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It will be interesting to see if Epstien was blackmailing his well connected friends.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...e-Jeffrey-Epstein-s-Florida-mansion.html

Bill Clinton's now saying that he knows nothing about it all in spite of the hobnobbing he's done with Epstien. I suspect that Clinton was a principle client of Orgy Island.

Im thinking it was a surprise the judge ordered this schitt made public which forced DOJ to act quickly to

1. Keep him from fleeing

2. Prevent him from Arkanscide.

Well yes, i guess with 26 trips.

And, im just guessing out of all those pics there are some with Epsteins (is that Jewrish, TRH) good buds, like the Clintoons.

After all, Julius said he helped hatch the Clintoon Foundation, did he not?

It depends what is, is.

Old joke:
Name three two-letter words that mean "small."








"Is it in?"

I would not be at all surprised to learn that Bill Clinton was the beneficiary of Epstein's recruitment program. I would not be surprised to learn the current President was in the same club. I don't know how many of the parents of the girls really cared at all. They may well have been paid too. GD

Trump knew/knows anyone that is a player in NY or most places. It is disingenuos to lump him in with Epstein.

+1.

Ain't nobody picking up stones......

As Joe Hoft at The Gateway Pundit was first to report on Sunday, an attorney who represented the victims of billionaire Jeffrey Epstein’s sexual assault said that in 2009, the only person that helped him was then citizen Donald Trump.

After the settlement was announced, attorney Edwards was interviewed outside the courthouse. He shared much about the case and then answered the interviewer’s question about whether Donald Trump was somehow related to the case since Epstein was a reportedly a friend of Trump


Question from reporter Derrick Broze: Our current President has had relationships with Epstein in the past and there are those, Katy Johnson and maybe other victims who’ve accused Trump of being involved in things like this.

In my experience, Trump supporters will not listen to anything along those lines. Obviously we’re not in the court of law here right now, but are those claims, although that case was dropped, it was dropped before it went to court. In your opinion as a lawyer, in your experience is there anything you can say as to the validity of those claims and whether there will be anything more about that?

Question from reporter Derrick Broze: Our current President has had relationships with Epstein in the past and there are those, Katy Johnson and maybe other victims who’ve accused Trump of being involved in things like this.

In my experience, Trump supporters will not listen to anything along those lines. Obviously we’re not in the court of law here right now, but are those claims, although that case was dropped, it was dropped before it went to court. In your opinion as a lawyer, in your experience is there anything you can say as to the validity of those claims and whether there will be anything more about that?

Edwards: Nothing at all. The only thing that I can say about President Trump is that he is the only person who, in 2009 when I served a lot of subpoenas on a lot of people, or at least gave notice to some pretty connected people, that I want to talk to them, is the only person who picked up the phone and said, let’s just talk. I’ll give you as much time as you want. I’ll tell you what you need to know, and was very helpful, in the information that he gave, and gave no indication whatsoever that he was involved in anything untoward whatsoever, but had good information. That checked out and that helped us and we didn’t have to take a deposition of him in 2009.

If I were an investigator, I would be interested in finding out who all these girls are, and where they are. Reason being, I strongly suspect ending up as a courtesy girl for a Clinton on the Lolita Express was probably drawing the short straw, and a ticket to a high dive into the Atlantic. Who are these girls, and are they all still alive?

I would be willing to cut a guilty plea deal that allowed Epstein to walk with time already served, if his testimony would result in the conviction of Slick Willy on the same charges and a 40 year prison sentence without the possibility of parole.

Could as be------Name three two letter words that mean "Really Big"

IT IS IN!!!!!!

Barr changed his mind.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/arti...lf-from-new-case-against-jeffrey-epstein

Katy or Katie Johnson will be the name to watch for.
If they find photos of her in the contents of Epsteins safe that was searched in New York, this thing will go on forever.

Katie Johnson claims she dropped her case in 2016 due to a series of threats, she was then accusing Trump of raping her at Epstein's place in New York when she was 13.

