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SWFA 10x #13970606 07/12/19 Joined: Apr 2007 Posts: 3,723 Baker, MT L laker OP Campfire Tracker OP laker Campfire Tracker L Joined: Apr 2007 Posts: 3,723 Baker, MT Putting together a 6.5-06 and am thnking about putting a SWFA 10x on it. How do you guys like the 10x for shooting out to 600-700 yards? Gun is going to be used on a lot of coyote huntings and also up to elk. Do you feel underscoped at longer distances with the 10x?

Re: SWFA 10x laker #13970616 07/12/19 Joined: Jan 2012 Posts: 1,004 Peoria, AZ P peeshooter Campfire Regular peeshooter Campfire Regular P Joined: Jan 2012 Posts: 1,004 Peoria, AZ That would be fine at those ranges and further, IMO. How do you know a Trump hater? They'll tell you.

Re: SWFA 10x laker #13970654 07/12/19 Joined: Mar 2010 Posts: 1,980 C Castle_Rock Campfire Regular Castle_Rock Campfire Regular C Joined: Mar 2010 Posts: 1,980 It is a fantastic open country hunting scope

Re: SWFA 10x laker #13970663 07/12/19 Joined: Jan 2010 Posts: 5,819 Montana 6 6MMWASP Campfire Tracker 6MMWASP Campfire Tracker 6 Joined: Jan 2010 Posts: 5,819 Montana I'm an old guy with chit eye sight and find a 10X just a little less than I want at that range on steel. I'm simply not practiced enough ( YET ) to shoot game at that range. I'm betting younger eyes will be fine with it, many are. More X's mo betta for this old man

Re: SWFA 10x laker #13970773 07/13/19 Joined: Nov 2018 Posts: 1,488 C Cascade Campfire Regular Cascade Campfire Regular C Joined: Nov 2018 Posts: 1,488 Originally Posted by laker Putting together a 6.5-06 and am thnking about putting a SWFA 10x on it. How do you guys like the 10x for shooting out to 600-700 yards? Gun is going to be used on a lot of coyote huntings and also up to elk. Do you feel underscoped at longer distances with the 10x? Laker - Am very pleased with the 6x SWFA scope a buddy prompted me to buy. Popped it onto my good ol' 308 Win, and use it often out to 600 yards or so. I was very impressed with the quality of the SWFA scope, particularly for the price. That 10x you're considering should be even better for the 600 - 700 yard shooting you mentioned. Regards, Guy

Re: SWFA 10x laker #13970782 07/13/19 Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 58,355 Paradise,Alaska Big Stick Campfire Kahuna Big Stick Campfire Kahuna Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 58,355 Paradise,Alaska Originally Posted by laker Putting together a 6.5-06 and am thnking about putting a SWFA 10x on it. How do you guys like the 10x for shooting out to 600-700 yards? Gun is going to be used on a lot of coyote huntings and also up to elk. Do you feel underscoped at longer distances with the 10x? For Utility Killing,I much prefer the 6x,for distances well beyond the 700yd line. I have a 6.5-06 Play Toy,that wears a 10x,but rides in a HEAVY filled A5 and S/S Matt bottom,etc. Straight Giggles Rifle and it's OK there. Flipside...I built a 223 Sleeper/Loaner as a Mind Fhuqk,to let folks shoot. Faux 5,Heavy Varmint in 223 SALAMI,as a LR Hammer and it wears a 6x. I've had lotsa folks shoot THE schit out of it,farther than they'd ever shot anything before and of course connecting as they please. When they are done,I say "you know that's a 6-power?!?"...which ALWAYS fhuqks people up and of course sells a LOT of glass. One buddy was shooting it at the 1450yd line,blowing his own mind and I had to peel tape away,to SHOW him the designator.(grin) 10x will bite you sooner or later,on movers or in the brush and a 6x shines brightly on all of it,giving up nothing at distance. 'Course nobody listens and alotta 10x's get pulled off,after them lessons have been experienced in the flesh. Hint................... Brad says: "Can't fault Rick for his pity letting you back on the fire... but pity it was and remains. Nothing more, nothing less. A sad little man in a sad little dream."

Re: SWFA 10x laker #13971489 07/13/19 Joined: Jan 2010 Posts: 8,423 Wa west 🇱🇷 F fredIII Campfire Outfitter fredIII Campfire Outfitter F Joined: Jan 2010 Posts: 8,423 Wa west 🇱🇷 I’d be embarrassed if I posted about killing scopes and my answer was about how I have nothing to add.

Re: SWFA 10x laker #13971508 07/13/19 Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 58,355 Paradise,Alaska Big Stick Campfire Kahuna Big Stick Campfire Kahuna Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 58,355 Paradise,Alaska Fredrica, Rest assured,your version of "knowledge","experience" and "results",takes STUPIDITY to new places all the time...you "lucky" kchunt. Congratulations?!? Start a Thread,if/when you can tell the difference betwixt MOA/Mils. Bless your heart for WHINING,as it's your ONLY "move". Hint. LAUGHING!................... Brad says: "Can't fault Rick for his pity letting you back on the fire... but pity it was and remains. Nothing more, nothing less. A sad little man in a sad little dream."

Re: SWFA 10x laker #13971541 07/13/19 Joined: Jan 2010 Posts: 8,423 Wa west 🇱🇷 F fredIII Campfire Outfitter fredIII Campfire Outfitter F Joined: Jan 2010 Posts: 8,423 Wa west 🇱🇷 Post a pic of anything you killed this decade fatty

Re: SWFA 10x Big Stick #13971549 07/13/19 Joined: Jan 2010 Posts: 8,423 Wa west 🇱🇷 F fredIII Campfire Outfitter fredIII Campfire Outfitter F Joined: Jan 2010 Posts: 8,423 Wa west 🇱🇷 Bear hunts so easy a new born can do it! Wow eat some carbs you are spinning.

Re: SWFA 10x laker #13971552 07/13/19 Joined: Jan 2010 Posts: 8,423 Wa west 🇱🇷 F fredIII Campfire Outfitter fredIII Campfire Outfitter F Joined: Jan 2010 Posts: 8,423 Wa west 🇱🇷 Laker seems people who know like a X per 💯 yards.

Re: SWFA 10x laker #13971578 07/13/19 Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 58,355 Paradise,Alaska Big Stick Campfire Kahuna Big Stick Campfire Kahuna Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 58,355 Paradise,Alaska Fredrica, Ain't it a hoot,that's there's room in your pointy head for both of us...you "lucky" kchunt. Congratulations?!? At least Whining is FREE. Bless your heart for trying. Hint. Laughing!............. Brad says: "Can't fault Rick for his pity letting you back on the fire... but pity it was and remains. Nothing more, nothing less. A sad little man in a sad little dream."

Re: SWFA 10x laker #13971584 07/13/19 Joined: Jan 2010 Posts: 8,423 Wa west 🇱🇷 F fredIII Campfire Outfitter fredIII Campfire Outfitter F Joined: Jan 2010 Posts: 8,423 Wa west 🇱🇷 Butt sugartits!!

