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What .223 Rem? #13873544 06/04/19 Joined: Feb 2004 Posts: 46,745 Just The Tip T tzone OP Campfire 'Bwana OP tzone Campfire 'Bwana T Joined: Feb 2004 Posts: 46,745 Just The Tip Since Kimber isn’t making the Montana in .223 Rem anymore, what should I consider instead? I would love a light weight .223 with similar quality to the Montana. I’m not real interested in the fieldcraft. Camp is where you make it.

Re: What .223 Rem? tzone #13873663 06/04/19 Joined: Jan 2012 Posts: 3,150 KTN, AK AKduck Campfire Tracker AKduck Campfire Tracker Joined: Jan 2012 Posts: 3,150 KTN, AK Whittakers still shows the Kimber 223 in stock. Shy of that I like the Tikka for no nonsense. Yup.

Re: What .223 Rem? tzone #13873882 06/04/19 Joined: Dec 2008 Posts: 78,300 Southwestern Montucky ingwe Campfire Oracle ingwe Campfire Oracle Joined: Dec 2008 Posts: 78,300 Southwestern Montucky Simple...Tikka Superlight in .223 with an 8 twist Will handle a wide variety of bullets and no " Kimber roulette"...stone cold shooters... "...the left considers you vermin, and they'll kill you given the chance..." Bristoe

Re: What .223 Rem? ingwe #13874046 06/04/19 Joined: Jan 2010 Posts: 13,125 Willamette Valley, Oregon P Pharmseller Campfire Outfitter Pharmseller Campfire Outfitter P Joined: Jan 2010 Posts: 13,125 Willamette Valley, Oregon Originally Posted by ingwe Simple...Tikka Superlight in .223 with an 8 twist Will handle a wide variety of bullets and no " Kimber roulette"...stone cold shooters... That’s good advice. Unless you like uncertainty and drama. P Obey lawful commands. Video interactions. Hold bad cops accountable. Problem solved. ~Molɔ̀ːn Labé Skýla~ Member #547 Join date 3/09/2001

Re: What .223 Rem? tzone #13874065 06/05/19 Joined: Aug 2008 Posts: 1,184 Alabama W Wesley2 Campfire Regular Wesley2 Campfire Regular W Joined: Aug 2008 Posts: 1,184 Alabama Second the vote for the Tikka SL. 3 consecutive 3 shot groups at 100 yards with 3 different types of factory ammo, with the most expensive being hornady black.

Re: What .223 Rem? tzone #13874379 06/05/19 Joined: Feb 2004 Posts: 46,745 Just The Tip T tzone OP Campfire 'Bwana OP tzone Campfire 'Bwana T Joined: Feb 2004 Posts: 46,745 Just The Tip Nice! I have no problems with Tikka except they just don't fit me. I know there are ways to fix that but... Camp is where you make it.

Re: What .223 Rem? tzone #13874406 06/05/19 Joined: Dec 2008 Posts: 78,300 Southwestern Montucky ingwe Campfire Oracle ingwe Campfire Oracle Joined: Dec 2008 Posts: 78,300 Southwestern Montucky Originally Posted by tzone Nice! I have no problems with Tikka except they just don't fit me. I know there are ways to fix that but... Tom...it might be easier-and definitely cheaper- to "fix" the fit on a Tikka than fix the issues with a Kimber... "...the left considers you vermin, and they'll kill you given the chance..." Bristoe

Re: What .223 Rem? tzone #13874576 06/05/19 Joined: Aug 2010 Posts: 27,896 TN A alwaysoutdoors Campfire Ranger alwaysoutdoors Campfire Ranger A Joined: Aug 2010 Posts: 27,896 TN Someone please tell me the draw to a 223 in a bolt gun? I own one and its fun, but do not see the high desirabilty.

Re: What .223 Rem? alwaysoutdoors #13874629 06/05/19 Joined: Dec 2010 Posts: 19,232 B Blackheart Campfire Ranger Blackheart Campfire Ranger B Joined: Dec 2010 Posts: 19,232 Originally Posted by alwaysoutdoors Someone please tell me the draw to a 223 in a bolt gun? I own one and its fun, but do not see the high desirabilty. Economical as hell to shoot with both handloads and factory ammo. Can be loaded to effectively and efficiently take everything from rabbits and squirrels to deer. All that and WAAAAY better carryability/ handling and FAR, FAR, FAAAAAR less ugly than a stinkin' AR.

Re: What .223 Rem? tzone #13874648 06/05/19 Joined: Aug 2010 Posts: 27,896 TN A alwaysoutdoors Campfire Ranger alwaysoutdoors Campfire Ranger A Joined: Aug 2010 Posts: 27,896 TN Very practical. Ok

Re: What .223 Rem? tzone #13874680 06/05/19 Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 6,366 Idaho D drover Campfire Tracker drover Campfire Tracker D Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 6,366 Idaho Tikka T-3, no drama - just pick a good factory load or your favorite hand-load, put a scope on it and proceed to shoot small groups. Pretty? - NO! Effective - Yes! The only thing you need to be aware of is that early T-3's were a 12 twist, some later ones are a 10 twist, and it seems that most of them are now an 8 twist. Depending on what bullet weight you are planning to shoot you may want to be sure of the twist rate for that bullet. I have owned them all and since I shoot primarily 40 and occassionaly 50 gr bullets I am shooting a 10 twist which gives me the ability to go to a heavier bullet should I desire to. drover Last edited by drover; 06/05/19. 223 Rem, my favorite cartridge - you can't argue with truckloads of dead PD's and gophers. 24hourcampfire.com - The site where there is a problem for every solution.

Re: What .223 Rem? drover #13874740 06/05/19 Joined: Apr 2003 Posts: 6,825 Texas southtexas Campfire Tracker southtexas Campfire Tracker Joined: Apr 2003 Posts: 6,825 Texas Is the Tikka 223 a long action?

