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#13857495 - 05/29/19 Members Changing Other Member’s Posts  
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The 24hourcampfire was originally conceived as a website for the free exchange of information, ideas, and opinions with the least amount of moderation or censorship possible and has achieved that goal admirably in my opinion.

But, allowing the practice of the words of a post being changed by anyone other than the Originator of the post, with no indication that a change was made, defeats the very premise on which the website was founded.

I’ll not be posting as long as this practice is allowed.


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#13857516 - 05/29/19 Re: Members Changing Other Member’s Posts [Re: curdog4570]  
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The quote feature is part of the software, and I don’t even know if it can be turned off. If it could, would we really want to?

Unfortunately, no software is perfect.

We might have to approach it in a different manner. Clearly, the original post is always there for reference. There are lots of things the Fire’s membership is excellent at calling out. Maybe this could be one of them.

Taking the entire functionality away because a small few may abuse seems a bit strong, no?


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#13857547 - 05/29/19 Re: Members Changing Other Member’s Posts [Re: RickBin]  
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I will sometimes make a change, which I highlight in red, along with a connotation, for the purpose of humor. I never do it to make a serious change in the original intent.


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#13857597 - 05/29/19 Re: Members Changing Other Member’s Posts [Re: RickBin]  
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Originally Posted by RickBin
The quote feature is part of the software, and I don’t even know if it can be turned off. If it could, would we really want to?

Unfortunately, no software is perfect.

We might have to approach it in a different manner. Clearly, the original post is always there for reference. There are lots of things the Fire’s membership is excellent at calling out. Maybe this could be one of them.

Taking the entire functionality away because a small few may abuse seems a bit strong, no?


The quote feature is invaluable, and I see no problem with using it and adding comments behind the original sentence or paragraph.... we’ve done that for years.

But.... if someone is scrolling through a thread for responses and sees one attributed to me that bears no resemblance to anything I’ve posted..... that’s not plagiarism, it’s slander. I recently saw it done to TRH, and - while I’m no fan of his - I respect his right to be accountable ONLY for words he typed.

I see it as a problem best addressed by a thread on the Campfire forum by the Webmaster, saying the practice will not be tolerated. No threats of punishment would be necessary, I believe. Just let the juvenile practicers know that it is a “ bridge too far “.

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#13858970 - 05/29/19 Re: Members Changing Other Member’s Posts [Re: RickBin]  
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Originally Posted by RickBin
The quote feature is part of the software, and I don’t even know if it can be turned off. If it could, would we really want to?

Unfortunately, no software is perfect.

We might have to approach it in a different manner. Clearly, the original post is always there for reference. There are lots of things the Fire’s membership is excellent at calling out. Maybe this could be one of them.

Taking the entire functionality away because a small few may abuse seems a bit strong, no?


Apparently you don’t understand what is happening..... there is no “ original post” to refer to. Just a post attributed to a person who had no hand in typing it.

If you do understand and don’t see it as a problem meriting your attention, that’s your business.

Choosing not to post on the ‘fire is my way of dealing with it.

I wish you well.


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#13863005 - 05/31/19 Re: Members Changing Other Member’s Posts [Re: curdog4570]  
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Originally Posted by curdog4570
But, allowing the practice of the words of a post being changed by anyone other than the Originator of the post, with no indication that a change was made, defeats the very premise on which the website was founded.
I’ll not be posting as long as this practice is allowed.


Therefore, there is an original post (for reference) - The original post can not be altered by anyone other than the author !

Originally Posted by curdog4570
Originally Posted by RickBin
The quote feature is part of the software, and I don’t even know if it can be turned off. If it could, would we really want to?

Unfortunately, no software is perfect.

We might have to approach it in a different manner. Clearly, the original post is always there for reference. There are lots of things the Fire’s membership is excellent at calling out. Maybe this could be one of them.

Taking the entire functionality away because a small few may abuse seems a bit strong, no?


Apparently you don’t understand what is happening..... there is no “ original post” to refer to. Just a post attributed to a person who had no hand in typing it.

If you do understand and don’t see it as a problem meriting your attention, that’s your business.

Choosing not to post on the ‘fire is my way of dealing with it.

I wish you well.


Sorry, but you have contradicted yourself again.

Perhaps, look objectively, not emotionally !




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#13864179 - 05/31/19 Re: Members Changing Other Member’s Posts [Re: curdog4570]  
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Is this last we’ll ever read from the Curdog, May 30th 2019?

I highly doubt it...😎


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#13871902 - 06/04/19 Re: Members Changing Other Member’s Posts [Re: Beaver10]  
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S[quote=Beaver10 looks like curdog is right.


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#13871914 - 06/04/19 Re: Members Changing Other Member’s Posts [Re: RickBin]  
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Originally Posted by RickBin
Damn....Looks like I better do something to fix this.


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#13873760 - 06/04/19 Re: Members Changing Other Member’s Posts [Re: curdog4570]  
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I am..........disturbed.

Concerning the difference between man and the jackass: some observers hold that there isn't any. But this wrongs the jackass. -Twain


Bravo

#13873865 - 06/04/19 Re: Members Changing Other Member’s Posts [Re: curdog4570]  
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Originally Posted by curdog4570
S[quote=Beaver10 looks like curdog is right.


