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Rats.

No argument here. I am surprised at your experience with the 140 HBT.

I ONLY had 1 lot of them and they must have been tough.

As you said Hornady & others have altered their bullets from time to time.
The 140 HBTSP I had would have made great Elk bullets in the 270 W.

Jerry

The 55gr IMR 4350 load is one I grew up with and shot for a very long time with the 130gr Hornady on top. I just picked up 8# of IMR 4451 and plan is to load it in my boys 243's and try it with some 130gr bullets out of our 270's too. Thinking of it as a modern 4350 load.

My rifle has a 22" barrel, I was not chrono graphing when I worked up to the 55gr 4350 load. How fast do you think its going or have you clocked yours?

I never clocked them. I had moved on to looneyism, with multiple powders and bullets before I ever owned a chronograph.

I have shot H4831 exclusively for the last 20-25 years. That is until recently when I have played with some Ramshot Magnum and Rel 26 with 150's.

My go to 130gr load is 60gr H4831sc with a WLRM and various monometals and the BT. It invariably clocks from 2950 to 3100 with most falling in the 3000 range depending on the 270 rifle I am shooting it in.

I have all the various 130gr bullets listed above loaded and ready to go. Most rifles will shoot one of loads MOA and most will shoot two of them. Because of that we have shot multiple deer/antelope with the T/TSX, GMX and BT. I am adding the Nosler E-tip into the mix this summer. Because of that I hope to add it to list of successful bullets used in our 270's.

Our list of successful bullets used.
85gr TSX
100gr AB
110gr AB
110 TSX
110 TTSX
110gr Sierra
130gr Hornady SP
130gr GMX
130gr BT
130gr T/TSX
140gr X
140gr Hornady BTSP
150gr Hornady SP
150gr NP
150gr Grand Slam

On paper I can add
145gr ELD-X
150gr LRAB
150gr Berger
150gr BT
160gr NP
180gr Woodleigh Marginal stability and poor groups in a 1:10.

My next rebarrel will be at least a 1:9 if not 1:8 because I would like to play with 170 Bergers and the 180 Woodleighs some more. Just need to get busy shooting the next 270 barrel out.

Thanks pard. I am most likely about 3050fps or so close it doesn't matter, ha. I don't like to shoot way out there, so don't/never have dialed in with anything, I'm a point and shoot kind of guy.

Shoot this load out of 2 270 rifles I own, 22 inch barrels. Both were in the 2950-2975 zone over the screens if memory serves. No matter, they killed very cleanly everything they were pointed at.

That's fast enough for me! I like to push Mono bullets fast, but cup n core just seem to behave better around 3K or less. I know that, looking at the data for my "most accurate loads so far", my .270 really likes the 2950fps range. I think it may be its sweet spot!

Most factory 130 loads were doing around 2,850 - 2,950 about ten years back, which may have been the last time I shot any factory 270s. The light magnum loads were closer to advertised velocity.

I would look no further than the classic 130 Hndy. and 60 grains of H4831 if you want to gain some velocity. This Jack OConner load has worked in every 270 I have tried it in.

A few finicky ones might do better in velocity or accuracy with R22 but not enough of a difference to have multiple loads.

I always start out right there Tex- since this rifle has a longer throat, I have better accuracy with 62gr with 4 going into .85", rounded group. I'm always pleased to get the bug-hole, 1/2" groups...but I know its rare. If I get even close to a consistent 1"- 1 1/4", I know I have an accurate rifle. Heck, I can remember reading when the "goal" of a good varmint rifle was 1", ha. But its fun looking for it, ain't it?

When I was shooting a 22" Ruger M77R, I used that load a lot at first, as I was using IMR 4350 in my .243 (and H-4350 wasn't invented yet), and DID chrono it in that rifle. 2913fps.

