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There's two different types of grip comfort, IMO. I'll agree that in static holding, the M&P feels more comfortable than a Glock. However, when firing, in sharper recoiling guns like the .40, the Glock feels more comfortable since the recoil is spread over the wider and squarer backstrap. I wish people would stop saying the Glock grip angle is "wrong". It may be wrong for them, but not for others. Like I mentioned earlier, nobody complains about the grip angle of a Ruger Mark-whatever or a Luger.
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Shot `em for 15yrs and wouldn't mind if I never saw another. Most overrated pistol in existence. Terrible grip angle and shape, coarse plastic sights and they're ugly as Pelosi. When I bought my first in 1991, there were scant comparable options. So many better options available today. In esthetics and comfort in the hand, perhaps, but not better in any other sense. As for the sights, the plastic ones are place holders. You're supposed to pick the sights you want and install them. TRH, You aren't "supposed" to pick the sights you want, it is a necessity. Gaston didn't design that into the gun for that purpose. Plastic sights are cheap and fit the concept. End user be damned. Which drives the price up even more for the knowledgeable shooter. Ignoring and cherry picking doesn't make the Glock negatives go away. It does shed light on a lack of experience and objectivity of the person banging the drum. I'm not anti Glock, I still own a G19 and a G20. I've carried the G22 professionally for years and shot a lot of government supplied ammo through it. I shoot Glock guns very well. With that said, they aren't magical machines that never malfunction or break. In today's gun world they aren't special in any particular way. There are lots of options on the market as good and in some respects better than Glock.
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Like I mentioned earlier, nobody complains about the grip angle of a Ruger Mark-whatever or a Luger. I do and it's why I no longer own one. HUGE preference for the 22/45 or Buckmark.
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Like I mentioned earlier, nobody complains about the grip angle of a Ruger Mark-whatever or a Luger. I do and it's why I no longer own one. HUGE preference for the 22/45 or Buckmark. You beat me to the post and I couldn't agree more. The Ruger Standard and MK Series target 22s are good designs with shi-tay ergos. I used to buy or trade for them and immediately start looking for corrective grips. I finally washed my hands of them. I have no time for troublesome guns, women, dogs, horses etc. Fit or get and don't lollygag around about it. The next 22 auto purchased here will be a Browning Buckmark or maybe a 1911-22.
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Getting back to the original question, if it weren't for Glocks, what would all the stipplers do for a living?
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My hero?? He's a popular YouTuber who reviews guns in a lighthearted and entertaining way. Do you have an issue with him? I mean, I don't like his strong support of the NRA. I'd rather he support GOA, but that's the only criticism I can think of for the guy.
You bring him up a lot. Really? What percentage of my posts mention him? I think the problem is that you have some issue with the guy, and can't stand his name being mentioned for some reason. Don't know what percentage of your posts mention him but I can't think of another poster who brings him up as often.
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He's a big gun celeb on YouTube. Why should it be odd if his name is occasionally mentioned on a gun site? What do you have against him?
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Hickock is a good shot and an affable sort. The guy must be a retired teacher as he sets his 'reviews' up to kill an hour of classroom time, including discussion. He bores me to tears and I never watch more than 5 minutes of his videos, fast forwarding like a mofo.
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And then there is Nut-n-fancy. Great information but long and drawn out.
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I've watched a few of Hickock45's vids. There is always good info in there, but good god, he can prattle on and on.
I haven't watched any of his vids lately, just too painful. If he would distill them down to under 10 minutes, I'd check them out.
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To stay down the Hickcock45 rabbit hole, it is kind of cool when he shoots something big and slow (think .45 ACP) at that big, distant gong. When the camera guy zooms in on the gong, due to the "compression of distance", you can often see the bullets in flight before they strike the gong.
Hickcock can stretch things out a bit much, but at least he doesn't try to be the expert some other YouTubers claim to be. There is one survivalist guy, who primarily reviews knives, that for some reason really sticks in my craw. WAY full of his bad self!
BUT a true delight is Kirsten Joy Weiss. Hotter than burning toast, but in a wholesome sort of way, smart, fun to watch, and she can flat shoot. She was shooting at an egg, 300 yards, with a .22, from STANDING!, and showing her misses. It took her about 12 shots to hit the egg, but I believe every shot would have stayed on a 10" paper plate. Scary accurate! Some will say she edits out the big misses, but I don't think so. She just doesn't seem to be into looking like an expert.
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Count me in as a fan of Hickok45
Seems like a good guy and he can shoot pretty good too
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Ain't hard to pick out the butt hurt glock fanBOYSZ .
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I got a Glock 19, 20, and 22 about 20 years ago and have modified them and overloaded them.
They would be a great gun for a cop and open carry.
Right now I have the Ruger LCP with laser in my shirt pocket. Can't put a Glock in that pocket, it would not fit.
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Its a shame that they work as good as they do, that's the only thing they have going for them. I rate G17/19 as good dependable SD firearms mine just work when asked to do so, OTOH the SIG P365 is a better CCW firearm than the G43 or Shield.
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I got a Glock 19, 20, and 22 about 20 years ago and have modified them and overloaded them.
They would be a great gun for a cop and open carry.
Right now I have the Ruger LCP with laser in my shirt pocket. Can't put a Glock in that pocket, it would not fit. Closest Glock to a pants pocket gun is the Model 42.
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I got a Glock 19, 20, and 22 about 20 years ago and have modified them and overloaded them.
They would be a great gun for a cop and open carry.
Right now I have the Ruger LCP with laser in my shirt pocket. Can't put a Glock in that pocket, it would not fit. Closest Glock to a pants pocket gun is the Model 42. I have the 42 IWB right now... Love this model
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I got a Glock 19, 20, and 22 about 20 years ago and have modified them and overloaded them.
They would be a great gun for a cop and open carry.
Right now I have the Ruger LCP with laser in my shirt pocket. Can't put a Glock in that pocket, it would not fit. Closest Glock to a pants pocket gun is the Model 42. I have the 42 IWB right now... Love this model You can wear that IWB all day and forget you're carrying a handgun.
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I got a Glock 19, 20, and 22 about 20 years ago and have modified them and overloaded them.
They would be a great gun for a cop and open carry.
Right now I have the Ruger LCP with laser in my shirt pocket. Can't put a Glock in that pocket, it would not fit. Closest Glock to a pants pocket gun is the Model 42. I have the 42 IWB right now... Love this model You can wear that IWB all day and forget you're carrying a handgun. You really can and with the the Hyve +2, I'm holding 9 Underwood XTP+P
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Don't have much use for pistols.
I am..........disturbed.
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