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Blaming Atheists?....It is not the Lord that giveth and taketh?....free will issued by God is what permits the wicked to kill.
surely God knew exactly how his plans would work out before the creation of the universe and mankind.

it wasn't mankind who cast down/sent Lucifer to be prince of this world, it was Gods idea with full prior knowledge of the consequences.

What If God had not made Adam so stupid so as to listen to Eve and eat the forbidden fruit?

if Adam had been fooled by the wiliest most cunning animal [snake] I could better understand...

Pussy has been the cause of most stupid decisions throughout human history.

LOL a lot for sure. Guilty on that myself.

Never mind Stalin, etc, who killed not on behalf of atheism but to maintain power and control....the bible tells us that, except for a boatload of refugees, God killed the whole world, guilty and innocent alike by drowning.

Thank you Jahrs....! Clearly we need more prophets!


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The problem is people confuse Religion with the life changing power of Jesus Christ.

Well said!

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Why? It's more fun to be a bad person. If there are no real consequences.

You sound like you are against a man, who has the most important job in the world, (what better can a man do than to try and preach the Word so that people like us can be saved from the wrath to come) who makes a lot of money.?
Compare that 7.5 M that Ravi makes to the 40 M that Joel Olsteen makes.
Follow the money and report back to me how and where Ravi’s money goes and where and how Joel’s money is spent. They are on opposite sides of the Gospel. One is the true Gospel and one is a false Gospel.

You make a great point.
Give it 7 more minutes today. He brings out a lot of points that have nothing to do with bible verses.
You didn’t even make it past the first bullet.

Lol.
Well the Problem is, some of the nastiest people I know are also the most religious...But they go to church on Sunday and repent and it starts all over on Monday as all sins have been washed away and forgiven.
We all know right from wrong and yet we still need a book to tell us what to do?
Can’t wait to really find out what’s out there after we pass.
And if there is a ‘god’ and he or she sends me to hell even though I was good person and giving me a free will to choose, then he’s a hypocrite and a dictator.
Believe in me or you will burn!!

Please prove this.

I think the problem with Christians is that, like Christ, they aren't afraid to point out deplorable behavior. That never goes over well. The whole "go and sin no more" thing really pisses people off.

See my above post.
That's an assumption that obviously doesn't hold up to reality. You should be able to see that from all the wars and genocides committed by atheists like Stalin and Mao, etc. and by all the abortions. Just to name a couple things.
A good argument can be made that God doesn't "send" people to Hell so much as they choose it. Free will. If a person is uncomfortable with offering worship and praise to God for 1 hour out of the 168 hours in a week, how would they feel about doing that constantly for an eternity?

If you want the proof than pick a sermon from each of these preachers and watch or listen and take notes.
If you have any wisdom at all you will see the prosperity gospel preached by Olsteen and the concern for your soul by Zacharias.
Follow the money... if you still need help seeing clearly I’d be happy to listen to the 2 sermons and have a discussion with you.

Amen Brother!




Well stated.

“For thine is the Kingdom, the POWER, and the Glory for ever and ever! Amen

Have you ever heard Olsteen say that all have sinned and come short of the glory of God and that we are destined to Hell unless we repent and believe in Jesus as Lord?
Has he said that God is Holy or that he is a God of justice and wrath?

Name it and claim it is not reality.

You left us Agnostics off your thread title.

"Oh, I don't reject Christ. I love Christ. It's just that so many of you Christians are so unlike Christ."

I don't know if Ghandi actually said this, but it is a very true statement. The reason the Cabal/Lucifer captured the World so easily was the fault of the Church/Religion. We have the Holy Trinity which all know about, but who knows about the Unholy Trinity? Or what it comprises of? It is the full knowledge and understanding of the latter that saves the Kingdom and in the mirror effect it is the lack of full knowledge and understanding that turns the Kingdom into a Hell.......on Earth.
One of the more recent drastic mistakes by the Church/Religion was giving up their sovereignty for a bribe. Around 1954 they began signing contracts with the IRS for 501C3 status (a bribe).
A bribe trumps any teaching of Jesus is Lord, it renders it noneffective.
2 Corinthians 6:14-18 Revelation 18:4

^non-Christians