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My god, the OP isn't asking about advice or equipment to take his kids to climb Everest or ice falls, nor is he asking about anchors or belays for rappelling. I've tied myself off to trees to recover mountain goats, but never bear and certainly never rappelled for one.
Gear suitable for that kind of thing is total overkill in both weight and utility for bear hunting on wet, grassy hillsides. A blow up doll would be more useful than that kind of gear....
Not that there's anything wrong with packing one of those along.... Yeah but, but, but he may need to forecast a Spring Avalanche you know! SJ knows all.
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Not sure I've ever put spikes on for a fall bear hunt, but could see it happening. If you get up in the steep stuff, and there has been a freeze, you will be sliding on dead pushki, which is about like teflon goose poop.
Bender, my experience with the Microspikes was following a buddy that had them in the brooks when we got about 6" of fresh snow. We sidehilled about a mile and a half out of a canyon we were checking, and his spikes kept slipping off the side of his boots. I was still jealous of his traction, as I was sliding all over the place, and took a couple good falls. So when I got back and did a little research, the strap across the top of the foot and the more significant "plate" in the sole were the main features that sold me.
You can certainly slip them off on an extended sidehill, but they seem to stick to the feet better than what I saw of the microspikes. I also wouldn't be surprised if the microspikes of today were somewhat different than what I saw, as that was...7 years ago now? Which Hillsound did you get?
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I think they are the "trail crampons". If buying again, and without owning the KTS, I'd look at the "trail pro". Balling is a real bummer when the conditions are right, which they frequently are here.
I kept them tied to a set of bunnies right by the front door for a couple winters, but replaced them with less aggressive ice grips last year.
Brad, those Salewa's are cool, and so is the axe.
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Thanks. I’ve used the kahtoolas around here feeding when the yaktrax can’t grab enough.
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My god, the OP isn't asking about advice or equipment to take his kids to climb Everest or ice falls, nor is he asking about anchors or belays for rappelling. I've tied myself off to trees to recover mountain goats, but never bear and certainly never rappelled for one.
Gear suitable for that kind of thing is total overkill in both weight and utility for bear hunting on wet, grassy hillsides. A blow up doll would be more useful than that kind of gear....
Not that there's anything wrong with packing one of those along.... Yeah but, but, but he may need to forecast a Spring Avalanche you know! SJ knows all. Nope...just more than you. O B V I O U S. Check your blood pressure, flatlander. In your area, unlikely you'll experience an avalanche with that really long telephoto shot you posted, but if you do...buh bye. BTW, how do you keep all your gear looking like you JUST bought it????? NO wear and tear or what do they call it in your hills...use?
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Pretty amazing. I've packed out on my back, somewhere around 20 elk, 4-5 sheep and several mulie bucks in beargrass, deadfall and steep shale slopes(35-45 degrees) all while wearing MicroSpikes.
Didn't realize I was doing it all wrong and could have killed myself.
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Friggin ponytail-wearing, high blood pressure flatlander 
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Pretty amazing. I've packed out on my back, somewhere around 20 elk, 4-5 sheep and several mulie bucks in beargrass, deadfall and steep shale slopes(35-45 degrees) all while wearing MicroSpikes.
Didn't realize I was doing it all wrong and could have killed myself.
Thank God for the Sheriff to set me straight. Unlike me, you're not a woman, girl, flatlander, or fat-azz lib  But at least the Sheriff is not angry...
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For the original post query: I'd take Kahtoola Micro-spikes or equivalent.
I wear Kathtoola microspikes for nearly everything in the woods nowadays, whether Fall goats, accessing winter steelhead slick mud river banks, predator calling or picking berries in summer. I am heading out today to pick our little Cascade blackberries and will put on the microspikes when I leave the logging road. I wear them more on wet wood in the PNW than I do on snow or ice, and use them year round.
I have instep crampons and full crampons as well. You gotta be careful not to spike yourself with the longer spikes. A friend who hunts BIG bucks in the incredibly steep grassy avalanche chutes in the North Cascades along the Canadian border got me started using instep cramps and I graduated to Kahtoola's for most uses.
I am on my second pair, after finally wearing out my first set of Kahtoolas. They lasted five or six years of heavy year round use. The newer model, purchased last summer, is lighter and work a little better.
In certain snow conditions just at freezing temps, snow will pack the spikes full, not a real common event IME but you have to whack or kick the snow loose or you slip. Also, the left side only of my my earlier Kahtoolas would slowly twist around on my boot, requiring adjusting every ten or 15 minutes of hard use on slopes. It was caused by the way my left foot contacts the ground, but the new version of Kahtoola seems to have fixed that.
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Thanks. I’ve used the kahtoolas around here feeding when the yaktrax can’t grab enough. Krist. I hope you had an ice axe handy you flatlander!
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My god, the OP isn't asking about advice or equipment to take his kids to climb Everest or ice falls, nor is he asking about anchors or belays for rappelling. I've tied myself off to trees to recover mountain goats, but never bear and certainly never rappelled for one.
Gear suitable for that kind of thing is total overkill in both weight and utility for bear hunting on wet, grassy hillsides. A blow up doll would be more useful than that kind of gear....
Not that there's anything wrong with packing one of those along.... Yeah but, but, but he may need to forecast a Spring Avalanche you know! SJ knows all. Nope...just more than you. O B V I O U S. Check your blood pressure, flatlander. In your area, unlikely you'll experience an avalanche with that really long telephoto shot you posted, but if you do...buh bye. BTW, how do you keep all your gear looking like you JUST bought it????? NO wear and tear or what do they call it in your hills...use? Telephoto hmmm I only have an iPhone 6. Sorry as usual you are wrong again!
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Glad you came out of the gunfight with the bear in one piece...
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I wear Kathtoola microspikes for nearly everything in the woods nowadays, whether Fall goats, accessing winter steelhead slick mud river banks, predator calling or picking berries in summer.
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I am on my second pair, after finally wearing out my first set of Kahtoolas. They lasted five or six years of heavy year round use. The newer model, purchased last summer, is lighter and work a little better.
. Correction: my first pair of Kahtoola's lasted 3 years of year round use, not five or six. In my mind it seemed longer but I just noticed a note I made when I bought the second pair. In good weather when I plan to leave a trail, I carry them in my pack, available if I get into bad footing.
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