The following was her story.

Johnson conducted an interview, accompanied by Lisa Bloom, her lawyer, with DailyMail.com

DailyMail.com is aware of Johnson's real identity, but has chosen to continue not to name her, as she requested anonymity to discuss her claims.

She neither requested nor was she offered any compensation to tell her talk about her claims.

Johnson said her experiences in the summer in 1994 still haunt her today.

'As much as I try to forget about everything that happened, it always affects everything in my life,' she said. 'I mean it affects my relationships, I don't think I've ever had a successful relationship, one that I feel I can trust that person, there's always that mistrust.'

But she also said that in 1994 she had no idea who her attacker was and that it was only when she watched The Apprentice that she came to believe it was Trump, claiming that she could not forget her attacker's face.

She told DailyMail.com about how she first came to jump on a Greyhound bus from small town Oklahoma to New York in a bid to pursue her dream of becoming a model. She was just 13.

Her nightmare began, she says, when her parents separated when she was just eight and her mother moved them to Washington state.

Her mom then met a new man who was physically and verbally abusive and made her life hell.

Unable to cope Johnson says she decided to move back to Oklahoma to live with her father who had set up home with a new woman.

But life was no easier there either.

The one thing that kept Johnson going was her dream of becoming a fashion model.

She began to save money earned through baby-sitting for relatives so she could make a trip to New York to visit modeling agencies there.

She recalls: 'I got there and went to several modeling agencies but was told that I needed to put together a modeling portfolio before I would be considered, some wouldn't even see me. At that point my heart sank, I felt dejected.

'I then went to the Port Authority [bus and coach terminal] to start to make my way back home. There I met a woman on a bench who introduced herself to me as Tiffany.

'She was nice and told me about the parties and said that, if I would join her at the parties, I would be introduced to people who could get me into modeling. She said she helped girls like me get to where they want to get. She also said I'd be paid.'

Her account was that on that very first night, she met Donald Trump.

Tiffany said there was a party and she took Johnson to meet Epstein at a mansion on 71st Street in Manhattan, that had belonged to retail magnate Leslie H. Wexner of The Limited and was turned over to Epstein.

Johnson recalls that the house was 'filled with expensive things' and she felt out of place.

It is certainly true that Epstein held parties at the house, and that he is a pedophile. In the course of DailyMail.com's investigations, we spoke to 'Tiffany', who offered a similar account of events, but no actual evidence to back her assertions.

'Tiffany' also decline to provide her own true identity.

In Johnson's version, she told DailyMail.com how Epstein asked her to strip down to her 'panties' during an impromptu interview before requesting that she give him a massage.

Fueled by Tiffany's assertion that she would have to do certain things to make it as a professional model she agreed, she claimed.

Johnson claimed that even at that first meeting Epstein tried to have sex with her but she refused.

He told her at the end: 'You'll do, you've got the job.'

And that night at the party - which she says was filled with men and young girls - she would meet Donald Trump, she claimed.

Johnson acknowledges that she had no idea who Donald Trump was at the time.

But she claims that she would never forget his face and it was only years later when Trump starred in The Apprentice that she recognized the man she says sexually assaulted her.

That may be the crucial flaw in her story.

She claims the businessman, who in the summer of 1994 was 48, saw her and requested her company through Tiffany.

She said: 'He didn't really talk to me at all, he spoke at me, but he was talking to Tiffany more telling her what he wanted me to do. I thought he felt like he was too good to even speak to me.

'Tiffany told me what I needed to do. Anything he did say to me wasn't that great, like "you need some work". I was 13 I didn't know what I was doing.'

Johnson recalls how Tiffany explained how to sexually stimulate Trump.

'Tiffany explained it like it was second nature - like I should have known what those things meant. This night I was supposed to manually stimulate him and I needed to use a glove for whatever reason,' she said.