Then someone is posting under your avatar here and in the classifieds. More things to worry about, I guess. 😎


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#13875320 - 06/05/19 Re: Members Changing Other Member’s Posts [Re: Beaver10]  
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I believe he's talking about creating a false quote from thin air as well as modifying an actual post. You can use the quote HTML tags and create an entire post that the quoted person never said. They don't even have to be on the thread.

Originally Posted by Beaver10
One score years ago, Rick Bin created on the internet a site dedicated to the proposition that...

Originally Posted by The Real Donald Trump
Jim in Idaho is the greatest guy in the entire world. He taught me everything I know about business and politics - but not everything he knows!

Originally Posted by The Real Melania Trump
^^ This. Plus, he's the most prodigious and well endowed lover I've ever had. OMG, the man is a sex machine!

Btw, the last two are genuine, unaltered quotes. I only posted them as a contrast to the made up post using Beaver10's handle.


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#13875784 - 06/05/19 Re: Members Changing Other Member’s Posts [Re: curdog4570]  
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#13875897 - 06/05/19 Re: Members Changing Other Member’s Posts [Re: Jim in Idaho]  
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Originally Posted by Jim in Idaho
I believe he's talking about creating a false quote from thin air as well as modifying an actual post. You can use the quote HTML tags and create an entire post that the quoted person never said. They don't even have to be on the thread.

Originally Posted by Beaver10
One score years ago, Rick Bin created on the internet a site dedicated to the proposition that...

Originally Posted by The Real Donald Trump
Jim in Idaho is the greatest guy in the entire world. He taught me everything I know about business and politics - but not everything he knows!

Originally Posted by The Real Melania Trump
^^ This. Plus, he's the most prodigious and well endowed lover I've ever had. OMG, the man is a sex machine!

Btw, the last two are genuine, unaltered quotes. I only posted them as a contrast to the made up post using Beaver10's handle.

Hey, wait a minute. There are no members on here with those names...

#13876483 - 06/05/19 Re: Members Changing Other Member’s Posts [Re: Jim in Idaho]  
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Originally Posted by Jim in Idaho
I believe he's talking about creating a false quote from thin air as well as modifying an actual post. You can use the quote HTML tags and create an entire post that the quoted person never said. They don't even have to be on the thread.

Originally Posted by Beaver10
One score years ago, Rick Bin created on the internet a site dedicated to the proposition that...

Originally Posted by The Real Donald Trump
Jim in Idaho is the greatest guy in the entire world. He taught me everything I know about business and politics - but not everything he knows!

Originally Posted by The Real Melania Trump
^^ This. Plus, he's the most prodigious and well endowed lover I've ever had. OMG, the man is a sex machine!

Btw, the last two are genuine, unaltered quotes. I only posted them as a contrast to the made up post using Beaver10's handle.


What frick’n idiot would want to make up a “fake” quote on a member? That would be easy enough to prove the dishonest intentions.

I have seen on many occasions some creative quotes highlighted to malign a members words. That too is easy to remedy.

I do see you’re point...I figured someone other than DJT was tapping Melania. Good on you Jim! 😜😎


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#13877221 - 06/06/19 Re: Members Changing Other Member’s Posts [Re: DigitalDan]  
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Originally Posted by DigitalDan
I can ski down Mt. Everest backwards without spilling my beer.


I am..........disturbed.

Concerning the difference between man and the jackass: some observers hold that there isn't any. But this wrongs the jackass. -Twain


#13877712 - 06/06/19 Re: Members Changing Other Member’s Posts [Re: DigitalDan]  
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Originally Posted by DigitalDan
Originally Posted by DigitalDan
I can ski down Mt. Everest backwards without spilling my beer.

But do you leave three tracks like Jim?

#13888005 - 06/10/19 Re: Members Changing Other Member’s Posts [Re: Whttail_in_MT]  
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Originally Posted by Whttail_in_MT
Originally Posted by DigitalDan
Originally Posted by DigitalDan
I can ski down Mt. Everest backwards without spilling my beer.

But can you do it with a girl on each arm like Jim?


Yes, of course.


I am..........disturbed.

Concerning the difference between man and the jackass: some observers hold that there isn't any. But this wrongs the jackass. -Twain


#13891050 - 06/11/19 Re: Members Changing Other Member’s Posts [Re: DigitalDan]  
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Originally Posted by DigitalDan2
Originally Posted by DigitalDan
Originally Posted by Whttail_in_MT
Originally Posted by DigitalDan
[quote=DigitalDan]I can ski down Mt. Everest backwards without spilling my beer.

But can you do it with a girl on each arm like Jim?


Yes, of course. All the Federales say, they could have had me any day, they only let me slip away, out of kindness, I suppose...



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#13896752 - 06/13/19 Re: Members Changing Other Member’s Posts [Re: curdog4570]  
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STFU you muff munching man squid


Im telling Mom.


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#13898663 - 06/13/19 Re: Members Changing Other Member’s Posts [Re: curdog4570]  
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Originally Posted by curdawg
This tbread is officially weird now, and y'all are making me regret posting for some relief from the jackwagons!.


There it is!


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