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So, here in the Rebublik of Kalifornia, Governor Moonbeam signed legislation for lead ammunition restrictions that are fully implemented this season - 2019. Basically, that means no more lead for hunting birds in Kali this year. That sucks, because I love to hunt California quail. No more 7.5 or 8 shot lead allowed for the little bstards.

This has lead to a couple of things:

1] I have shotguns now that I can only use with bismuth. Bottom line: if I want to hunt with them in Kali anymore, I need to get up on handloading bismuth.

2] I have been forced to see the light on tungsten shot, and I don't know what is more eye-popping, the price for TSS and its variants, or the apparently much increased lethality. I guess I'll find out this year.

3] I may be getting into a new shotgun or two here pretty soon. It looks like with TSS, the sub gauges have a lot to offer.

It's going to be a "different" hunting season around here ...


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Once you have a shotgun that handles them, #6 or #7 steel will probably work well for you, they do for me on mourning dove. My hunting pard has successfully killed them with a 28 ga and a 20 is even better. He even tried steel in a .410, but decided that was a little too little. shocked

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OR you can leave the Republic................


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I'm surprised I haven't see a post on someone breaking a tooth when biting down on that stuff.

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Originally Posted by websterparish47
I'm surprised I haven't see a post on someone breaking a tooth when biting down on that stuff.


Lead shot hurts too.


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Bought some of the newly packaged Kent Bismuth that comes in 25 round boxes instead of the older 10 pack.

Not cheap but I don’t want to shoot steel in my older guns. I’m hoping more companies start to make ammo for us poor slobs in Ca.

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We are forced to shoot steel 6's on Crows before Nov 1 here. Crows have to be close.

I would pattern the shotguns for use with steel, IF you are on a budget. $5 a shot is way out of line for dove hunting.

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I've had no trouble killing most birds of all sorts with steel shot started fast.

The Kent Bismuth is pretty good stuff, use one size larger than lead IMO.

TSS is a game changer in every way, but the expense is so high it makes me cringe any time I miss (which is often!).


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