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A good example of what Dwayne is talking about (and the point I made about the possibility of Savage making new 99's in the gun writer forum) is this Model 64 Winchester .30-30, which I purchased from Whittaker Guns, the great store outside of Owensboro, Kentucky. That was in 2016, several months before the election, when firearrms prices were still high, thanks to the Obama administration. If my memory is correct the price was $750--well under the price of a new 94 rifle. And yes, it came with the steel Lyman receiver sight.

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Interesting as I bought a mint 1957 M94 30-30 when I lived in Alberta off of Canadian Gunnutz. This was 2008 and I gave $500 CDN for it.


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I paid 60.00 for my first M94 in 1977. It was a used post 64 in 95% condition. Bought from a high school buddy of mine. Sold that one a few years later and bought a 1949 long forearm model in very good condition for 95.00 at a pawn shop. Still have the '49 and have killed a bunch with it.

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I have hunted whitetail for several years with a mid 50's 94 in .32WS. Love how it carries. I have several 94's, including a 1918 rifle in .32, a real nice .32 carbine from the 50's, plus two or three 30-30's. I also hunted a fair bit with a Canadian centennial 30-30 carbine. I had a set, and my buddy would hunt with the rifle. The rifle was stolen.

I have a nice 99 30-30 takedown carbine. Sweet little rifle.


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Originally Posted by EdM
Interesting as I bought a mint 1957 M94 30-30 when I lived in Alberta off of Canadian Gunnutz. This was 2008 and I gave $500 CDN for it.

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Top of the morning to you sir, I hope all is well in your part of the world - though I confess I'm not sure if you're north or south at the moment.

As mentioned in my post, they've gone up a wee bit since then, by perhaps as much as $150 - $200 for the "right rifle" and the "right buyer".

Somewhere around 2000 I sold a 1903 vintage 94 rifle with a 26" octagon barrel and picked up a 1958 carbine that likely hadn't seen two boxes of ammo through it for somewhere either side of $500. Since it was an "extra" 94 in the safe, I just didn't do anything with it for years somehow.

Then on a whim, I installed a sight similar to John's Lyman if memory serves, shot it about 3 times to sight it in at 25 yards and then shot it 3 times at 100 yards to see how it grouped. I still can't believe how close the 3 shots were and it had to be some cosmic alignment of the planets Ed, because I don't shoot that well typically.

Anyway back into the safe it went until one day someone had a Ruger No 1 for sale and it went down the road to help finance the No 1.

Over the years I've had a recurring urge to pick up a 64 like John did or perhaps it's smaller stable mate 65 in something like a .25-20. Thus far, other more pressing projects have kept me from doing that, but I've got to say that to me the 64 handles "just right" somehow.

All the best to you folks as we head into the fall Ed.

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I don't know about the States, but these Japanese Winchesters haven't been flying off the shelves up here. I thought the reason was because they wanted $1900 for a reproduction. It makes sense that people would want an original.


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I hunt with a .30-30 at least once almost every year.

Wouldn't pay that for that rifle though.

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Originally Posted by Steve Redgwell
I don't know about the States, but these Japanese Winchesters haven't been flying off the shelves up here. I thought the reason was because they wanted $1900 for a reproduction. It makes sense that people would want an original.


They don't fly down here either, BUT, they do move.

IMHO, we still have enough of a lever gun market to drive a demand. Henry's product line has certainly expanded over the last few years, and they don't seem to be slowing down.

Inflated "Winchester" prices for old and new, limited Browning lever gun offerings, and the aging hunter market helped this niche grow.

Businesses like Turnbull's usually have a pretty large pile of overseas Winchesters in the store room waiting to be made into final products - for their product line, or customer requests.

Originals are becoming scarcer, and while we are seeing a lull in the market, haven't really lost value - as much as they aren't as in demand at the moment.

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Originally Posted by Steve Redgwell
I don't know about the States, but these Japanese Winchesters haven't been flying off the shelves up here. I thought the reason was because they wanted $1900 for a reproduction. It makes sense that people would want an original.
Winchester, more than a gun, an American legend......Made in New Haven Conn..... Not in Japan.

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Originally Posted by Blackheart
Originally Posted by Steve Redgwell
I don't know about the States, but these Japanese Winchesters haven't been flying off the shelves up here. I thought the reason was because they wanted $1900 for a reproduction. It makes sense that people would want an original.
Winchester, more than a gun, an American legend......Made in New Haven Conn..... Not in Japan.


Not sure if you're being sarcastic or derisive, but:

Originally Posted by Winchester's Webpage
production continued on all the historic rifles that were being produced in Japan.


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Originally Posted by T_Inman
Originally Posted by Blackheart
Originally Posted by Steve Redgwell
I don't know about the States, but these Japanese Winchesters haven't been flying off the shelves up here. I thought the reason was because they wanted $1900 for a reproduction. It makes sense that people would want an original.
Winchester, more than a gun, an American legend......Made in New Haven Conn..... Not in Japan.


Not sure if you're being sarcastic or derisive, but:

Originally Posted by Winchester's Webpage
production continued on all the historic rifles that were being produced in Japan.


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Those are just Jap made replicas as far as I'm concerned.

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Gotcha.
Figured you meant something along those lines.



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with the exception of a few nostalgia seekers, the days of the lever action is behind us. Once folks learned that making the first shot count is far better than having up to seven quick follow up shots, the bolt action became king of the deer hunting woods......and I suspect will continue to be just that.

My Browning M-65 in .218 bee is my nostalgia gun.....other than that, I can find no practical reason to own a lever gun....even though the old Winchester M-88 has peaked my interest, it's not getting good reviews on another forum.

I grew up with a Marlin M-39-A and a Savage M-99......I later owned a M-94 in .30-30 and a M-92 in .25-20. Then I discovered the M-70 and have never looked back


I respectfully disagree. I hunt often with a bolt gun or Ruger No. 1, but they can’t match my Marlins or my 99’s for ease of carrying and handling when long days on foot in the woods is the plan.

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Paid about $165 for mine. It works. Made here, kills stuff everywhere.

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A 30/30? Yes.
A Model 94? Yes
That Model 94, with it's stupid safety, angle eject, and built by robots? Hell, no! GD

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model 94 307 win..... love this rifle.
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I think you're all fibbing.

It's a proven fact that the 30-30 is an ineffectual, antiquated, underpowered cartridge, best left in a museum. The Internets is full of stories that speak of its impotence. I am genuinely surprised that anyone would even admit to owning a 30-30, or any lever! I am shocked!

Anyway, I have to fire up my melter and make some cast bullets. Let's chat later.


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i try to rotate which gun i use year by year so haven't used a 30-30 for a couple of seasons. but i would feel naked without one or three in my cabinet.
99 savage takedown 30-30
94 win 1951 30-30
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all have put meat in the freezer including deer, elk, and moose.
being as i can throw a rock into BC i felt i could post here

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Do I like to hunt with a 30/30 lever gun, heck yes.
I have a nice 1980"s M94 that is a fun gun to shoot and easy to carry.
Would I pay $1900 for the new M94? Not a chance.
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One of my many regrets is not buying a pristine 7-30 carbine that I found in the Gander Mountain store my son worked at. I actually put it on layaway, but after searching all over the web, there was almost no ammo, no brass, and none of the flat-nosed 7mm bullets to be had, so I let it go, not wanting a project to deal with at that time. Big mistake. Can't recall if it was an AE model, but there was no safety and to all appearances it was a plain 94. This was after they went back to quality manufacture and before all the annoying safeties.


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