Re: What .223 Rem? alwaysoutdoors #13874777 06/05/19 Joined: Feb 2004 Posts: 46,745 Just The Tip T tzone OP Campfire 'Bwana OP tzone Campfire 'Bwana T Joined: Feb 2004 Posts: 46,745 Just The Tip Originally Posted by alwaysoutdoors Someone please tell me the draw to a 223 in a bolt gun? I own one and its fun, but do not see the high desirabilty. I love it. It hammers deer as well as anything else I've killed them with. It SIMPLE (even for me) to load for. Or just to run in and grab a box of ammo if you need to. It's relatively quiet, has almost no recoil, tons of bullets available. Camp is where you make it.

Re: What .223 Rem? ingwe #13874781 06/05/19 Joined: Feb 2004 Posts: 46,745 Just The Tip T tzone OP Campfire 'Bwana OP tzone Campfire 'Bwana T Joined: Feb 2004 Posts: 46,745 Just The Tip Originally Posted by ingwe Originally Posted by tzone Nice! I have no problems with Tikka except they just don't fit me. I know there are ways to fix that but... Tom...it might be easier-and definitely cheaper- to "fix" the fit on a Tikka than fix the issues with a Kimber... That very well may be the case. I will say the Kimber Hunter was damn near perfect. Not made in a .223 or I'd have one. Camp is where you make it.

Re: What .223 Rem? southtexas #13874785 06/05/19 Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 28,370 Idaho, USA Jim in Idaho Campfire Ranger Jim in Idaho Campfire Ranger Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 28,370 Idaho, USA All Tikka T3 and T3x rifles are built on the same length action, but there are different length bolt stops limiting travel appropriately for .223, short action (.308 based) and standard long action cartridges. Gunnery, gunnery, gunnery. Hit the target, all else is twaddle!

Re: What .223 Rem? tzone #13874817 06/05/19 Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 3,032 N n8dawg6 Campfire Tracker n8dawg6 Campfire Tracker N Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 3,032 Originally Posted by tzone Originally Posted by alwaysoutdoors Someone please tell me the draw to a 223 in a bolt gun? I own one and its fun, but do not see the high desirabilty. I love it. It hammers deer as well as anything else I've killed them with. It SIMPLE (even for me) to load for. Or just to run in and grab a box of ammo if you need to. It's relatively quiet, has almost no recoil, tons of bullets available. the 50 ct of hornady 55 g soft point ammo is so cheap and effective i havent loaded a .223 round in months. Uber Demanding Rifle Aficionado

Re: What .223 Rem? n8dawg6 #13875006 06/05/19 Joined: Dec 2010 Posts: 19,232 B Blackheart Campfire Ranger Blackheart Campfire Ranger B Joined: Dec 2010 Posts: 19,232 Originally Posted by n8dawg6 Originally Posted by tzone Originally Posted by alwaysoutdoors Someone please tell me the draw to a 223 in a bolt gun? I own one and its fun, but do not see the high desirabilty. I love it. It hammers deer as well as anything else I've killed them with. It SIMPLE (even for me) to load for. Or just to run in and grab a box of ammo if you need to. It's relatively quiet, has almost no recoil, tons of bullets available. the 50 ct of hornady 55 g soft point ammo is so cheap and effective i havent loaded a .223 round in months. Yep, I shoot alot of those 50 ct. Hornady's. Have killed a half dozen deer and a mountain of woodchucks with them.

Re: What .223 Rem? tzone #13876408 06/05/19 Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 58,321 Paradise,Alaska Big Stick Campfire Kahuna Big Stick Campfire Kahuna Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 58,321 Paradise,Alaska Originally Posted by tzone Since Kimber isn’t making the Montana in .223 Rem anymore, what should I consider instead? I would love a light weight .223 with similar quality to the Montana. I’m not real interested in the fieldcraft. Nab a Darrik Montucky. Hint...……………………. Brad says: "Can't fault Rick for his pity letting you back on the fire... but pity it was and remains. Nothing more, nothing less. A sad little man in a sad little dream."

Re: What .223 Rem? tzone #13877052 06/06/19 Joined: Dec 2005 Posts: 2,932 D devnull Campfire Regular devnull Campfire Regular D Joined: Dec 2005 Posts: 2,932 I think a .223 is one of my favorite calibers. It's very effective around the yard on coyote, groundhogs, etc. It's also the most economical caliber to load for when factoring in 5.56 brass can be had for close to free.

Re: What .223 Rem? tzone #13877462 06/06/19 Joined: May 2008 Posts: 496 South Central, PA E extremesolo Campfire Member extremesolo Campfire Member E Joined: May 2008 Posts: 496 South Central, PA The recommendation of the Tikka SL is a good one for sure. Another potential option, depending on what weight bullets you plan to shoot, would be a Remington model 7 predator. I have one that has a 12 twist barrel which has had the Hart accurizing package done to it. It shoots 40 and 50 grain bullets well and is a nice handy rifle. I have not tried any heavier bullets because for what I wanted it for 50 grain and less bullets work fine. I know Remington made some of the model 7 predators with a twist rate other than 1:12 so if you looked around a little I'm sure you could find one with a faster twist if you so desired.

Re: What .223 Rem? tzone #13877584 06/06/19 Joined: Feb 2004 Posts: 46,745 Just The Tip T tzone OP Campfire 'Bwana OP tzone Campfire 'Bwana T Joined: Feb 2004 Posts: 46,745 Just The Tip I'm not real interested in a Tikka unless I can't find what I'm looking for. I've had a few and just didn't care for them. The accuracy I got out of them, I've got out of nearly every rifle I've had. A few exceptions of course. Camp is where you make it.

Re: What .223 Rem? tzone #13877624 06/06/19 Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 58,321 Paradise,Alaska Big Stick Campfire Kahuna Big Stick Campfire Kahuna Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 58,321 Paradise,Alaska Real fhuqking easy...simply call Darrik and connect all dots. Hint........... Brad says: "Can't fault Rick for his pity letting you back on the fire... but pity it was and remains. Nothing more, nothing less. A sad little man in a sad little dream."