Re: SWFA 10x laker #13971627 07/13/19 Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 58,355 Paradise,Alaska Big Stick Campfire Kahuna Big Stick Campfire Kahuna Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 58,355 Paradise,Alaska Poor poor(literally) Fredrica,can't even afford her own camera,so has to steal pictures. Congratulations?!? Bless your heart for WHINING. Hint. LAUGHING!................ Brad says: "Can't fault Rick for his pity letting you back on the fire... but pity it was and remains. Nothing more, nothing less. A sad little man in a sad little dream."

Re: SWFA 10x Big Stick #13971701 07/13/19 Joined: Mar 2018 Posts: 3,445 SheriffJoe Campfire Tracker SheriffJoe Campfire Tracker Joined: Mar 2018 Posts: 3,445 SWFA 10x is great at 800 yards. BTW, that little guy in the photo is too tall for his hair. Probably complains about it in bagel shops. Don't ask me about my military service or heroic acts...most of it is untrue. Pronoun: Yes, SIR !

Re: SWFA 10x laker #13971734 07/13/19 Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 58,355 Paradise,Alaska Big Stick Campfire Kahuna Big Stick Campfire Kahuna Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 58,355 Paradise,Alaska QueenJoe, You GO girl! Congratulations?!? Bless your heart for TRYING. Hint. Laughing!............... Brad says: "Can't fault Rick for his pity letting you back on the fire... but pity it was and remains. Nothing more, nothing less. A sad little man in a sad little dream."

Re: SWFA 10x laker #13971766 07/13/19 Joined: Mar 2018 Posts: 3,445 SheriffJoe Campfire Tracker SheriffJoe Campfire Tracker Joined: Mar 2018 Posts: 3,445 Peckerpole Stick, You TRY and FAIL to make up for your small size as a male with objects. Little Bitty Guy that's too tall for his hair, too. BTW, we all know you've never been in uniform other than as a maintenance guy or gas station attendant or you would be MUCH better at cussing. You would really fit in Anchorage, Seattle, Portland and San Francisco. Don't ask me about my military service or heroic acts...most of it is untrue. Pronoun: Yes, SIR !

Re: SWFA 10x laker #13971775 07/13/19 Joined: Sep 2010 Posts: 4,293 Bothell, Washington R Remington6MM Campfire Tracker Remington6MM Campfire Tracker R Joined: Sep 2010 Posts: 4,293 Bothell, Washington Sheriff, are straight jackets considered a uniform? I'd rather die in a BAD gunfight than a GOOD nursing home.

Re: SWFA 10x laker #13971778 07/13/19 Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 58,355 Paradise,Alaska Big Stick Campfire Kahuna Big Stick Campfire Kahuna Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 58,355 Paradise,Alaska QueenJoe, Weren't my intent to horn you up,but there is NO slighting your taste in men...you "lucky" kchunt. Congratulations?!? Bless your heart for CRYING all of them wellfounded tears. Hint. Congratulations?!?.................... Brad says: "Can't fault Rick for his pity letting you back on the fire... but pity it was and remains. Nothing more, nothing less. A sad little man in a sad little dream."

Re: SWFA 10x fredIII #13971779 07/13/19 Joined: Sep 2010 Posts: 4,293 Bothell, Washington R Remington6MM Campfire Tracker Remington6MM Campfire Tracker R Joined: Sep 2010 Posts: 4,293 Bothell, Washington Originally Posted by fredIII Butt sugartits!! Oh damn Fred, don't do that again please. My meds haven't kicked in yet. I'd rather die in a BAD gunfight than a GOOD nursing home.

Re: SWFA 10x laker #13971787 07/13/19 Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 58,355 Paradise,Alaska Big Stick Campfire Kahuna Big Stick Campfire Kahuna Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 58,355 Paradise,Alaska 6mm, It's funny that you "aspire" to be a Wanna-be! Congratulations?!? You poor poor(literally) Whining Brokedick DROOLING Fhuqk. Bless your heart for crying. Hint. LAUGHING!............ Brad says: "Can't fault Rick for his pity letting you back on the fire... but pity it was and remains. Nothing more, nothing less. A sad little man in a sad little dream."

Re: SWFA 10x laker #13971882 07/13/19 Joined: Oct 2009 Posts: 971 Upstate SC H HandgunHTR Campfire Regular HandgunHTR Campfire Regular H Joined: Oct 2009 Posts: 971 Upstate SC Here is my take on using fixed power scopes. While they are great for target shooting at known distances, I am not a fan of them for hunting. Can they be used for hunting? Absolutely, however if using a fixed 6X and shot presents itself at greater than 400, it becomes much harder to pick out distant obstacles that could impact the shot, as well as making it harder to "hold on a spot" on the animal itself. If using a 10X or 12X, then invariably a shot will present itself at 20 yards through some brush and all you end up seeing in the scope is "brown". Again, it is very difficult to pick the right spot, quickly. That is why I am a fan of variable power scopes for use in hunting situations, even when longer ranges are expected. A 3-10 or 3-12 is what I would be looking for in this situation.

Re: SWFA 10x laker #13971912 07/13/19 Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 58,355 Paradise,Alaska Big Stick Campfire Kahuna Big Stick Campfire Kahuna Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 58,355 Paradise,Alaska WHAT in the fhuqk,are you TRYING to "talk" about? Congratulations?!? Bless your heart for TRYING! Hint. Laughing!................... Brad says: "Can't fault Rick for his pity letting you back on the fire... but pity it was and remains. Nothing more, nothing less. A sad little man in a sad little dream."

Re: SWFA 10x Big Stick #13971976 07/13/19 Joined: Oct 2009 Posts: 971 Upstate SC H HandgunHTR Campfire Regular HandgunHTR Campfire Regular H Joined: Oct 2009 Posts: 971 Upstate SC Originally Posted by Big Stick WHAT in the fhuqk,are you TRYING to "talk" about? Congratulations?!? Bless your heart for TRYING! Hint. Laughing!................... Look, I realize that reading comprehension is not your strong suit, but how about you quit messing up people's threads and try offering some really world advice? You claim to have done it all, yet all of your "advice" tends to reek of bull-schit, so how about you let the OP decide whose input they want to listen to? Last edited by HandgunHTR; 07/13/19.

Re: SWFA 10x laker #13971994 07/13/19 Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 58,355 Paradise,Alaska Big Stick Campfire Kahuna Big Stick Campfire Kahuna Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 58,355 Paradise,Alaska Cannedgun, It's your Imagination,simply Pretend with it as you MUST. congratulations?!? Your Insecurities and Dumbfhuqktitude rest solely upon your narrow shoulders. Bless your heart for CRYING though. Hint. Laughing!................ Brad says: "Can't fault Rick for his pity letting you back on the fire... but pity it was and remains. Nothing more, nothing less. A sad little man in a sad little dream."