She added: 'And I did not know what she meant at first, I had only kissed a boy at that point, I didn't know what to do. She (Tiffany) wanted to give me a crash course, the whole time I'm not wanting to do it.

'But she's like, "that's how models get in to the industry", and if I wanted to be a model bad enough then I would do it.'

Johnson says the man she claims to be Trump said very little to her during that first encounter other than she reminded him of his daughter.

After Johnson finished the sex act, she claims, he made a comment that she 'wasn't great', before putting on his pants.

'He left, I don't know whether he went to another girl, but that was the last time I saw him that night,' she said.

Before she left the party Epstein gave her $700.

Tiffany then drove Johnson back to the Port Authority bus terminal and she returned home to Oklahoma in the early hours. During the long journey home she broke down in tears.

'I cried for a while, I didn't know what to do. I was in this dilemma,' she said. 'I can't tell my parents where I went - I didn't think they were gonna understand. It would be more than a grounding.

'I felt that I needed to go back and pretend it never happened.'

But then just a few days later Epstein's recruiter Tiffany called Johnson at home.

Tiffany told her she was mailing her a plane ticket back to New York, there would be money in with it and she also promised to set up a meeting with a director of a modeling agency.

'She promised to get me into modeling, to get me some gigs and organize my portfolio,' she said.

'I felt that at least what happened at the last party wouldn't have been a waste and at least I get to do what I came for.'

Tiffany had told Johnson to keep the encounters secret from her friends and family and made veiled threats that she might get hurt if she lets the secret out because she was dealing with 'powerful people'.

'Within a couple of weeks I was heading back to New York. Tiffany had sent me some kind of buddy pass for the flight and money for a cab,' said Johnson. 'I stayed at Tiffany's apartment. I remember she had a driver who would take us places.

'But when I went back there was a party that night. She (Tiffany) was basically ready when she drove up to the airport to pick me up, my plane had been delayed. I asked her if we could go to her house but basically I changed in the back.

'When I got to the mansion it was basically the same thing, kind of meet people, entertain people, walk around. If someone requests something of you then...

'Again Tiffany said I got requested and it was the same guy as before, it was Trump. And I was to give him oral sex.

'I had never done that to anybody so I was a little nervous, so I walked up to him and moved in that direction and he kind of slapped me away and said, "what are you doing, you need to put a condom on"'.

Tiffany ran over and handed Johnson a condom and apologized profusely to the man she claims was Trump.

'I felt very intimidated, he made a comment that I wasn't doing it right, that I needed to take classes,' she said. 'He continued to let me do it, he didn't tell me to stop. He said something to Tiffany a couple of time, "tell her to go faster".

'Tiffany was close by, then after a little while, I guess he was done with it and he went. I didn't see him again that night.'
Tears welling in her eyes, Johnson added: 'I knew it was wrong, I didn't want to do it, I was scared. I wanted it to be over.

'I was worried what my dad was gonna think, I didn't want him to ever find out, I felt pretty horrible.'

She was again enticed back to New York for a third time that summer with the promise of a photo shoot and a hook up with a modeling agency.

She claims: 'It was within a few days of the second visit Tiffany called me and said, "You've been requested for a fantasy role play". You could tell she was being pushed at her end.'

Johnson was told she wouldn't have to participate in another party because it was a private set up with another girl.

'I agreed, I got the ticket and I did the whole thing of "going to grandma's" again and got a cab.

'I got to New York and was taken to Jeffrey Epstein's house. I was taken to a room and it was me and another girl were cleaning and we would have an encounter and he [Trump] would come in.'

She described a sordid role play in which her and another underage girl were dressed as maids and she claims they were forced to 'make out' with each other.

She alleges Trump - or the man she claims was Trump - entered the room and feigned surprise at seeing the two girls.

Johnson said: 'Maria was around the same age as me, it was pretty obvious. I felt she was going through the same thing as me, in that she was being forced to be there somehow.