Re: What .223 Rem? tzone #13878254 06/06/19 Joined: Feb 2001 Posts: 3,336 Sandy Springs Georgia W weagle Campfire Tracker weagle Campfire Tracker W Joined: Feb 2001 Posts: 3,336 Sandy Springs Georgia I've got a Howa mini that I like a lot. The mag is cheap but it's workable and upgradeable. I think one of the draws of a .223 bolt is having it built on small, lightweight action.

Re: What .223 Rem? tzone #13878638 06/06/19 Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 58,321 Paradise,Alaska Big Stick Campfire Kahuna Big Stick Campfire Kahuna Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 58,321 Paradise,Alaska If a mag isn't an AICS footprint,it's Dog Schit...pure and simple. Hint.............. Brad says: "Can't fault Rick for his pity letting you back on the fire... but pity it was and remains. Nothing more, nothing less. A sad little man in a sad little dream."

Re: What .223 Rem? tzone #13878650 06/06/19 Joined: Apr 2010 Posts: 75 B baldguy Campfire Greenhorn baldguy Campfire Greenhorn B Joined: Apr 2010 Posts: 75 I picked up one of the last Kimbers from Whittakers and after the doing the standard modifications it is a half in. gun with three diff. loads. Love the gun but wish it did not have the threads on the end of the barrel.

Re: What .223 Rem? tzone #13878659 06/06/19 Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 58,321 Paradise,Alaska Big Stick Campfire Kahuna Big Stick Campfire Kahuna Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 58,321 Paradise,Alaska No thang to turn a seamless protector,that you'd not even be able to detect. Hint................. Brad says: "Can't fault Rick for his pity letting you back on the fire... but pity it was and remains. Nothing more, nothing less. A sad little man in a sad little dream."

Re: What .223 Rem? tzone #13878660 06/06/19 Joined: Jun 2007 Posts: 24,488 Bozeman, MT shrapnel Campfire Ranger shrapnel Campfire Ranger Joined: Jun 2007 Posts: 24,488 Bozeman, MT This one works and shoots better than a Kimber, or even Cooper for that matter...

Re: What .223 Rem? tzone #13878676 06/06/19 Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 58,321 Paradise,Alaska Big Stick Campfire Kahuna Big Stick Campfire Kahuna Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 58,321 Paradise,Alaska It hasn't the twist or COAL to hang,let alone the mounting system or glass. Congratulations?!? Bless your heart for trying though. Hint............... Brad says: "Can't fault Rick for his pity letting you back on the fire... but pity it was and remains. Nothing more, nothing less. A sad little man in a sad little dream."

Re: What .223 Rem? shrapnel #13878744 06/06/19 Joined: Aug 2010 Posts: 2,332 The Buckeye State M micky Campfire Regular micky Campfire Regular M Joined: Aug 2010 Posts: 2,332 The Buckeye State Originally Posted by shrapnel This one works and shoots better than a Kimber, or even Cooper for that matter... Shrapnel - I would love to spend an afternoon simply looking at the collection of rifles you have. If so invited, I will gladly bring good bourbon for sipping an a roll of paper towels in case I start drooling. “Lighten up Francis”

Re: What .223 Rem? tzone #13878774 06/06/19 Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 58,321 Paradise,Alaska Big Stick Campfire Kahuna Big Stick Campfire Kahuna Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 58,321 Paradise,Alaska You'd do well to bring a bottle of Bleach,so as to HOPE to remove the stench...of Goat Fhuqktitude. Hint............. Brad says: "Can't fault Rick for his pity letting you back on the fire... but pity it was and remains. Nothing more, nothing less. A sad little man in a sad little dream."

Re: What .223 Rem? shrapnel #13878795 06/06/19 Joined: Mar 2019 Posts: 417 Upstate SC Tstorm1 Campfire Member Tstorm1 Campfire Member Joined: Mar 2019 Posts: 417 Upstate SC Originally Posted by shrapnel This one works and shoots better than a Kimber, or even Cooper for that matter... I've got a 222 with that action, but mine isn't as pretty as that!!! Short of that just get the Tikka SL. Cost effective, light and it just shoots.

Re: What .223 Rem? tzone #13878805 06/06/19 Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 58,321 Paradise,Alaska Big Stick Campfire Kahuna Big Stick Campfire Kahuna Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 58,321 Paradise,Alaska There's nothing to get giddy about in the Sucko,nor the Teeker. Hint.............. Brad says: "Can't fault Rick for his pity letting you back on the fire... but pity it was and remains. Nothing more, nothing less. A sad little man in a sad little dream."

Re: What .223 Rem? Tstorm1 #13878839 06/06/19 Joined: Jan 2008 Posts: 14,118 Texas G geedubya Campfire Outfitter geedubya Campfire Outfitter G Joined: Jan 2008 Posts: 14,118 Texas Originally Posted by Tstorm1 Originally Posted by shrapnel This one works and shoots better than a Kimber, or even Cooper for that matter... I've got a 222 with that action, but mine isn't as pretty as that!!! Short of that just get the Tikka SL. Cost effective, light and it just shoots. as original as the day it was born! ya! GWB A Kill Artist. When I draw, I draw blood.

Re: What .223 Rem? tzone #13878846 06/06/19 Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 58,321 Paradise,Alaska Big Stick Campfire Kahuna Big Stick Campfire Kahuna Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 58,321 Paradise,Alaska I've suffered same and it's nice to kick them in the ass and move them along...to yield something good. Hint............... Brad says: "Can't fault Rick for his pity letting you back on the fire... but pity it was and remains. Nothing more, nothing less. A sad little man in a sad little dream."

Re: What .223 Rem? Big Stick #13878890 06/06/19 Joined: Jun 2007 Posts: 24,488 Bozeman, MT shrapnel Campfire Ranger shrapnel Campfire Ranger Joined: Jun 2007 Posts: 24,488 Bozeman, MT Originally Posted by Big Stick You'd do well to bring a bottle of Bleach,so as to HOPE to remove the stench...of Goat Fhuqktitude. Hint............. Not so, you aren't invited, you fish sucking goat herder...

