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Originally Posted by 2ndwind
....The Screwtape Letters. It's a satire written as a correspondence between a head demon and his minion assigned to keep a human "patient" from Salvation and when that fails to rob him of as much joy and contentment as possible.

I found an annotated version free online here..... I first read this 45 years ago.... I still think about it fairly often.....

https://allnovel.net/the-screwtape-letters.html
Great book, even better website. I see the have Lewis' "Mere Christianity" and "The Problem of Pain". Both great works, but "The Problem of Pain" is especially good for those who rebel and are yet powerless to change their human condition.
As an aside, Chritianity is one of the few religious philosophies that does not promise to eliminate suffering.

https://allnovel.net/mere-christianity.html

https://allnovel.net/the-problem-of-pain.html


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Another classic my way or the highway sanctamonius religon thread.

So be good for at least 5 to 10 more pages.

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Originally Posted by K22
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Any Holy Bible that you want to use as long as there are 66 boks in it.


I'm hoping you are not serious.
What about the other 24 or so?


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Even Google thinks that 66 is the correct answer, can you believe that?

I listed the ESV, NSAB and the New King James as my preference and you are surprised at my answer?

The 14 apocrypha books were not canonized in the same way as the 66 (Genesis thru Revelation) were and did not meet the criteria.

The Criteria being

1) Was the book written by a prophet of God?
2) Was the writer authenticated by miracles to confirm his message?
3) Does the book tell the truth about God, with no falsehood or contradiction?
4) Does the book evince a divine capacity to transform lives?
5) Was the book accepted as God's Word by the people to whom it was first delivered?

66 + 12 + 80

What are the other 12 or so books that you are stating to be Scripture?


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Originally Posted by renegade50
Another classic my way or the highway sanctamonius religon thread.

So be good for at least 5 to 10 more pages.



You can go to St Michaels and buy some indulgences?


“No one in hell can ever say I went to Christ and He rejected me.

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Sorry Jahrs
Not the good ole 73 book Vatican approved catholic bible.
You beleive in what a English king wanted for a bible insted of the real words of god as sanctified from the vatican.

From what my branch of christianity belieives and instructs me to believe.
You are basically in some form of the protestant cult.

Just saying....
Do you condemn Catholics like we have been told to do with other religons.

Catholics are after all.

The one true faith.....
All others are false....


What are your feelings on that line of thought.
I honestly dont think that way myself, but throwing it out their.
But that is the mindset of many.

Turn or burn
Catholic, or protestant and its kjv spinoffs.

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Originally Posted by Jahrs
Originally Posted by renegade50
Another classic my way or the highway sanctamonius religon thread.

So be good for at least 5 to 10 more pages.



You can go to St Michaels and buy some indulgences?

Ain't gonna give a penny to a church.
God knows what's in your heart and mind.
It dont cost nothing for that.
And don't want a yearly round up sheet for it for IRS purposes either
for compensation tax wise for believing in god ....

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You could start doing a little 'extra' mission work by pelting the bums with quarters from now on.

Getting into heaven is not cheap anymore.

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Well RG I don’t condem Catholics. I do think that the church is invisible, meaning there are Christians in most churches. I see a lot wrong with all of them, some more than others. Sort of like I see politics, I lean republican because of their stance on abortion, 2nd amendment etc but corrupt to be sure.
Churches are and can be corrupt too and the way the Bible reads to me, I see more issues with the Catholic Church than say southern baptist or Methodist or Presbyterian but like I said they all have some issues IMO.
Here is what I see about the Catholic Church:
Confessing your sins to a priest rather than to GOD
The church makes itself equal to scripture in authority.
The church is the only interpreter of scripture
The church can guarantees a womb to tomb salvation.
The appeal is to the natural man because of the sacraments rather than a spiritual relationship with the creator


All of these go against what I’ve read in scripture.


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Originally Posted by Jahrs
Originally Posted by renegade50
Another classic my way or the highway sanctamonius religon thread.

So be good for at least 5 to 10 more pages.



You can go to St Michaels and buy some indulgences?

What's a good indulgence going for these days anyway?


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Originally Posted by Tyrone
I think the problem with Christians is that, like Christ, they aren't afraid to point out deplorable behavior. That never goes over well. The whole "go and sin no more" thing really pisses people off.



It always did me. I decided to leave the "no" out of it. wink


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.."go and sin no more"..


so whatifs one gets to the pearly gates and says 'I sinned no more....or any less' than usual.. grin



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Originally Posted by Starman


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.."go and sin no more"..


so whatifs one gets to the pearly gates and says 'I sinned no more....or any less' than usual.. grin



that would indicate consistency. consistency is a great way to plot or record behavior that remains acceptable.


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Originally Posted by Thunderstick
..Therefore it is unscientifc to reject the evidence of science when it points to the evidence of miracles.
Miracles are divine interventions with credible witnesses. .


Can you list some credible witnesses to particular alleged divine interventions and miracles?

Who decides their credibility and by what measures/criteria?

Some sheep brain folk think that A genuine christian is someone who simply attends church.
Thats how easily some are fooled by appearances.
but is that on its own a real measure of whether one has actually received the Holy Spirit?

Then you get a whole bunch of sheep brains attending a church, and they all tell
themselves that they are christians..(and even better Christians than the myriad of other christian groups)..
...Thats how easy mob illusion and delusion / self deception takes over people who want to start 'believing'
or wishful thinking what suites them.

The ONLY one I am aware of who can genuinely and infallibly identify and credit a real Christian
will be Christ at judgement time.


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Originally Posted by slumlord
You could start doing a little 'extra' mission work by pelting the bums with quarters from now on.

Getting into heaven is not cheap anymore.

Fugg that...
Quarters ?????
No way...
15 pennies have a good pattern.
God told me to keep my silver in the change jar for 7.62x39 ammo.

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You and yours are gonna die, stupid!

I base this on firepower alone.........



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If there were no Satan, there would be no dimocraps.

If there were no Satan, there would be no God.

If there were no God, there would be no us.

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Ecc 10:2
The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but that of a fool to the left.

A Nation which leaves God behind is soon left behind.

"The Lord never asked anyone to be a tax collector, lowyer, or Redskins fan".

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Originally Posted by jaguartx
If there were no Satan, there would be no dimocraps.


nor any christians....for it is the sick and wicked ungodworthy who need Christ, not the righteous.


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There are no righteous. wink

Why, because none a good.

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Ecc 10:2
The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but that of a fool to the left.

A Nation which leaves God behind is soon left behind.

"The Lord never asked anyone to be a tax collector, lowyer, or Redskins fan".

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It is not a question of 'rejecting God' because no form of God has ever come forward openly and honestly. We only have those who are claimed to be the representatives of God, the prophets and the priests, to tell us what we should believe....

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Who/What created god? After all nothing can just come into being without a "creator". there must be an even greater god out there. (I still have that bridge for sale)

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