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Originally Posted by cumminscowboy
They have been sanctioned to death for decades. Some cruise missiles. And a few bombs would make a point.



Send your own fahqin' kid then.


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So, you want a war?



Wars are fought today, so there is peace tomorrow.





Uhhhhh............How about we actually finish up the ones we're already engaged in and not making much headway on before starting a new one?


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Send your own fahqin' kid then.




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Originally Posted by watch4bear
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So, you want a war?



Wars are fought today, so there is peace tomorrow.





That was the line when I watched my friends get drafted and not come back from Vietnam. I road on the bus with several on our way to the Oakland Ca Induction Center. A bleeding ulcer sent me home two days later. Others weren't so fortunate.

What peace have we had since WWII?

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What peace have we had since WWII?



We have had two chances to make this the US of earth, but we didn't take it. Don't know what to tell ya, we had our chance. frown


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I want a strike not a war, peace through strength

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It's sad that, apparently, a diplomatic solution is not seen as an option by either side.....

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Originally Posted by DBT
It's sad that, apparently, a diplomatic solution is not seen as an option by either side.....

The sanction argument I see here is laughable. They have been sanctioned for 40 years! Lol are you kidding me? All that does is push them to closer ties with Russia. That benefits the Russians. A massive tomahawk misslie strike needs to happen

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Cripple them financially and further destabilize their economy. There is already a lot of disgust from within on how the Mullahs are running the country. Young people in Iran nowadays don't want war. They want to embrace western culture. All that crap the Mullahs push on Iranian tv showing thousands supposedly demonstrating against the west/U.S. is garbage. They'd rather topple the Mullahs and have a thriving western style economy.


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Originally Posted by local_dirt
Cripple them financially and further destabilize their economy. There is already a lot of disgust from within on how the Mullahs are running the country. Young people in Iran nowadays don't want war. They want to embrace western culture. All that crap the Mullahs push on Iranian tv showing thousands supposedly demonstrating against the west/U.S. is garbage. They'd rather topple the Mullahs and have a thriving western style economy.

I think the youngsters of Iran already tried . They didn’t get any outside help. Hasbeen


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Originally Posted by local_dirt
Cripple them financially and further destabilize their economy. There is already a lot of disgust from within on how the Mullahs are running the country. Young people in Iran nowadays don't want war. They want to embrace western culture. All that crap the Mullahs push on Iranian tv showing thousands supposedly demonstrating against the west/U.S. is garbage. They'd rather topple the Mullahs and have a thriving western style economy.


I believe we are more than capable to phuque that up!!!


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Originally Posted by cumminscowboy
Originally Posted by DBT
It's sad that, apparently, a diplomatic solution is not seen as an option by either side.....

The sanction argument I see here is laughable. They have been sanctioned for 40 years! Lol are you kidding me? All that does is push them to closer ties with Russia. That benefits the Russians. A massive tomahawk misslie strike needs to happen


I made no mention of sanctions.

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Originally Posted by Ghostinthemachine
This should be on the kookista thread. 😂

Yes, an invasion at this time and for always the wrong reason would be kooky


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You can always tell a liberal. They want to change things by spending other people's money. In the case of cumminscowboy, however, it would be spending other people's sons and daughters.


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Originally Posted by watch4bear
The CIA has been there for years; it wouldn't take a lot to overthrow the mullahs once the back of the revolutionary guard was broken.


They remember life before Khomeini and Carter; and they want it back.







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The CIA is more Anti-American than the mullahs.


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The CIA is more Anti-American than the mullahs.




Then we better surrender immediately


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At this point they don't have the ability to strike much past their own borders. They have made it plain that they are upgrading their nuke materials towards weapons grade which is a problem. Once they cross that threshold it is a new ball game. We tried and couldn't prevent North Korea from developing the bomb and Iran will be the same story. Both those countries would use a nuke with little or no provocation and are almost subhuman in their thinking and value for human life. Once a crude nuke is built regional delivery can come in many ways and having advanced ICBMs aren't necessary. I say take them out while it is still possible.


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Try changing the thread title to "Massive presence in Iran 10 years after, why not?"

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Last justified war Americans fought was Korea. American dominance is falling. For example, circa 2008 American military budget was more than next 17 countries combined a decade later despite no decline of funding it's only 8 countries. China spends more than 250 billion dollars per year considering value for dollar you can multiply that number by about 1,5x. What have Americans accomplished in Middle East since invasions of Afghanistan and Iraq? If Americans go to another war their geopolitical position will decline even more to benefit of Russia and China.
War with Iran is possible. Democrats get almost as much funding from Military-Industrial corporations as Republicans. Based on Gulf of Tonkin incident and two faux gas attacks in Syria American pubic will believe anything they are told through official news channels. I'm not saying Iran was not behind recent attacks against shipping in Strait of Hormuz, but I would want real solid proof to point to who was responsible. Without such proof it's prudent to blame those that would benefit most from carrying them out.

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Our enemies need to fear us. Tightly focused punitive strikes/expeditions that make the world gasp at their ferocity would best serve. No nation building, occupation or other Powell Doctrine/neocon crap.

Everyone rightly bemoans the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan but the initial invasion of Iraq and the SOF/airpower attacks that wrecked the Taliban demonstrated a military capability and a willingness to act that stunned the world. Strike a mighty blow and leave the resulting chaos to that countries occupants to resolve.

It might take a few iterations but the world will soon learn that chanting Death to America is not the path to greatness. Never forget, Never forgive.


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Originally Posted by lvmiker
Our enemies need to fear us. Tightly focused punitive strikes/expeditions that make the world gasp at their ferocity would best serve. No nation building, occupation or other Powell Doctrine/neocon crap.

Everyone rightly bemoans the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan but the initial invasion of Iraq and the SOF/airpower attacks that wrecked the Taliban demonstrated a military capability and a willingness to act that stunned the world. Strike a mighty blow and leave the resulting chaos to that countries occupants to resolve.

It might take a few iterations but the world will soon learn that chanting Death to America is not the path to greatness. Never forget, Never forgive.


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Look at how much damage we did to Iraq during a 42 day air campaign in 1991. With improved weapons, we could now achieve the safe effect in about 10 days.


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