Re: SWFA 10x HandgunHTR #13972227 07/13/19 Joined: Dec 2008 Posts: 21,167 N.. Newaukum, Washington J Judman Campfire Ranger Judman Campfire Ranger J Joined: Dec 2008 Posts: 21,167 N.. Newaukum, Washington Originally Posted by HandgunHTR Here is my take on using fixed power scopes. While they are great for target shooting at known distances, I am not a fan of them for hunting. Can they be used for hunting? Absolutely, however if using a fixed 6X and shot presents itself at greater than 400, it becomes much harder to pick out distant obstacles that could impact the shot, as well as making it harder to "hold on a spot" on the animal itself. If using a 10X or 12X, then invariably a shot will present itself at 20 yards through some brush and all you end up seeing in the scope is "brown". Again, it is very difficult to pick the right spot, quickly. That is why I am a fan of variable power scopes for use in hunting situations, even when longer ranges are expected. A 3-10 or 3-12 is what I would be looking for in this situation. Exactly.... fuuck fixed power glass.... Ping pong balls for the win. Once you've wrestled everything else in life is easy. Dan Gable I keep my circle small, I’d rather have 4 quarters than 100 pennies. Ain’t easy havin pals.

Re: SWFA 10x laker #13972295 07/13/19 Joined: Apr 2017 Posts: 2,915 north east fla 4 44mc Campfire Regular 44mc Campfire Regular 4 Joined: Apr 2017 Posts: 2,915 north east fla handgunhtr don't you know limp twig has done it all and then some .when he post some thing you can rest at night knowing he is so full of chitt his eyes are brown

Re: SWFA 10x laker #13972340 07/13/19 Joined: Feb 2016 Posts: 17,818 Armpit of midwest H hookeye Campfire Ranger hookeye Campfire Ranger H Joined: Feb 2016 Posts: 17,818 Armpit of midwest I rather liked my 10X AO Leupold........but it was on a .243 BDL standard that was used just to nuke chucks.

Re: SWFA 10x laker #13972471 07/13/19 Joined: Apr 2007 Posts: 3,723 Baker, MT L laker OP Campfire Tracker OP laker Campfire Tracker L Joined: Apr 2007 Posts: 3,723 Baker, MT Glad to see this thread took the typical campfire route.

Re: SWFA 10x laker #13972493 07/13/19 Joined: Dec 2008 Posts: 21,167 N.. Newaukum, Washington J Judman Campfire Ranger Judman Campfire Ranger J Joined: Dec 2008 Posts: 21,167 N.. Newaukum, Washington oh You mean Larry chiming in? Ping pong balls for the win. Once you've wrestled everything else in life is easy. Dan Gable I keep my circle small, I’d rather have 4 quarters than 100 pennies. Ain’t easy havin pals.

Re: SWFA 10x laker #13972564 07/13/19 Joined: Apr 2008 Posts: 17,107 MonDak V viking Campfire Ranger viking Campfire Ranger V Joined: Apr 2008 Posts: 17,107 MonDak Yeah someone posts something they want to share like experience, good or bad. They might what to share a buddies experience or what ever. Then along comes a nah sayer spouting insults.

Re: SWFA 10x laker #13972597 07/13/19 Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 58,355 Paradise,Alaska Big Stick Campfire Kahuna Big Stick Campfire Kahuna Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 58,355 Paradise,Alaska Pardon my shooting it all and then some...as Melting Snowflakes wax eloquent upon their Hurt Feelers. Hint.............. Brad says: "Can't fault Rick for his pity letting you back on the fire... but pity it was and remains. Nothing more, nothing less. A sad little man in a sad little dream."

Re: SWFA 10x laker #13972619 07/13/19 Joined: Aug 2005 Posts: 11,352 Denver 30338 Campfire Outfitter 30338 Campfire Outfitter Joined: Aug 2005 Posts: 11,352 Denver Laker, My 6.5-06 wears a SS 6x and I'd have no issues out to 700 yards despite chopping the barrel to 18" and suppressing it. Far more game is missed up close due to too much scope than game lost at long range due to too few x's. For $270 a pop on sale days, buy both and put the loser on a 223 or something. But if buying only 1, I'd go 6x. The new 156 EOL and 147 ELD are both great options in the 6.5-06. Both perk nicely with RL26. Good luck.

Re: SWFA 10x laker #13972633 07/13/19 Joined: Apr 2017 Posts: 2,915 north east fla 4 44mc Campfire Regular 44mc Campfire Regular 4 Joined: Apr 2017 Posts: 2,915 north east fla the only thing limp stick shoots is his mouth

Re: SWFA 10x laker #13972667 07/13/19 Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 58,355 Paradise,Alaska Big Stick Campfire Kahuna Big Stick Campfire Kahuna Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 58,355 Paradise,Alaska PoortyPoor, I reckon you gotta "tell" yourself something. Congratulations?!? You Do NOTHING Dumb Fhuqks are a Hoot! Bless your heart for Crying. Hint. Laughing!................. Brad says: "Can't fault Rick for his pity letting you back on the fire... but pity it was and remains. Nothing more, nothing less. A sad little man in a sad little dream."

Re: SWFA 10x laker #13972683 07/13/19 Joined: Apr 2017 Posts: 2,915 north east fla 4 44mc Campfire Regular 44mc Campfire Regular 4 Joined: Apr 2017 Posts: 2,915 north east fla yea you are to dumb to know how stupid you are . flame on [bleep]

Re: SWFA 10x 44mc #13972706 07/13/19 Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 58,355 Paradise,Alaska Big Stick Campfire Kahuna Big Stick Campfire Kahuna Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 58,355 Paradise,Alaska Originally Posted by 44mc yea you are to dumb to know how stupid you are . flame on [bleep] In fairness "too" IS a "big" word. Congratulations?!? You poor poor(literally) Dooling Fhuqktard. bless your heart for crying though! Hint. Laughing!.............. Brad says: "Can't fault Rick for his pity letting you back on the fire... but pity it was and remains. Nothing more, nothing less. A sad little man in a sad little dream."

Re: SWFA 10x Big Stick #13972847 07/13/19 Joined: Jan 2010 Posts: 8,423 Wa west 🇱🇷 F fredIII Campfire Outfitter fredIII Campfire Outfitter F Joined: Jan 2010 Posts: 8,423 Wa west 🇱🇷 Originally Posted by Big Stick Pardon my shooting it all and then some...as Melting Snowflakes wax eloquent upon their Hurt Feelers. Hint.............. 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣. 1966 Called, she wants her bed spread back! wow that dated. Last edited by fredIII; 07/13/19.

Re: SWFA 10x laker #13972852 07/13/19 Joined: Apr 2017 Posts: 2,915 north east fla 4 44mc Campfire Regular 44mc Campfire Regular 4 Joined: Apr 2017 Posts: 2,915 north east fla you need to get some new pic from the store yours are old hint dumb no nuts

Re: SWFA 10x laker #13972863 07/13/19 Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 58,355 Paradise,Alaska Big Stick Campfire Kahuna Big Stick Campfire Kahuna Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 58,355 Paradise,Alaska Fredrica would need a Co-signer for the blanket and you'd have to make payments on the tape. Congratulations?!? You fhuqking Droolers are a HOOT! Bless your hearts for Crying. Hint. LAUGHING!.............. Brad says: "Can't fault Rick for his pity letting you back on the fire... but pity it was and remains. Nothing more, nothing less. A sad little man in a sad little dream."

