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As a long standing supporting vendor here on the forum as well as a long time Leupold dealer I would like to attempt to clear up all this recent Leupold chatter. This thread is for you to state specific issues that you feel are relevant so that they can be addressed.

Please be as specific as possible.
Please feel free to PM me if that is better for you
Please do not post an issue that you heard your friends cousins brother-in-laws neighbor had.

Leupold is a solid company making multi-budgeted products. Some entry level and some high end. Obviously, a $200.00 scope will not and should not have the same expectations of a $1,500.00 scope. However, every product they offer can and should be expected to perform as advertised and be well made.

I look forward to this being a proactive and productive thread. Let's see what we can do to address whatever issues you feel are relevant.

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Was this your idea, or has Leupold asked you to do this? I think that's a fair question; whether or not you're at liberty to answer is something else.

Good luck!

Beef up the erector guts, even if it adds a little weight and that'll be good enough for me to be a fan once again

Create accurate pictures of their reticles on both their website and packaging.....

Oh brother.....

Doug is going to wish he had not opened this can of worms.

I like my 25 plus Leupold scopes. I haven’t had any problems with them.

Ditto what hanco said. I don't have 25 plus, but the ones I do have are all trouble free.

This was my idea. I want to attempt to clear up some real issues. As a Leupold dealer it slows sales of product (I know selfish of me) and as a supporting vendor on this site I feel it is my obligation to the members here to try and get issues corrected.

There are 2 threads at the moment and unfortunately on this, as well as most forums, once a thread gets very long it loses the original purpose of the OP as well as sometimes just becomes a bashing thread.

How can I suggest a Leupold product these days if popular opinion here is negative? Sometimes the perfect product for a members quest is a Leupold but if everyone around him is bashing it then it's not going to be a popular answer.

Leupold cannot make a post like this for themselves?

This was my idea. I want to attempt to clear up some real issues. As a Leupold dealer it slows sales of product (I know selfish of me) and as a supporting vendor on this site I feel it is my obligation to the members here to try and get issues corrected.

There are 2 threads at the moment and unfortunately on this, as well as most forums, once a thread gets very long it loses the original purpose of the OP as well as sometimes just becomes a bashing thread.

How can I suggest a Leupold product these days if popular opinion here is negative? Sometimes the perfect product for a members quest is a Leupold but if everyone around him is bashing it then it's not going to be a popular answer.

They could but won't

That's the point right there...

Heck their representative that comes on here once in a while wilts away the minute a serious question is asked.

They need to buy the rights to Weavers Micro-trac system and most of their problems will go away. More specifically, it has always been the erector system that is weak.I stopped using their BR models 20 years ago for that very reason.

Guys, what about "This thread is for you to state specific issues that you feel are relevant so that they can be addressed." isn't clear. I did not start this to be yet another bash fest. I started this to hopefully get so serious input I can bring back to Leupold to increase awareness of member opinion of current issues.

In answer to "Leupold cannot make a post like this for themselves?" the answer is no in reality they cannot. They are not a supporting vendor of this forum and therefore not in a position to do something like this themselves.


PLEASE, use this space constructively so we can make some changes that you all have expressed is overdue. Thank you

Doug, I have not purchased a Leupold product in 10 years or more. I would be hard pressed to buy one now as inviting as some of their products are like the VX5 HD and VX6 HD's . When I hear reports about them holding zero , not having misaligned reticles yada yada then I will consider them once again. At one point all I ever owned were Leupolds.

Doug

I know from my standpoint there’s not much Leupold could do to have me go back to them... At one time I had around 20 Leupold scopes and as shooting habits changed I began to notice the quality of scopes I once thought were great were in fact mediocre at best... Tracking, return to zero, failure to hold zero, inconsistent turret value, loose internal parts etc... I’ve tried to give them a chance to rectify the issues but a 75-80% failure rate on warranty returns just wasn’t cutting it...

These scopes were not the $299 versions either... All were 30 mm versions(VX3, VX-III, MK 4 etc) with Side focus and exposed turrets (M1,M2,M3) Failure after failure with no end in sight... The more I used them the more they failed... I switched brands and have been failure free since...

I am rough on equipment and shoot a considerable amount... some weeks I can shoot between 1-5k rounds under one optic and other times up to 10k depending on the clientele and what we are doing... None the less if it’s a quality product it should be able to handle such things... After all thats what the aiming devices are designed to do...

These are my personal experiences and no 2nd hand experiences which I see happen on a regular basis... I cringe when I see a client show up with a Leupold... I see perhaps a 10% failure rate of clientele optics on average... Not all are Leupold but a majority are...

It’s an honorable act you are doing and I wish you luck...

THIS!!!! If they do this, 98% of their problems are solved.

Guys:

I think we should not kill the messenger. Doug is trying to do the right thing here, and I think we should help.

I'll bet dollars to donuts Leupold is watching this thread, as they should.

Let's take an opportunity to give them constructive feedback so they can better meet customer desires.

I still own more Leupolds than any other brand of scope. Love their eye relief, weight, and overall package. Clearly, tracking is an issue that many wish to have addressed. I am in that camp.

I think this ought to be viewed as a good thing.