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62 fusion is a really good bullet, I did not know they would work well out of a pistol barrel. Its not cheap over a $1.00 a round. Anyone know where they might sell bulk bullets (components) of the 62 grain fusion??


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Starting velocity,ain't arrival velocity,thus the penchant to add BC to the equation...to retain same.

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The 62 grain bonded Nosler can't be all that different from the 62 Fusion, can it?


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Thanks guys.

Jimmy, at one time Rocky mountain reloading sold the fusion bullet as a component at a really good price.

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Dude, they seem to be out of them now.


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When we authorized 10.5” barrels we switched to 75graim Gold Dots to ensure expansion at 300 yards. The Speer loaf is very accurate as well.


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Dude, they seem to be out of them now.



They were over runs rather than pulled. I believe that they were selling at 0.13$/bullet. I hope can dig some more up.

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several of my 16.5 inch guns are zeroed with the 62 grain fusion, amazing little bullet.


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Originally Posted by jimmyp
several of my 16.5 inch guns are zeroed with the 62 grain fusion, amazing little bullet.


What powder are you using?

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At an agency of immediate interest to me, earlier this year, a goblin pointed a pistol at several officers. A SWAT member engaged him with a Colt's Commando 11.5-in. at close range with issued Hornady 5.56 62 gr TAP BARRIER Item #8125C.

The result from a single, high center chest shot was straight down and out bad guy.

Here's Hornady's ballistics with a variety of barrel lengths:

62 gr TAP BARRIER

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I buy them preloaded as I cannot find a source for the component, seems like 26-27 grains of TAC, Varget, or RL15 would work if you could find em.


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Coldcase, wonder how that bullet performs at 200 yards?? I think most of them close up at 2700 FPS to 100 yards would be fine, but if hunting with an ar pistol and I see a deer at 200 yards, I would want the bullet to expand. 62 fusion will expand down to about 1400 FPS based on what I have learned, this makes a 10.5 inch pistol work a good bit past 200 yards.


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Should not one expect to give up something when chopping a 223 to a pistol? Having your cake and eating it toowise?

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Originally Posted by 5thShock
Should not one expect to give up something when chopping a 223 to a pistol? Having your cake and eating it toowise?



Not really. Bullets can be, and there are bullets designed to be used from short barrels.

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How about the Sig Elite ammo (77grain)?

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Form,

Barriers are of minimal concern to me.

Coyotes on down I feel ok with any varmint bullet.

Guess I'm more concerned with the 200lb variety, but if that bullet will still perform on varmints and predators more the better

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77gr TMK, Speer Gold Dot 75gr, and probably the easiest Federal fusion 62gr. All will expand/fragment to 350+ meters from a 10.5” while penetrating at least 14”.


Have and do shoot a lot of 75gr Hornady HPBT, but below 2,100-2,200’ish FPS fragmentation/expansion is sporadic.




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Formidilosis,

1) 200lb mammals w/o barrier?

2) Same with barrier?

Thanks.



1) 77gr Sierra TMK

2) 75gr Speer Gold Dot.


Those are all good choices &, along with the 75 Hornady, minus the Fusion, are mostly what I use.

But unless one is a LEO or member of some SOG team, I guess I really fail to see the utility of a 10.5" over a 14.7", maybe even for them.

I carry the 14..7" regularly in a vehicle & have no issue at all with handling that length gun in that situation.

What more does the 10.5" really do for me?

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fits in a reasonably sized backpack pretty easy.


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Not an issue or even a major consideration for me.

Since it's not a gun I'd not need it for a quick-draw encounter & a 14.7" gun breaks down in a matter of seconds, goes together in a matter or seconds & fits in just as small a pack.

For a quick-draw encounter, I carry a pistol or two with extra mags.

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its possible though not probable that seconds might count sometime but its just a matter of preference and what your comfortable with, I am not adverse to a 14.7 inch barrel with a fixed flash hider making it 16 inches.


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Originally Posted by Big Stick
Starting velocity,ain't arrival velocity,thus the penchant to add BC to the equation...to retain same.

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You aren't going to be able to tell the difference in terminal velocity between any of the 75/77gr bullets out of a 10.5" barrel at game ranges. There's likely more difference in velocity between your individual rounds than between bullet types. I've seen ES over 70fps with a SD of about 20.


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