Re: SWFA 10x fredIII #13972899 07/13/19 Joined: Dec 2008 Posts: 21,167 N.. Newaukum, Washington J Judman Campfire Ranger Judman Campfire Ranger J Joined: Dec 2008 Posts: 21,167 N.. Newaukum, Washington Originally Posted by fredIII Originally Posted by Big Stick Pardon my shooting it all and then some...as Melting Snowflakes wax eloquent upon their Hurt Feelers. Hint.............. 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣. 1966 Called, she wants her bed spread back! wow that dated. And he wonders why he’s single!!! Haha “Fuuck no biitch, no new bedding, I got folks to try to impress on the www”!!! Haha This is sooooo fun!! 🤣🤣 Ping pong balls for the win. Once you've wrestled everything else in life is easy. Dan Gable I keep my circle small, I’d rather have 4 quarters than 100 pennies. Ain’t easy havin pals.

Re: SWFA 10x laker #13972909 07/13/19 Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 58,355 Paradise,Alaska Big Stick Campfire Kahuna Big Stick Campfire Kahuna Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 58,355 Paradise,Alaska "Living" vicariously is your only "move". Congratulations?!? Bless your heart for Crying. Hint. LAUGHING!............... Brad says: "Can't fault Rick for his pity letting you back on the fire... but pity it was and remains. Nothing more, nothing less. A sad little man in a sad little dream."

Re: SWFA 10x Big Stick #13972911 07/13/19 Joined: Jan 2010 Posts: 8,423 Wa west 🇱🇷 F fredIII Campfire Outfitter fredIII Campfire Outfitter F Joined: Jan 2010 Posts: 8,423 Wa west 🇱🇷 Originally Posted by Big Stick Fredrica would need a Co-signer for the blanket and you'd have to make payments on the tape. Congratulations?!? You fhuqking Droolers are a HOOT! Bless your hearts for Crying. Hint. LAUGHING!.............. The new custom bed spread that covers me cost more than your stupid scopes and just a tad less than a NF. But it made my wife happy. Hint.

Re: SWFA 10x laker #13972920 07/13/19 Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 58,355 Paradise,Alaska Big Stick Campfire Kahuna Big Stick Campfire Kahuna Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 58,355 Paradise,Alaska Ooopsie!.............. Brad says: "Can't fault Rick for his pity letting you back on the fire... but pity it was and remains. Nothing more, nothing less. A sad little man in a sad little dream."

Re: SWFA 10x Judman #13972924 07/13/19 Joined: Jan 2010 Posts: 8,423 Wa west 🇱🇷 F fredIII Campfire Outfitter fredIII Campfire Outfitter F Joined: Jan 2010 Posts: 8,423 Wa west 🇱🇷 Originally Posted by Judman Originally Posted by fredIII Originally Posted by Big Stick Pardon my shooting it all and then some...as Melting Snowflakes wax eloquent upon their Hurt Feelers. Hint.............. 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣. 1966 Called, she wants her bed spread back! wow that dated. And he wonders why he’s single!!! Haha “Fuuck no biitch, no new bedding, I got folks to try to impress on the www”!!! Haha This is sooooo fun!! 🤣🤣 Old Kerri was smart! as the white had to be cum camouflage and your dick swiffer pillow was the wipe up station.

Re: SWFA 10x laker #13972931 07/13/19 Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 58,355 Paradise,Alaska Big Stick Campfire Kahuna Big Stick Campfire Kahuna Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 58,355 Paradise,Alaska Ooooopsie!............. Brad says: "Can't fault Rick for his pity letting you back on the fire... but pity it was and remains. Nothing more, nothing less. A sad little man in a sad little dream."

Re: SWFA 10x Big Stick #13972936 07/13/19 Joined: Jan 2010 Posts: 8,423 Wa west 🇱🇷 F fredIII Campfire Outfitter fredIII Campfire Outfitter F Joined: Jan 2010 Posts: 8,423 Wa west 🇱🇷 Originally Posted by Big Stick Ooopsie!.............. They name a cartridge after your old man sugartits ??

Re: SWFA 10x laker #13972940 07/13/19 Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 58,355 Paradise,Alaska Big Stick Campfire Kahuna Big Stick Campfire Kahuna Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 58,355 Paradise,Alaska Oooopsie!............... Brad says: "Can't fault Rick for his pity letting you back on the fire... but pity it was and remains. Nothing more, nothing less. A sad little man in a sad little dream."

Re: SWFA 10x laker #13972944 07/13/19 Joined: Dec 2008 Posts: 21,167 N.. Newaukum, Washington J Judman Campfire Ranger Judman Campfire Ranger J Joined: Dec 2008 Posts: 21,167 N.. Newaukum, Washington Kerri!!! You are on a allowance!!!! I got fuuckers to impress on the www! Ping pong balls for the win. Once you've wrestled everything else in life is easy. Dan Gable I keep my circle small, I’d rather have 4 quarters than 100 pennies. Ain’t easy havin pals.

Re: SWFA 10x laker #13972952 07/13/19 Joined: Dec 2008 Posts: 21,167 N.. Newaukum, Washington J Judman Campfire Ranger Judman Campfire Ranger J Joined: Dec 2008 Posts: 21,167 N.. Newaukum, Washington No sports for you kids!!! Too much $$$ and MY time!!!! 🤣🤣🤣 Ping pong balls for the win. Once you've wrestled everything else in life is easy. Dan Gable I keep my circle small, I’d rather have 4 quarters than 100 pennies. Ain’t easy havin pals.

Re: SWFA 10x laker #13972953 07/13/19 Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 58,355 Paradise,Alaska Big Stick Campfire Kahuna Big Stick Campfire Kahuna Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 58,355 Paradise,Alaska Brad says: "Can't fault Rick for his pity letting you back on the fire... but pity it was and remains. Nothing more, nothing less. A sad little man in a sad little dream."

Re: SWFA 10x laker #13972989 07/13/19 Joined: Jan 2010 Posts: 8,423 Wa west 🇱🇷 F fredIII Campfire Outfitter fredIII Campfire Outfitter F Joined: Jan 2010 Posts: 8,423 Wa west 🇱🇷 😂🤣🤣🤣😂😂🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣😂😂🤣🤣🤣🤣😂

Re: SWFA 10x laker #13972992 07/13/19 Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 58,355 Paradise,Alaska Big Stick Campfire Kahuna Big Stick Campfire Kahuna Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 58,355 Paradise,Alaska Brad says: "Can't fault Rick for his pity letting you back on the fire... but pity it was and remains. Nothing more, nothing less. A sad little man in a sad little dream."