Re: What .223 Rem? geedubya #13878898 06/06/19 Joined: Jun 2007 Posts: 24,488 Bozeman, MT shrapnel Campfire Ranger shrapnel Campfire Ranger Joined: Jun 2007 Posts: 24,488 Bozeman, MT Originally Posted by geedubya Originally Posted by Tstorm1 Originally Posted by shrapnel This one works and shoots better than a Kimber, or even Cooper for that matter... I've got a 222 with that action, but mine isn't as pretty as that!!! Short of that just get the Tikka SL. Cost effective, light and it just shoots. as original as the day it was born! ya! GWB We're talking 223 here, and these are all rare originals...

Re: What .223 Rem? shrapnel #13878901 06/06/19 Joined: Jan 2008 Posts: 14,118 Texas G geedubya Campfire Outfitter geedubya Campfire Outfitter G Joined: Jan 2008 Posts: 14,118 Texas 10/4 my bad! ya! GWB A Kill Artist. When I draw, I draw blood.

Re: What .223 Rem? shrapnel #13878905 06/06/19 Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 58,321 Paradise,Alaska Big Stick Campfire Kahuna Big Stick Campfire Kahuna Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 58,321 Paradise,Alaska Originally Posted by shrapnel Originally Posted by Big Stick You'd do well to bring a bottle of Bleach,so as to HOPE to remove the stench...of Goat Fhuqktitude. Hint............. Not so, you aren't invited, you fish sucking goat herder... Shrapnel, Now what were the "odds",that besides being a CLUELESS Kchunt,that you are also a Lying Piece Of Fhuqking Schit and yet again,"forgot" about your heralded Imaginary Pretend Ignore. Congratulations?!? Bless your heart,for doing your best. Hint................... Brad says: "Can't fault Rick for his pity letting you back on the fire... but pity it was and remains. Nothing more, nothing less. A sad little man in a sad little dream."

Re: What .223 Rem? tzone #13878925 06/06/19 Joined: Feb 2004 Posts: 7,731 Alabama 4 444Matt Campfire Outfitter 444Matt Campfire Outfitter 4 Joined: Feb 2004 Posts: 7,731 Alabama You said the T3 don’t fit you so I’d third calling Whitaker’s for a Montana or there is a nice savage lightweight in the classifieds.

Re: What .223 Rem? tzone #13878931 06/06/19 Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 58,321 Paradise,Alaska Big Stick Campfire Kahuna Big Stick Campfire Kahuna Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 58,321 Paradise,Alaska "Nice savage" is THE OXIEST of MORONS. Hint..................(grin) Brad says: "Can't fault Rick for his pity letting you back on the fire... but pity it was and remains. Nothing more, nothing less. A sad little man in a sad little dream."

Re: What .223 Rem? Big Stick #13878964 06/06/19 Joined: Jun 2007 Posts: 24,488 Bozeman, MT shrapnel Campfire Ranger shrapnel Campfire Ranger Joined: Jun 2007 Posts: 24,488 Bozeman, MT Originally Posted by Big Stick Originally Posted by shrapnel Originally Posted by Big Stick You'd do well to bring a bottle of Bleach,so as to HOPE to remove the stench...of Goat Fhuqktitude. Hint............. Not so, you aren't invited, you fish sucking goat herder... Shrapnel, Now what were the "odds",that besides being a CLUELESS Kchunt,that you are also a Lying Piece Of Fhuqking Schit and yet again,"forgot" about your heralded Imaginary Pretend Ignore. Congratulations?!? Bless your heart,for doing your best. Hint................... I will be in AK from June 19-July 1. Bring your midget ass to Wasilla and keep blowing your Freon horn so’s I know where to step and not smash your bugass into a mud puddle...

Re: What .223 Rem? tzone #13878975 06/06/19 Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 58,321 Paradise,Alaska Big Stick Campfire Kahuna Big Stick Campfire Kahuna Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 58,321 Paradise,Alaska Shrapnel, It's your Imagination,simply fhuqking Pretend with it as you MUST...you Lying Piece Of Fhuqking Schit. Congratulations?!? Hint.................. Brad says: "Can't fault Rick for his pity letting you back on the fire... but pity it was and remains. Nothing more, nothing less. A sad little man in a sad little dream."

Re: What .223 Rem? tzone #13879063 06/06/19 Joined: Jan 2012 Posts: 3,150 KTN, AK AKduck Campfire Tracker AKduck Campfire Tracker Joined: Jan 2012 Posts: 3,150 KTN, AK I think I want another 223 Kimber before they are gone. Was holding out for a Fieldcraft but that appears to be a ways down the road. Yup.

Re: What .223 Rem? tzone #13879096 06/06/19 Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 58,321 Paradise,Alaska Big Stick Campfire Kahuna Big Stick Campfire Kahuna Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 58,321 Paradise,Alaska They've no equal. Hint................ Brad says: "Can't fault Rick for his pity letting you back on the fire... but pity it was and remains. Nothing more, nothing less. A sad little man in a sad little dream."

Re: What .223 Rem? shrapnel #13879168 06/06/19 Joined: Jul 2005 Posts: 23,499 Alaska valley trash 7 79S Campfire Ranger 79S Campfire Ranger 7 Joined: Jul 2005 Posts: 23,499 Alaska valley trash Originally Posted by shrapnel Originally Posted by Big Stick Originally Posted by shrapnel Originally Posted by Big Stick You'd do well to bring a bottle of Bleach,so as to HOPE to remove the stench...of Goat Fhuqktitude. Hint............. Not so, you aren't invited, you fish sucking goat herder... Shrapnel, Now what were the "odds",that besides being a CLUELESS Kchunt,that you are also a Lying Piece Of Fhuqking Schit and yet again,"forgot" about your heralded Imaginary Pretend Ignore. Congratulations?!? Bless your heart,for doing your best. Hint................... I will be in AK from June 19-July 1. Bring your midget ass to Wasilla and keep blowing your Freon horn so’s I know where to step and not smash your bugass into a mud puddle... Coming to Wasilla are you? Originally Posted by Bricktop Then STFU. The rest of your statement is superflous bullshit with no real bearing on this discussion other than to massage your own ego. Suckin' on my titties like you wanted me.