'So we cleaned and then very clumsily kissed and Trump caught us making out on the job as part of the role play.'

She claims 'Trump' ordered the two girls to carry out a string of sex acts on each other and on him.

'Again he finished and said we both could have done it better and then left. We never saw him again that night.'

She added: 'At that point, after these three encounters, the type of man he was, I thought that he was a creepy guy, a molester who wanted sex with these girls. He's older than my dad, I felt like he was evil, I was scared of him.'

Again she went home to Oklahoma in tears but there was to be one final trip to New York.

Johnson, here at right in her early teens with her sister, says her 'nightmare' began when her parents separated when she was just eight-years-old. Doubts are now being raised over the veracity of the claims when she canceled a press conference and dropped the suit

'Tiffany would call me and check on me. Then she was like, "Hey I have something", but she was like, "this is the time though, if you can do this we will set you up. You'll be getting a contract tonight".

'She didn't say what agency but she said I would be signed by an agency that night if I decided to go.

'I was like, "well what's the worst that could happen", I thought the worst had already been happening.'

'She [Tiffany] told me it was a role play but she didn't tell me what kind until I got there,' she recalls. 'And so I'm freaking out, I'm like, so you want to tie me to a bed and play out a rape scene with a man.

'It was just going to be that and that's what he [Trump] wanted.'

Johnson made sure Tiffany stayed in the room and says 'Trump' agreed reluctantly to allow her.

'He was pretty rough with me, I was already tied to the bed. I didn't really know it was gonna be that, he pushed me around and tore off my clothes,' she alleges.

She says she thought she would have to stimulate the real estate mogul orally or manually as had happened before.

'It was like he was going for one thing, it was basically to have intercourse and I started crying and I asked him to stop and I asked Tiffany to come over, but he kept on,' she claims.

Johnson, who says she was a virgin, said Tiffany tried to intervene, but she was pushed away.

She says: 'It was basically like he was doing it, he was like, "what did you think this was gonna be?" He was very abrasive and I just started crying and I screamed and said "please don't", and he slapped me and told me to shut up and then he ripped my panties off.

'He had sex with me without me wanting to. He was disgusted by the fact I was crying.

'He got up and started putting on my clothes and basically he was disgusted by the fact I was crying.'

Johnson says she recalls saying to Tiffany in ear shot of the man she claims was Trump that she could get pregnant because he didn't use a condom.

But she said: 'Trump basically said that I should be proud that he would even allow me the opportunity and if I got pregnant I could get an abortion.'

With that, she says, 'Trump' threw $400 on to the floor in her direction.

'Tiffany made clear she wasn't happy with him and then Jeffrey Epstein came in and he saw that there was money on the floor and got mad, he asked if I had asked for the money and said that he was gonna be the one to pay me and said it wasn't mine to take.'

Johnson said that Epstein also tried to have sex with her but she says she managed to 'fight him off' and he got really angry and made a series of threats to her.

According to the lawsuit Epstein also raped her on that occasion.

The woman identified only as Tiffany Doe in the lawsuit, a 'trusted employee' of Epstein's,' corroborated Johnson's' allegations in a telephone call with DailyMail.com, but she refused to reveal her full identity.


Katie Johnson 2016

Insert "Blasey-Ford" for every "Katie Johnson"..........

And if a photo of a 13 year old Katie Johnson pop's outta Epstein's safe they will be wanting to replace it with a photo of Blasey-Ford too...

Exactly! Sessions will never be forgotten nor forgiven for what he did.

Honestly, while I certainly believe that some bad things might have happened to this woman at the hands of Epstein, given all of the bullchitt accusations made against Trump, I would find it impossible to render an impartial judgement in any case against him.

This woman, rightfully (if she's telling the truth) is looking for some justice as well as a payday. Who better to get a payday from than a sitting, billionaire President who has had mud slung at him from the moment he announced his candidacy. He's just too easy a target, but their powder is wet.