Re: SWFA 10x laker #13972998 07/13/19 Joined: Dec 2008 Posts: 21,167 N.. Newaukum, Washington J Judman Campfire Ranger Judman Campfire Ranger J Joined: Dec 2008 Posts: 21,167 N.. Newaukum, Washington Fine biitch move out, you only worked at the general store anyways you minimum wage biitch!!!! I need more $$$!!!! Haha Ping pong balls for the win. Once you've wrestled everything else in life is easy. Dan Gable I keep my circle small, I’d rather have 4 quarters than 100 pennies. Ain’t easy havin pals.

Re: SWFA 10x laker #13973000 07/13/19 Joined: Dec 2008 Posts: 21,167 N.. Newaukum, Washington J Judman Campfire Ranger Judman Campfire Ranger J Joined: Dec 2008 Posts: 21,167 N.. Newaukum, Washington It’s all about me!!!! I need more!!!! More guns!!! Note bullets!!! Powder, I need more powder!!!! 🤣🤣 Ping pong balls for the win. Once you've wrestled everything else in life is easy. Dan Gable I keep my circle small, I’d rather have 4 quarters than 100 pennies. Ain’t easy havin pals.

Re: SWFA 10x laker #13973001 07/13/19 Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 58,355 Paradise,Alaska Big Stick Campfire Kahuna Big Stick Campfire Kahuna Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 58,355 Paradise,Alaska Brad says: "Can't fault Rick for his pity letting you back on the fire... but pity it was and remains. Nothing more, nothing less. A sad little man in a sad little dream."

Re: SWFA 10x laker #13973007 07/13/19 Joined: Dec 2008 Posts: 21,167 N.. Newaukum, Washington J Judman Campfire Ranger Judman Campfire Ranger J Joined: Dec 2008 Posts: 21,167 N.. Newaukum, Washington You fuuckers stay home!!! I gotta take more pics!!!! More!!! More!!! You stupid glutinous fuucking cuunt!!! 🤣🤣 Ping pong balls for the win. Once you've wrestled everything else in life is easy. Dan Gable I keep my circle small, I’d rather have 4 quarters than 100 pennies. Ain’t easy havin pals.

Re: SWFA 10x laker #13973008 07/13/19 Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 58,355 Paradise,Alaska Big Stick Campfire Kahuna Big Stick Campfire Kahuna Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 58,355 Paradise,Alaska Brad says: "Can't fault Rick for his pity letting you back on the fire... but pity it was and remains. Nothing more, nothing less. A sad little man in a sad little dream."

Re: SWFA 10x laker #13973011 07/13/19 Joined: Dec 2008 Posts: 21,167 N.. Newaukum, Washington J Judman Campfire Ranger Judman Campfire Ranger J Joined: Dec 2008 Posts: 21,167 N.. Newaukum, Washington More!!!! I need more!!!! 🤣🤣 Ping pong balls for the win. Once you've wrestled everything else in life is easy. Dan Gable I keep my circle small, I’d rather have 4 quarters than 100 pennies. Ain’t easy havin pals.

Re: SWFA 10x laker #13973012 07/13/19 Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 58,355 Paradise,Alaska Big Stick Campfire Kahuna Big Stick Campfire Kahuna Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 58,355 Paradise,Alaska Brad says: "Can't fault Rick for his pity letting you back on the fire... but pity it was and remains. Nothing more, nothing less. A sad little man in a sad little dream."

Re: SWFA 10x laker #13973013 07/13/19 Joined: Dec 2008 Posts: 21,167 N.. Newaukum, Washington J Judman Campfire Ranger Judman Campfire Ranger J Joined: Dec 2008 Posts: 21,167 N.. Newaukum, Washington More magazines!!! More !!! More!!! 🤣🤣 Ping pong balls for the win. Once you've wrestled everything else in life is easy. Dan Gable I keep my circle small, I’d rather have 4 quarters than 100 pennies. Ain’t easy havin pals.

Re: SWFA 10x laker #13973020 07/13/19 Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 58,355 Paradise,Alaska Big Stick Campfire Kahuna Big Stick Campfire Kahuna Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 58,355 Paradise,Alaska Brad says: "Can't fault Rick for his pity letting you back on the fire... but pity it was and remains. Nothing more, nothing less. A sad little man in a sad little dream."

Re: SWFA 10x laker #13973036 07/13/19 Joined: Apr 2017 Posts: 2,915 north east fla 4 44mc Campfire Regular 44mc Campfire Regular 4 Joined: Apr 2017 Posts: 2,915 north east fla fred leave small stick alone,[ hint ] laffin!! he is trying to get his welfare check to clear the bank hint laffin

Re: SWFA 10x laker #13973043 07/13/19 Joined: Jan 2018 Posts: 760 Indiana R RMerta Campfire Regular RMerta Campfire Regular R Joined: Jan 2018 Posts: 760 Indiana Soooo what did we learn about the SWFA 10x scope? Guys this is ridiculous!

Re: SWFA 10x laker #13973046 07/13/19 Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 58,355 Paradise,Alaska Big Stick Campfire Kahuna Big Stick Campfire Kahuna Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 58,355 Paradise,Alaska Brad says: "Can't fault Rick for his pity letting you back on the fire... but pity it was and remains. Nothing more, nothing less. A sad little man in a sad little dream."

Re: SWFA 10x laker #13973094 07/13/19 Joined: Apr 2017 Posts: 2,915 north east fla 4 44mc Campfire Regular 44mc Campfire Regular 4 Joined: Apr 2017 Posts: 2,915 north east fla stick is too dumb to know he is stupid

Re: SWFA 10x laker #13973102 07/13/19 Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 58,355 Paradise,Alaska Big Stick Campfire Kahuna Big Stick Campfire Kahuna Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 58,355 Paradise,Alaska Brad says: "Can't fault Rick for his pity letting you back on the fire... but pity it was and remains. Nothing more, nothing less. A sad little man in a sad little dream."

Re: SWFA 10x 44mc #13973144 07/13/19 Joined: Jan 2010 Posts: 8,423 Wa west 🇱🇷 F fredIII Campfire Outfitter fredIII Campfire Outfitter F Joined: Jan 2010 Posts: 8,423 Wa west 🇱🇷 Originally Posted by 44mc fred leave small stick alone,[ hint ] laffin!! he is trying to get his welfare check to clear the bank hint laffin He’s a yellow sack of [bleep]. 🤭🤣🤣. We aren’t far from fish pictures.

Re: SWFA 10x laker #13973156 07/13/19 Joined: Jan 2010 Posts: 8,423 Wa west 🇱🇷 F fredIII Campfire Outfitter fredIII Campfire Outfitter F Joined: Jan 2010 Posts: 8,423 Wa west 🇱🇷 Sugartits

Re: SWFA 10x laker #13973157 07/13/19 Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 58,355 Paradise,Alaska Big Stick Campfire Kahuna Big Stick Campfire Kahuna Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 58,355 Paradise,Alaska Brad says: "Can't fault Rick for his pity letting you back on the fire... but pity it was and remains. Nothing more, nothing less. A sad little man in a sad little dream."