Re: What .223 Rem? Big Stick #13879185 06/06/19 Joined: Feb 2004 Posts: 7,731 Alabama 4 444Matt Campfire Outfitter 444Matt Campfire Outfitter 4 Joined: Feb 2004 Posts: 7,731 Alabama Originally Posted by Big Stick "Nice savage" is THE OXIEST of MORONS. Hint..................(grin) Maybe so but them ugly fuggers sure do plow straight. (Grin)

Re: What .223 Rem? 444Matt #13879196 06/06/19 Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 58,321 Paradise,Alaska Big Stick Campfire Kahuna Big Stick Campfire Kahuna Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 58,321 Paradise,Alaska Originally Posted by 444Matt Originally Posted by Big Stick "Nice savage" is THE OXIEST of MORONS. Hint..................(grin) Maybe so but them ugly fuggers sure do plow straight. (Grin) ESPECIALLY if it's all you've "seen". Hint.................. Brad says: "Can't fault Rick for his pity letting you back on the fire... but pity it was and remains. Nothing more, nothing less. A sad little man in a sad little dream."

Re: What .223 Rem? Big Stick #13879226 06/06/19 Joined: Jan 2010 Posts: 8,423 Wa west 🇱🇷 F fredIII Campfire Outfitter fredIII Campfire Outfitter F Joined: Jan 2010 Posts: 8,423 Wa west 🇱🇷 Originally Posted by Big Stick Shrapnel, It's your Imagination,simply fhuqking Pretend with it as you MUST...you Lying Piece Of Fhuqking Schit. Congratulations?!? Hint.................. Crying laughing sugartits you truly are the worlds definition of cull. Look close and tell me I’m wrong. 🤣

Re: What .223 Rem? shrapnel #13879285 06/07/19 Joined: Apr 2005 Posts: 13,757 J JCMCUBIC Campfire Outfitter JCMCUBIC Campfire Outfitter J Joined: Apr 2005 Posts: 13,757 Originally Posted by shrapnel Originally Posted by Big Stick You'd do well to bring a bottle of Bleach,so as to HOPE to remove the stench...of Goat Fhuqktitude. Hint............. Not so, you aren't invited, you fish sucking goat herder... You two keep talking bad about goats...enough. A hex on both of you. May Stick be forced to shoot/hunt with nothing but wood/blued/Swararski'd rifles the rest of his life. May shrapnel be forced to shoot/hunt with stainless/synthetic/SWFA'd rifles the rest of his life. ...bunch a goat-smack talking trash....grin...

Re: What .223 Rem? tzone #13879291 06/07/19 Joined: Apr 2005 Posts: 13,757 J JCMCUBIC Campfire Outfitter JCMCUBIC Campfire Outfitter J Joined: Apr 2005 Posts: 13,757 To add a post pertinent the the original..... Montana .223 from Whitaker's is the easiest and best route to go if you want a lightweight factory rifle for most factory fodder at this time. Don't wait, it's exactly what you mentioned in your original post.

Re: What .223 Rem? tzone #13879293 06/07/19 Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 58,321 Paradise,Alaska Big Stick Campfire Kahuna Big Stick Campfire Kahuna Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 58,321 Paradise,Alaska Them that cain't,must plagiarize. Congratulations?!? Pardon my shooting it all and then some. Hint.................... Brad says: "Can't fault Rick for his pity letting you back on the fire... but pity it was and remains. Nothing more, nothing less. A sad little man in a sad little dream."

Re: What .223 Rem? tzone #13879801 06/07/19 Joined: Sep 2009 Posts: 41,951 Huntn/Fishn Heaven-NW Ontario New_2_99s Campfire 'Bwana New_2_99s Campfire 'Bwana Joined: Sep 2009 Posts: 41,951 Huntn/Fishn Heaven-NW Ontario Tom, doesn't JackHammer already have a .223 ? Swap ya 7x57 for his .223 ! Paul. "Kids who grow up hunting, fishing & trapping, do not mug little old Ladies"

Re: What .223 Rem? tzone #13879821 06/07/19 Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 58,321 Paradise,Alaska Big Stick Campfire Kahuna Big Stick Campfire Kahuna Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 58,321 Paradise,Alaska Only "fair",to give them who must plagiarize...even more Splendid Pixels. Might be a Montucky in there too. LAUGHING! Hint.................... Brad says: "Can't fault Rick for his pity letting you back on the fire... but pity it was and remains. Nothing more, nothing less. A sad little man in a sad little dream."

Re: What .223 Rem? New_2_99s #13880131 06/07/19 Joined: Feb 2004 Posts: 46,745 Just The Tip T tzone OP Campfire 'Bwana OP tzone Campfire 'Bwana T Joined: Feb 2004 Posts: 46,745 Just The Tip Originally Posted by New_2_99s Tom, doesn't JackHammer already have a .223 ? Swap ya 7x57 for his .223 ! His is a Ruger American. I'm not swappin for that. LOL Camp is where you make it.

Re: What .223 Rem? tzone #13880423 06/07/19 Joined: Sep 2009 Posts: 41,951 Huntn/Fishn Heaven-NW Ontario New_2_99s Campfire 'Bwana New_2_99s Campfire 'Bwana Joined: Sep 2009 Posts: 41,951 Huntn/Fishn Heaven-NW Ontario You make good trade Kemosabe !! Paul. "Kids who grow up hunting, fishing & trapping, do not mug little old Ladies"

Re: What .223 Rem? devnull #13886941 06/09/19 Joined: Jan 2006 Posts: 5,636 Cumberland Plateau, TN S Snowwolfe Campfire Tracker Snowwolfe Campfire Tracker S Joined: Jan 2006 Posts: 5,636 Cumberland Plateau, TN Originally Posted by devnull I think a .223 is one of my favorite calibers. It's very effective around the yard on coyote, groundhogs, etc. It's also the most economical caliber to load for when factoring in 5.56 brass can be had for close to free. I am quickly coming to the same conclusion. Every time I sell a 223 rifle it haunts me till I replace it. It’s the perfect rifle to keep ready for when a small unwanted critter pops out. Been shooting a reduced load of 12.5 grains of Blue Dot under a 55 grain bullet and love it. Very accurate and a noticeable drop in noise over a standard load My biggest fear is when I die my wife will sell my guns for what I told her they cost.

