it to dig as deep and hold together a little better, given the sub-2700fps MV.


I also don't think the jacket of the 150 Hornady is as thick as that of the 168 BT either.

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I’ll send you couple 30 cal 168 ttsx to try out next time to see how it does compare to the 130.


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I've run a couple similar tests in the past, but didn't bother with Barnes since I figured I knew they would expand nicely, penetrate deeply and not lose any weight. I threw the 130 TTSX in the mix this time because it is so different in terms of velocity and weight from what I normally run in .308. I had also noticed when picking a few up from the dirt at my range that the hollow point seemed larger than other TSX or TTSXs that I've used. I was curious to compare the penetration and to see how big the expanded diameter would be.

I do load some other Barnes including 165 TTSXs in my 300 WSM at a little over 3100 fps. I also have some old leftover 30 cal 150gr MRX bullets that I could load up. I guess I could do a little Barnes vs Barnes test next time.

Just a couple other notes: I've run the 168 Ballistic Tip into the paper at over 3000 fps and it looked essentially the same as this test. Also, just about every un-bonded cup and core bullet I've tested this way has spit the core, but it is usually right by the jacket if I do find it. As long as the bullet doesn't completely flatten, fragment or fail to penetrate I consider it fairly stout - it's a pretty tough test of a bullet.

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I always enjoy these tests and the good info. Thanks for your time and effort!

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Thanks for this!
I'd love to see the .308 Winchester, 130 gr. TTSX (ideally the 168 gr.) at 400 yards. My fear is they won't expand at all.

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Mirrors my results through milk jugs. Which speaks well of their respective consistency.


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Originally Posted by Yuk
Thanks for this!
I'd love to see the .308 Winchester, 130 gr. TTSX (ideally the 168 gr.) at 400 yards. My fear is they won't expand at all.



Might take a few more yards than that to see no expansion. Impact at 400yd would be 2100fps with the 130gr load. I’ve seen hits on deer/hogs with the 7mm 120gr ttsx at impacts of 2250-2300fps and the expanded well enough for killing, even on broadside shots. Might not have been tremendous expansion, but was enough for good damage and blood trails.


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Good read. A comparison at longer range would be useful. I've reviewed many bullet tests and always find them interesting. Thanks for sharing the results and for your time and effort.

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Great work, and thanks for sharing.


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Thanks for the test data, working with newspaper is tough.


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I hope the 175 LRX would


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Thanks for the info, they all should kill deer and pigs well. I’m gonna try the 130 TTSX in a 300 Savage soon, try it on some 🐷 piggies.

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This is good information.

Thank you for posting it.


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I have really been liking those 168gr Ballistic Tips.


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Neat post. I appreciate your time!

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