IIRC, almost exactly the same as the 100gr. bullet I was using in the .243. BCs were almost the same, so the drop "out yonder" was about the same, too. The .243 as also a Ruger M77R, but I doubt that has the slightest thing to do with it.
All in all, the two rifles/loads were all I needed at the time. I think it would have been smarter if I'd have kept them both and stopped buying rifles then and there. My rifle looney-ism has always been fairly muted, excepting rimfires. I still have that virus......

Jerry, I was referencing the Hornady 140gr. BTSP, as I have thumped a few deer with it. It shot well in factory ammo, but when I tried loading it for myself, things went "messy" real quick. The first deer I shot with it dropped like a rock, (lung shot), but afterwards, the next few deer looked like someone had hit them at contact distance with a Claymore mine. There was offal spread everywhere, over my head, in a circle about 20ft. around, and the deer was still alive, requiring a finishing shot. I literally painted the brush next to the deer. I think I switched to flat-based bullets pretty quick after that, going to an R-P Bronze Point, then to the Sierra ProHunters, which I still use.
I've also shot deer with 130 and 140 NBTs, but for the current rifle, it favors the Sierra PHs.

Someone "gifted" me a bunch of 140gr. Gamekings, and some of those 140gr. HPBT Sierras, but I haven't loaded any of them yet. I've still got a bunch of the 130 PHs loaded.

Rats

It took me a couple of minutes to understand the MIS understanding.

I was talking the Hornady also BUT should have typed HBTSP.......... instead of HBT.

That ONE lot of Hornady BTSPs I had were too stout on the bucks I shot with them. They opened but NOT enuff for my liking.
This was prior to 1986 so obviously I would think Hornady changed the jacket design.

No Harm, No Foul


Jerry

I've got a couple of old boxes of factory Hornady 130 gr SP ammo that someone gave me years ago. It's not the most accurate round in my Browning A-bolt Stainless Stalker, but the bullet gets the job done. I use that .270 primarily in the off season for shooting hogs and sheep. I used to shoot the 130 gr. Speer Grand Slam in that rifle and will probably go back to that bullet once I run out of my handloads with the 140 gr. Hornady BTSP. Both the Grand Slam and the 140 Hornady shoot sub MOA in my rifle, but I want to get a little more velocity out of that 22 in barrel so I'm moving back to the Grand Slam.

I have only shot 140 grain Hornady Interlocks for the last 12 years on deer, hogs with my 270 (average distance 200 yards). I have never seen a deer go more than 30 yards, usually DRT. Love the interlock. Looks like a bomb goes off in the boiler room.

I seated my 130 Hornadys from -050 to -030 off the lands, loaded another 3 with 62gr and they wadded up like crazy! Sweet spot found! I loaded some 150 NBT .030 off the lands too and shot some R23. Very impressive accuracy. Looks like R23 and the heavier .270 bullets is a good, stable load, if not the fastest. Still, 58gr give right at 2950fps.

I use 140 Accubonds in my 270 WCF, 270 WSM and 270 Weatherby. They hammer deer and pigs.

I used the 140 NAB in a semi-custom .270 I gave my Marine SIL. It was after his return from his first Iraq deployment. It was a simple, nicely blued Mod 700 BDL .270 but fitted/bedded into a beautiful marble cake English Walnut stock. I forget the charge/powder but it shot the 140 NAB into a small cluster! He killed one doe with it up on his grand dads old place, up in PA. Made a good memory for him.

Sounds like a beautiful rifle.

Nice thing about R23 is the velocity won't vary much over any temperature you would hunt in. A velocity of 2950 fps is pretty respectable, I think I was really stomping on it to get that with H4831.

I have used mostly 140 grain Hornadays Inter Lock and Interbonds and the Nosler Accubond in both the 270 & 270 WSM plus some 140 Barnes and they were all close enough so I didn't need to change the scope settings.. I think Jack OConner wrote that the 140s were for people who couldn't make up their minds between 130s & 150s. Guess that fits my choice of them.