Re: What .223 Rem? tzone #13888138 06/10/19 Joined: Feb 2010 Posts: 17,927 1 16bore Campfire Ranger 16bore Campfire Ranger 1 Joined: Feb 2010 Posts: 17,927 1:8 T3 SWFA 10x MQ

Re: What .223 Rem? tzone #13892914 06/11/19 Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 58,321 Paradise,Alaska Big Stick Campfire Kahuna Big Stick Campfire Kahuna Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 58,321 Paradise,Alaska The Teeker Fhuqk Show,remains HILARIOUS. A 10x will bite,while a 6x simply cain't. Just sayin'...if it ain't an AICS footprint DBM,it's simply a piece of fhuqking schit. Hint................ Brad says: "Can't fault Rick for his pity letting you back on the fire... but pity it was and remains. Nothing more, nothing less. A sad little man in a sad little dream."

Re: What .223 Rem? tzone #13892939 06/11/19 Joined: Feb 2010 Posts: 17,927 1 16bore Campfire Ranger 16bore Campfire Ranger 1 Joined: Feb 2010 Posts: 17,927 What factory box has room to kiss 75’s?

Re: What .223 Rem? tzone #13892948 06/11/19 Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 58,321 Paradise,Alaska Big Stick Campfire Kahuna Big Stick Campfire Kahuna Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 58,321 Paradise,Alaska Every fhuqking one that is AICS DBM footprinted. Have you ever "seen" or "touched" and AICS 223 DBM?!? Laughing! Congratulations?!? What Factory box is fhuqking schittier than a Teeker? None. Hint. Feel free to wax eloquent upon "all" that you've "used". Bless your heart. LAUGHING! Hint.................... Brad says: "Can't fault Rick for his pity letting you back on the fire... but pity it was and remains. Nothing more, nothing less. A sad little man in a sad little dream."

Re: What .223 Rem? tzone #13892968 06/11/19 Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 58,321 Paradise,Alaska Big Stick Campfire Kahuna Big Stick Campfire Kahuna Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 58,321 Paradise,Alaska 1000 Fhuqking Words On 223 DBM's 'Course I'm fhuqking sandbagging and shoot a bunch more platforms than that. HINT....................... Brad says: "Can't fault Rick for his pity letting you back on the fire... but pity it was and remains. Nothing more, nothing less. A sad little man in a sad little dream."

Re: What .223 Rem? tzone #13892985 06/11/19 Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 58,321 Paradise,Alaska Big Stick Campfire Kahuna Big Stick Campfire Kahuna Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 58,321 Paradise,Alaska EXTRY 1000 Words On AICS DBM Virtues RINK RE-HINT............... Brad says: "Can't fault Rick for his pity letting you back on the fire... but pity it was and remains. Nothing more, nothing less. A sad little man in a sad little dream."

Re: What .223 Rem? tzone #13893001 06/11/19 Joined: Jan 2010 Posts: 13,125 Willamette Valley, Oregon P Pharmseller Campfire Outfitter Pharmseller Campfire Outfitter P Joined: Jan 2010 Posts: 13,125 Willamette Valley, Oregon My Mountain Tactical billet mags work great with 75 ELDM. https://www.24hourcampfire.com/ubbt...-eldm-advice-in-a-1-8-tikka#Post13776147 P Obey lawful commands. Video interactions. Hold bad cops accountable. Problem solved. ~Molɔ̀ːn Labé Skýla~ Member #547 Join date 3/09/2001

Re: What .223 Rem? tzone #13893005 06/11/19 Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 58,321 Paradise,Alaska Big Stick Campfire Kahuna Big Stick Campfire Kahuna Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 58,321 Paradise,Alaska They are fhuqking junk. Hint.................. Brad says: "Can't fault Rick for his pity letting you back on the fire... but pity it was and remains. Nothing more, nothing less. A sad little man in a sad little dream."

Re: What .223 Rem? tzone #13893659 06/12/19 Joined: May 2008 Posts: 3,681 4 43Shooter Campfire Tracker 43Shooter Campfire Tracker 4 Joined: May 2008 Posts: 3,681 I've never owned a Kimber but the quality of my CZ 527, 18&1/2" barrel carbine with useable open sights seems pretty good. It's light, handy and routinely accurate with good bluing and decent checkered walnut. Mine's never been bedded or free floated but it's accuracy would seem to indicate quality stock inletting and a good barrel. It's not a pencil barrel so it's shot some, IMO, very good 5 shot groups with a 2-7x33 scope and old eyes. NEGC make a receiver sight that fits the integral scope base. Some things I don't like about it are the backwards safety, the scope could mount a little lower and the set trigger was rough. I ended up adjusting out the set trigger and it was fine. It's not perfect but the quality's there for considerably less than a Kimber.

Re: What .223 Rem? tzone #13893680 06/12/19 Joined: Dec 2016 Posts: 5,495 Wind River Wyoming S szihn Campfire Tracker szihn Campfire Tracker S Joined: Dec 2016 Posts: 5,495 Wind River Wyoming If I were to get a bolt action 223 I would start and stop at the CZ 527. From what I see on the market today the CZ pleases me more than any other I know of. Light, slim, accurate, reliable and comes with a set trigger and a striker blocking safety. Anyway.............that's my vote.