Re: SWFA 10x laker #13973170 07/13/19 Joined: Jan 2010 Posts: 8,423 Wa west 🇱🇷 F fredIII Campfire Outfitter fredIII Campfire Outfitter F Joined: Jan 2010 Posts: 8,423 Wa west 🇱🇷 You should post pics of the groups you get with your gap4s.

Re: SWFA 10x laker #13973178 07/13/19 Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 58,355 Paradise,Alaska Big Stick Campfire Kahuna Big Stick Campfire Kahuna Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 58,355 Paradise,Alaska Brad says: "Can't fault Rick for his pity letting you back on the fire... but pity it was and remains. Nothing more, nothing less. A sad little man in a sad little dream."

Re: SWFA 10x fredIII #13973182 07/13/19 Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 58,355 Paradise,Alaska Big Stick Campfire Kahuna Big Stick Campfire Kahuna Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 58,355 Paradise,Alaska Originally Posted by fredIII You should post pics of the groups you get with your gap4s. P.S. and by the way..."GAP" is an acronym. Google it. Hint. LAUGHING!.................... Brad says: "Can't fault Rick for his pity letting you back on the fire... but pity it was and remains. Nothing more, nothing less. A sad little man in a sad little dream."

Re: SWFA 10x laker #13973189 07/13/19 Joined: Jan 2010 Posts: 8,423 Wa west 🇱🇷 F fredIII Campfire Outfitter fredIII Campfire Outfitter F Joined: Jan 2010 Posts: 8,423 Wa west 🇱🇷 lol.

Re: SWFA 10x laker #13973196 07/13/19 Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 58,355 Paradise,Alaska Big Stick Campfire Kahuna Big Stick Campfire Kahuna Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 58,355 Paradise,Alaska Funnier than that. Hint............ Brad says: "Can't fault Rick for his pity letting you back on the fire... but pity it was and remains. Nothing more, nothing less. A sad little man in a sad little dream."

Re: SWFA 10x laker #13973216 07/13/19 Joined: Apr 2017 Posts: 2,915 north east fla 4 44mc Campfire Regular 44mc Campfire Regular 4 Joined: Apr 2017 Posts: 2,915 north east fla he is just hornie .he don't get none if sis and the kid aint around

Re: SWFA 10x Big Stick #13973218 07/13/19 Joined: Jan 2010 Posts: 8,423 Wa west 🇱🇷 F fredIII Campfire Outfitter fredIII Campfire Outfitter F Joined: Jan 2010 Posts: 8,423 Wa west 🇱🇷 Originally Posted by Big Stick Originally Posted by fredIII You should post pics of the groups you get with your gap4s. P.S. and by the way..."GAP" is an acronym. Google it. Hint. LAUGHING!.................... Elk pictures? You cull.

Re: SWFA 10x laker #13973222 07/13/19 Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 58,355 Paradise,Alaska Big Stick Campfire Kahuna Big Stick Campfire Kahuna Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 58,355 Paradise,Alaska Brad says: "Can't fault Rick for his pity letting you back on the fire... but pity it was and remains. Nothing more, nothing less. A sad little man in a sad little dream."

Re: SWFA 10x laker #13973286 07/13/19 Joined: Apr 2017 Posts: 2,915 north east fla 4 44mc Campfire Regular 44mc Campfire Regular 4 Joined: Apr 2017 Posts: 2,915 north east fla stick is too dumb to know how stupid he is

Re: SWFA 10x laker #13973297 07/13/19 Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 58,355 Paradise,Alaska Big Stick Campfire Kahuna Big Stick Campfire Kahuna Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 58,355 Paradise,Alaska Brad says: "Can't fault Rick for his pity letting you back on the fire... but pity it was and remains. Nothing more, nothing less. A sad little man in a sad little dream."

Re: SWFA 10x laker #13973358 07/13/19 Joined: Feb 2003 Posts: 10,361 WA rain forest Clarkm Campfire Outfitter Clarkm Campfire Outfitter Joined: Feb 2003 Posts: 10,361 WA rain forest This is a little whitetail doe I shot at 629 yards with a 6.5-06 I built on a Dumoulin Mauser action Shilen barrel Sightron SIII 3.5x10x44 scope 120 gr Nos Bal tip 3200 fps muzzle There is nothing noble in being superior to your fellow man; true nobility is being superior to your former self. -Ernest Hemingway The man who makes no mistakes does not usually make anything.-- Edward John Phelps

Re: SWFA 10x 44mc #13973361 07/13/19 Joined: Jan 2010 Posts: 8,423 Wa west 🇱🇷 F fredIII Campfire Outfitter fredIII Campfire Outfitter F Joined: Jan 2010 Posts: 8,423 Wa west 🇱🇷 Originally Posted by 44mc stick is too dumb to know how stupid he is Ain’t that a fact

Re: SWFA 10x laker #13973375 07/13/19 Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 58,355 Paradise,Alaska Big Stick Campfire Kahuna Big Stick Campfire Kahuna Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 58,355 Paradise,Alaska Brad says: "Can't fault Rick for his pity letting you back on the fire... but pity it was and remains. Nothing more, nothing less. A sad little man in a sad little dream."

Re: SWFA 10x laker #13973521 07/13/19 Joined: Dec 2008 Posts: 21,167 N.. Newaukum, Washington J Judman Campfire Ranger Judman Campfire Ranger J Joined: Dec 2008 Posts: 21,167 N.. Newaukum, Washington That’s a huge elk!!! Grats!!! You must eat bear meat too???? 🤣🤣 Ping pong balls for the win. Once you've wrestled everything else in life is easy. Dan Gable I keep my circle small, I’d rather have 4 quarters than 100 pennies. Ain’t easy havin pals.

Re: SWFA 10x laker #13973545 07/13/19 Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 58,355 Paradise,Alaska Big Stick Campfire Kahuna Big Stick Campfire Kahuna Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 58,355 Paradise,Alaska Brad says: "Can't fault Rick for his pity letting you back on the fire... but pity it was and remains. Nothing more, nothing less. A sad little man in a sad little dream."

Re: SWFA 10x laker #13973586 07/13/19 Joined: Dec 2008 Posts: 21,167 N.. Newaukum, Washington J Judman Campfire Ranger Judman Campfire Ranger J Joined: Dec 2008 Posts: 21,167 N.. Newaukum, Washington And that's a Raghorn!!! Laffin Ping pong balls for the win. Once you've wrestled everything else in life is easy. Dan Gable I keep my circle small, I’d rather have 4 quarters than 100 pennies. Ain’t easy havin pals.

Re: SWFA 10x laker #13973589 07/13/19 Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 58,355 Paradise,Alaska Big Stick Campfire Kahuna Big Stick Campfire Kahuna Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 58,355 Paradise,Alaska Brad says: "Can't fault Rick for his pity letting you back on the fire... but pity it was and remains. Nothing more, nothing less. A sad little man in a sad little dream."