Re: What .223 Rem? Big Stick #13893728 06/12/19 Joined: Apr 2004 Posts: 42,722 Southern Oregon USA S Seafire Campfire 'Bwana Seafire Campfire 'Bwana S Joined: Apr 2004 Posts: 42,722 Southern Oregon USA Originally Posted by Big Stick They are fhuqking junk. Hint.................. Schtick pollution..... "Minus the killings, Washington has one of the lowest crime rates in the Country" Marion Barry, Mayor of Wash DC “Owning guns is not a right. If it were a right, it would be in the Constitution.” ~Alexandria Ocasio Cortez

Re: What .223 Rem? 43Shooter #13893771 06/12/19 Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 58,321 Paradise,Alaska Big Stick Campfire Kahuna Big Stick Campfire Kahuna Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 58,321 Paradise,Alaska Originally Posted by 43Shooter I've never owned a Kimber but the quality of my CZ 527, 18&1/2" barrel carbine with useable open sights seems pretty good. It's light, handy and routinely accurate with good bluing and decent checkered walnut. Mine's never been bedded or free floated but it's accuracy would seem to indicate quality stock inletting and a good barrel. It's not a pencil barrel so it's shot some, IMO, very good 5 shot groups with a 2-7x33 scope and old eyes. NEGC make a receiver sight that fits the integral scope base. Some things I don't like about it are the backwards safety, the scope could mount a little lower and the set trigger was rough. I ended up adjusting out the set trigger and it was fine. It's not perfect but the quality's there for considerably less than a Kimber. There is NOTHING redeeming in a CZ 223. Congratulations?!? Hint................ Brad says: "Can't fault Rick for his pity letting you back on the fire... but pity it was and remains. Nothing more, nothing less. A sad little man in a sad little dream."

Re: What .223 Rem? tzone #13893774 06/12/19 Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 58,321 Paradise,Alaska Big Stick Campfire Kahuna Big Stick Campfire Kahuna Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 58,321 Paradise,Alaska Poor poor Shefire,yet again at the mercy of her "means","abilities" and "comprehension". Hint. Congratulations?!? Bless her heart,for drooling. LAUGHING! Hint................. Brad says: "Can't fault Rick for his pity letting you back on the fire... but pity it was and remains. Nothing more, nothing less. A sad little man in a sad little dream."

Re: What .223 Rem? tzone #13961158 07/09/19 Joined: Feb 2004 Posts: 46,745 Just The Tip T tzone OP Campfire 'Bwana OP tzone Campfire 'Bwana T Joined: Feb 2004 Posts: 46,745 Just The Tip I pulled the trigger on a Kimber Montana in .223 from Whittakers. Picked it up yesterday. I think it would be hard to find a better rifle for that platform and caliber. It should work perfect for what I plan to do with it, which is everything. LGS couldn't comprehend they kill deer dead as well as anything. Camp is where you make it.

Re: What .223 Rem? tzone #13961274 07/09/19 Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 3,032 N n8dawg6 Campfire Tracker n8dawg6 Campfire Tracker N Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 3,032 Originally Posted by tzone I pulled the trigger on a Kimber Montana in .223 from Whittakers. Picked it up yesterday. I think it would be hard to find a better rifle for that platform and caliber. It should work perfect for what I plan to do with it, which is everything. LGS couldn't comprehend they kill deer dead as well as anything. you gonna like it. Uber Demanding Rifle Aficionado

Re: What .223 Rem? tzone #13961677 07/09/19 Joined: Feb 2004 Posts: 46,745 Just The Tip T tzone OP Campfire 'Bwana OP tzone Campfire 'Bwana T Joined: Feb 2004 Posts: 46,745 Just The Tip I think so! Camp is where you make it.

Re: What .223 Rem? tzone #13961759 07/09/19 Joined: Dec 2004 Posts: 2,104 S screaminweasil Campfire Regular screaminweasil Campfire Regular S Joined: Dec 2004 Posts: 2,104 Yep..........great choice. I have one and look forward to it becoming my primary coyote calling rifle. It is a friggen hammer with 40gr Fiocchi Factory loads consistently shooting 1/2MOA, which is wicked Coyote medicine and can't reload virgin brass for the price of it. Looks like it's currently out of stock, but this place is awesome for Fiocchi 50gr and 40gr 1,000 round cases. https://www.sgammo.com/product/223-...x-polymer-tip-bt-fiocchi-extrema-ammo-22 Both Fiocchi 50gr and 40gr Vmax loads shoot 1/2 to 3/4 MOA consistently out of four different 223's I've used it in. Anyway, regardless of what you shoot. The little Kimber Montana .223 is a peach. I should buy another. I haven't loaded for it yet, but expect good things with Ramshot TAC and 75gr HPBT Hornady's. Too many irons in the fire for me to worry about loading it for a while. Last edited by screaminweasil; 07/09/19.

Re: What .223 Rem? tzone #13978738 07/15/19 Joined: Oct 2004 Posts: 26,483 Metairie, LA PaulBarnard Campfire Ranger PaulBarnard Campfire Ranger Joined: Oct 2004 Posts: 26,483 Metairie, LA Originally Posted by tzone I pulled the trigger on a Kimber Montana in .223 from Whittakers. Picked it up yesterday. I think it would be hard to find a better rifle for that platform and caliber. It should work perfect for what I plan to do with it, which is everything. LGS couldn't comprehend they kill deer dead as well as anything. Did it come with a complimentary pair of dice?

Re: What .223 Rem? tzone #13978845 07/15/19 Joined: Feb 2004 Posts: 46,745 Just The Tip T tzone OP Campfire 'Bwana OP tzone Campfire 'Bwana T Joined: Feb 2004 Posts: 46,745 Just The Tip No. But I put a leupold on it so.... Camp is where you make it.

Re: What .223 Rem? tzone #13978855 07/15/19 Joined: Aug 2010 Posts: 27,896 TN A alwaysoutdoors Campfire Ranger alwaysoutdoors Campfire Ranger A Joined: Aug 2010 Posts: 27,896 TN Ive located a like new Kimber 84M classic select in 223 . I should have it this week.

Re: What .223 Rem? alwaysoutdoors #13979321 07/16/19 Joined: Feb 2004 Posts: 46,745 Just The Tip T tzone OP Campfire 'Bwana OP tzone Campfire 'Bwana T Joined: Feb 2004 Posts: 46,745 Just The Tip Originally Posted by alwaysoutdoors Ive located a like new Kimber 84M classic select in 223 . I should have it this week. Excellent. I got one of the NIB rifles that Whitaker's has. I really like the stock. This thing should be a great little rifle. Camp is where you make it.