Re: SWFA 10x laker #13973595 07/13/19 Joined: Dec 2008 Posts: 21,167 N.. Newaukum, Washington J Judman Campfire Ranger Judman Campfire Ranger J Joined: Dec 2008 Posts: 21,167 N.. Newaukum, Washington A spike!!!! Grin Ping pong balls for the win. Once you've wrestled everything else in life is easy. Dan Gable I keep my circle small, I’d rather have 4 quarters than 100 pennies. Ain’t easy havin pals.

Re: SWFA 10x laker #13973601 07/13/19 Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 58,355 Paradise,Alaska Big Stick Campfire Kahuna Big Stick Campfire Kahuna Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 58,355 Paradise,Alaska Brad says: "Can't fault Rick for his pity letting you back on the fire... but pity it was and remains. Nothing more, nothing less. A sad little man in a sad little dream."

Re: SWFA 10x laker #13973615 07/13/19 Joined: Jan 2010 Posts: 8,423 Wa west 🇱🇷 F fredIII Campfire Outfitter fredIII Campfire Outfitter F Joined: Jan 2010 Posts: 8,423 Wa west 🇱🇷 Spike camp for cock

Re: SWFA 10x laker #13973622 07/13/19 Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 58,355 Paradise,Alaska Big Stick Campfire Kahuna Big Stick Campfire Kahuna Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 58,355 Paradise,Alaska Brad says: "Can't fault Rick for his pity letting you back on the fire... but pity it was and remains. Nothing more, nothing less. A sad little man in a sad little dream."

Re: SWFA 10x laker #13973624 07/13/19 Joined: Dec 2008 Posts: 21,167 N.. Newaukum, Washington J Judman Campfire Ranger Judman Campfire Ranger J Joined: Dec 2008 Posts: 21,167 N.. Newaukum, Washington Stop it!!! God Damn I can't type I'm laughing so hard!! Haha Ping pong balls for the win. Once you've wrestled everything else in life is easy. Dan Gable I keep my circle small, I’d rather have 4 quarters than 100 pennies. Ain’t easy havin pals.

Re: SWFA 10x laker #13973627 07/13/19 Joined: Dec 2008 Posts: 21,167 N.. Newaukum, Washington J Judman Campfire Ranger Judman Campfire Ranger J Joined: Dec 2008 Posts: 21,167 N.. Newaukum, Washington Spike camp for cock!!! Haha Ping pong balls for the win. Once you've wrestled everything else in life is easy. Dan Gable I keep my circle small, I’d rather have 4 quarters than 100 pennies. Ain’t easy havin pals.

Re: SWFA 10x laker #13973628 07/13/19 Joined: Dec 2008 Posts: 21,167 N.. Newaukum, Washington J Judman Campfire Ranger Judman Campfire Ranger J Joined: Dec 2008 Posts: 21,167 N.. Newaukum, Washington Then dumb bastard posts bullets!!! Haha Ping pong balls for the win. Once you've wrestled everything else in life is easy. Dan Gable I keep my circle small, I’d rather have 4 quarters than 100 pennies. Ain’t easy havin pals.

Re: SWFA 10x laker #13973629 07/13/19 Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 58,355 Paradise,Alaska Big Stick Campfire Kahuna Big Stick Campfire Kahuna Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 58,355 Paradise,Alaska Nobody can slap them dicks outta your hands...you "lucky" kchunt. Congratulations?!? Hint........... Brad says: "Can't fault Rick for his pity letting you back on the fire... but pity it was and remains. Nothing more, nothing less. A sad little man in a sad little dream."

Re: SWFA 10x laker #13973640 07/13/19 Joined: Dec 2008 Posts: 21,167 N.. Newaukum, Washington J Judman Campfire Ranger Judman Campfire Ranger J Joined: Dec 2008 Posts: 21,167 N.. Newaukum, Washington Dies??? Etc?? Haha Ping pong balls for the win. Once you've wrestled everything else in life is easy. Dan Gable I keep my circle small, I’d rather have 4 quarters than 100 pennies. Ain’t easy havin pals.

Re: SWFA 10x laker #13973645 07/13/19 Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 58,355 Paradise,Alaska Big Stick Campfire Kahuna Big Stick Campfire Kahuna Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 58,355 Paradise,Alaska Brad says: "Can't fault Rick for his pity letting you back on the fire... but pity it was and remains. Nothing more, nothing less. A sad little man in a sad little dream."

Re: SWFA 10x laker #13973654 07/13/19 Joined: Jul 2007 Posts: 15,816 M Mackay_Sagebrush Campfire Ranger Mackay_Sagebrush Campfire Ranger M Joined: Jul 2007 Posts: 15,816 Originally Posted by laker Putting together a 6.5-06 and am thnking about putting a SWFA 10x on it. How do you guys like the 10x for shooting out to 600-700 yards? Gun is going to be used on a lot of coyote huntings and also up to elk. Do you feel underscoped at longer distances with the 10x? I run a 10X SWFA on one of my main hunting rifles and it is just fine. It has a number of elk to its credit. I know Scenar shooter on here also ran a fixed 10x (S&B) for years, and I believe he still does on a number of his guns. In regards to your question about feeling underscoped at longer distances with a 10x; Last year I shot my cow elk at a shade over 600 yards with my 20" 308 that is topped with a 2.5-10X NF. 10x is plenty. I just set my kids 20" .308 Tikka up with an SWFA 6X MIL/MIL and in playing with it, it is a pretty stellar all around package too, but for a 6.5-06 I would got with the 10X. THE CHAIR IS AGAINST THE WALL. The Tikka T3 in .308 Winchester is the Glock 19 of the rifle world. The website is up and running! www.lostriverammocompany.com

Re: SWFA 10x laker #13973660 07/13/19 Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 58,355 Paradise,Alaska Big Stick Campfire Kahuna Big Stick Campfire Kahuna Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 58,355 Paradise,Alaska Brad says: "Can't fault Rick for his pity letting you back on the fire... but pity it was and remains. Nothing more, nothing less. A sad little man in a sad little dream."

Re: SWFA 10x Judman #13973662 07/13/19 Joined: Jul 2007 Posts: 15,816 M Mackay_Sagebrush Campfire Ranger Mackay_Sagebrush Campfire Ranger M Joined: Jul 2007 Posts: 15,816 Originally Posted by Judman And he wonders why he’s single!!! Haha “Fuuck no biitch, no new bedding, I got folks to try to impress on the www”!!! Haha This is sooooo fun!! 🤣🤣 Nailed that one! 100% on point! THE CHAIR IS AGAINST THE WALL. The Tikka T3 in .308 Winchester is the Glock 19 of the rifle world. The website is up and running! www.lostriverammocompany.com

Re: SWFA 10x laker #13973665 07/13/19 Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 58,355 Paradise,Alaska Big Stick Campfire Kahuna Big Stick Campfire Kahuna Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 58,355 Paradise,Alaska McQueen Sagepoosh, You are a HOOT! Laughing!................ Brad says: "Can't fault Rick for his pity letting you back on the fire... but pity it was and remains. Nothing more, nothing less. A sad little man in a sad little dream."