Re: What .223 Rem? Blackheart #14074077 08/24/19 Joined: Nov 2012 Posts: 2,078 Illinois D DrDeath Campfire Regular DrDeath Campfire Regular D Joined: Nov 2012 Posts: 2,078 Illinois Originally Posted by Blackheart Originally Posted by alwaysoutdoors Someone please tell me the draw to a 223 in a bolt gun? I own one and its fun, but do not see the high desirabilty. Economical as hell to shoot with both handloads and factory ammo. Can be loaded to effectively and efficiently take everything from rabbits and squirrels to deer. All that and WAAAAY better carryability/ handling and FAR, FAR, FAAAAAR less ugly than a stinkin' AR. What he said!

Re: What .223 Rem? tzone #14074394 08/24/19 Joined: Jan 2010 Posts: 13,125 Willamette Valley, Oregon P Pharmseller Campfire Outfitter Pharmseller Campfire Outfitter P Joined: Jan 2010 Posts: 13,125 Willamette Valley, Oregon Originally Posted by tzone No. But I put a leupold on it so.... That’s funny as hell right there. Keep us posted as to how it shoots. P Obey lawful commands. Video interactions. Hold bad cops accountable. Problem solved. ~Molɔ̀ːn Labé Skýla~ Member #547 Join date 3/09/2001

Re: What .223 Rem? tzone #14074453 08/24/19 Joined: Nov 2015 Posts: 14,288 E earlybrd Campfire Outfitter earlybrd Campfire Outfitter E Joined: Nov 2015 Posts: 14,288 CZ 527 if they made a 308 platform the same size and weight it would be a dynamite mountain deer rifle

Re: What .223 Rem? tzone #14075045 08/25/19 Joined: Dec 2009 Posts: 5,197 TX J Jeffrey Campfire Tracker Jeffrey Campfire Tracker J Joined: Dec 2009 Posts: 5,197 TX I’ve had a 223 Montana for several years now and I love it. I did bed the lug and tang and I adjusted the trigger, which the Kimbers are very simple to do that to. The 223 definitely kills deer, but it doesn’t leave a blood trail like the bigger rifles, IME. I’ve also found that they tend to run a little longer. My deer bullet in that rifle is the 70 grain Speer, which does well, but probably not as good as the Barnes bullets that everybody loves. This particular rifle shoots 55 grain SGK, 65 grain SGK and the 70 Speer very well and all to the same POI at 100 yards. The 55 grain loads make very nice, little cloverleaf groups.

Re: What .223 Rem? tzone #14076309 08/25/19 Joined: Aug 2010 Posts: 27,896 TN A alwaysoutdoors Campfire Ranger alwaysoutdoors Campfire Ranger A Joined: Aug 2010 Posts: 27,896 TN I put a 3-9x40 Zeiss Conquest on the Kimber 84M Select 223. I sighted it in with some cheap ball ammo. Man, that is a fun little rifle!

Re: What .223 Rem? tzone #14078130 08/26/19 Joined: May 2008 Posts: 3,681 4 43Shooter Campfire Tracker 43Shooter Campfire Tracker 4 Joined: May 2008 Posts: 3,681 I've had a lot of 223s. I'm thinking my older, 2002, walnut, blue steel, 1-12, CZ 527 Carbine will be the last one. It's light and handy, never needed bedding and is very accurate (5 shot groups) with 40 & 50 gr bullets.

Re: What .223 Rem? Big Stick #14078780 08/26/19 Joined: Jun 2005 Posts: 9,374 Alabama TnBigBore Campfire Outfitter TnBigBore Campfire Outfitter Joined: Jun 2005 Posts: 9,374 Alabama Originally Posted by Big Stick Only "fair",to give them who must plagiarize...even more Splendid Pixels. Might be a Montucky in there too. LAUGHING! Hint.................... The exit wound must be on the other side of the fish. Always remember that you are unique, just like everyone else.

Re: What .223 Rem? alwaysoutdoors #14103904 09/05/19 Joined: Jan 2012 Posts: 6,777 SE Neb R rainierrifleco Campfire Tracker rainierrifleco Campfire Tracker R Joined: Jan 2012 Posts: 6,777 SE Neb Originally Posted by alwaysoutdoors Someone please tell me the draw to a 223 in a bolt gun? I own one and its fun, but do not see the high desirabilty. I feel exactly opposite...around the farm the ar platform just doesn't work....my every day gun is a ruger boat paddle 223... There is no way an ar 15 could do its job.. It rides around in trucks combines and tractors for months on end and lives it's life in the dirt...when I need it always goes bang....the AR is hard for me to aim and handle in truck /tractor conditions..somtimes it needs precision accuracy for a rabbit or coon or possum?.long range coyotes or short quick shots on coyotes...

Re: What .223 Rem? rainierrifleco #14104131 09/05/19 Joined: Aug 2010 Posts: 27,896 TN A alwaysoutdoors Campfire Ranger alwaysoutdoors Campfire Ranger A Joined: Aug 2010 Posts: 27,896 TN Originally Posted by rainierrifleco Originally Posted by alwaysoutdoors Someone please tell me the draw to a 223 in a bolt gun? I own one and its fun, but do not see the high desirabilty. I feel exactly opposite...around the farm the ar platform just doesn't work....my every day gun is a ruger boat paddle 223... There is no way an ar 15 could do its job.. It rides around in trucks combines and tractors for months on end and lives it's life in the dirt...when I need it always goes bang....the AR is hard for me to aim and handle in truck /tractor conditions..somtimes it needs precision accuracy for a rabbit or coon or possum?.long range coyotes or short quick shots on coyotes... i swapped guns. Im coming around now.

Re: What .223 Rem? tzone #14104542 09/06/19 Joined: Mar 2011 Posts: 165 R RowdyYates Campfire Member RowdyYates Campfire Member R Joined: Mar 2011 Posts: 165 Look no further than the Classifieds section here: A Remington LVSF in .223. (No connection to the seller). I have two in different chamberings. These were some of the last “good” rifles Remington produced. Last edited by RowdyYates; 09/06/19.