Re: SWFA 10x laker #13973686 07/13/19 Joined: Jan 2010 Posts: 8,423 Wa west 🇱🇷 F fredIII Campfire Outfitter fredIII Campfire Outfitter F Joined: Jan 2010 Posts: 8,423 Wa west 🇱🇷 [bleep] knifes. lol.

Re: SWFA 10x laker #13974022 07/14/19 Joined: Jul 2014 Posts: 2,556 Nebraska S sbhooper Campfire Regular sbhooper Campfire Regular S Joined: Jul 2014 Posts: 2,556 Nebraska Back to the original question, the 10x will do just fine, both near and far. I do not shoot as far as you are questioning, but have shot animals out past 400 yards with the 10x and it was fine. The only way to tell, for your needs, is to try one. I have shot deer up close with it, too. I also have the 6x and like them real well. My eyes prefer the higher magnification, though. You did not "seen" anything, you "saw" it. A "creek" has water in it, a "crick" is what you get in your neck. Liberals with guns are nothing but hypocrites.

Re: SWFA 10x Judman #13975503 07/14/19 Joined: Dec 2002 Posts: 5,876 Seattle Brother Dave Campfire Tracker Brother Dave Campfire Tracker Joined: Dec 2002 Posts: 5,876 Seattle F.uck all you people making comments about her and the kids. You're as low-class as it gets and there's no excuse or justification for it.

Re: SWFA 10x laker #13975560 07/14/19 Joined: Apr 2008 Posts: 17,107 MonDak V viking Campfire Ranger viking Campfire Ranger V Joined: Apr 2008 Posts: 17,107 MonDak Who and what?

Re: SWFA 10x Brother Dave #13975629 07/14/19 Joined: Jan 2018 Posts: 23,506 Oregon Beaver10 Campfire Ranger Beaver10 Campfire Ranger Joined: Jan 2018 Posts: 23,506 Oregon Originally Posted by Brother Dave F.uck all you people making comments about her and the kids. You're as low-class as it gets and there's no excuse or justification for it. BD, A lot of members early on were upset at family being brought into this Larry and “insert several members names” feud. Long ago ROE’ s were established by all involved, including Larry, that making comments and targeting family members were part of their war plan. I’ve posted this before and many members agreed that no family, spouse, dog or cat member should ever be used in any way other than for a compliment on the Fire... With this exception: If all feuding members agree to make family a target and post with like targeting...This becomes the rules they have agreed to play by. Does that mean those who choose to read their feud should like it? No. But it’s their fight. You can’t side with any one member because they all have done it to each other on a weekly basis for over a year. It’s easier to ignore the feud than becoming involved yourself. Your feelings are seen, noted and understood by many. Carry On...😎 Curiosity Killed the Cat & The Prairie Dog “Molon Labe”

Re: SWFA 10x laker #13975645 07/14/19 Joined: Aug 2006 Posts: 22,911 Kiowa/Deer Trail, Colorado huntsman22 Campfire Ranger huntsman22 Campfire Ranger Joined: Aug 2006 Posts: 22,911 Kiowa/Deer Trail, Colorado And 'bigger man' never enters into it......

Re: SWFA 10x Brother Dave #13975646 07/14/19 Joined: Mar 2002 Posts: 9,129 A Ackleyfan Campfire Outfitter Ackleyfan Campfire Outfitter A Joined: Mar 2002 Posts: 9,129 Originally Posted by Brother Dave F.uck all you people making comments about her and the kids. You're as low-class as it gets and there's no excuse or justification for it. So does your buddy stick get a free pass for his comments........... https://www.24hourcampfire.com/ubbt...accubond-vs-160gr-partition#Post13973329

Re: SWFA 10x huntsman22 #13975648 07/14/19 Joined: Jan 2018 Posts: 23,506 Oregon Beaver10 Campfire Ranger Beaver10 Campfire Ranger Joined: Jan 2018 Posts: 23,506 Oregon Originally Posted by huntsman22 And 'bigger man' never enters into it...... Yup...😎 Curiosity Killed the Cat & The Prairie Dog “Molon Labe”

Re: SWFA 10x laker #13975702 07/14/19 Joined: Feb 2003 Posts: 10,361 WA rain forest Clarkm Campfire Outfitter Clarkm Campfire Outfitter Joined: Feb 2003 Posts: 10,361 WA rain forest I have terrible eyes, especially the right eye, and the 10X served me well at 629 yards with the 6.5-06. . I built another 6.5-06, lighter weight, I hope to hunt with in 2019, this one with a Rem700 action and Bartlein barrel. This one has a VX-6HS 2x12x42...... not that I need any more than 10X. There is nothing noble in being superior to your fellow man; true nobility is being superior to your former self. -Ernest Hemingway The man who makes no mistakes does not usually make anything.-- Edward John Phelps

Re: SWFA 10x Brother Dave #13975750 07/14/19 Joined: Jan 2010 Posts: 8,423 Wa west 🇱🇷 F fredIII Campfire Outfitter fredIII Campfire Outfitter F Joined: Jan 2010 Posts: 8,423 Wa west 🇱🇷 Originally Posted by Brother Dave F.uck all you people making comments about her and the kids. You're as low-class as it gets and there's no excuse or justification for it. 😢. Dave the fûckn POS talked about my family first if you don’t like it GFY as I could give two [bleep] what you think. I’ll quit when he’s gone. You know first hand what a sack of [bleep] he is y don’t you fix it. ? Is it ok for HIM to disrespect my family? Again so you know he started it. While we are on the subject what is Kerri’s new BF name sugartits will not say.

Re: SWFA 10x laker #13975781 07/14/19 Joined: Aug 2009 Posts: 20,824 Hollywood irfubar Campfire Ranger irfubar Campfire Ranger Joined: Aug 2009 Posts: 20,824 Hollywood Yep Fred...... Brother Dave and Montana Creek Hunter like to take you behind the shed for a whoopin but Stick get's a pass... I call bullchit.... Save your righteous indignation, it doesn't make you look like a better man ..... it simply makes you look like a fool.... welcome to the Big Stick world.... fuggin joke Originally Posted by Judman PS, if you think Trump is “good” you’re way stupider than I thought! Haha Sorry, trump is a no tax payin pile of shiit.

Re: SWFA 10x irfubar #13975794 07/14/19 Joined: Jan 2010 Posts: 8,423 Wa west 🇱🇷 F fredIII Campfire Outfitter fredIII Campfire Outfitter F Joined: Jan 2010 Posts: 8,423 Wa west 🇱🇷 Originally Posted by irfubar Yep Fred...... Brother Dave and Montana Creek Hunter like to take you behind the shed for a whoopin but Stick get's a pass... I call bullchit.... Save your righteous indignation, it doesn't make you look like a better man ..... it simply makes you look like a fool.... welcome to the Big Stick world.... fuggin joke Sounds like Dave’s been washing the blood out of showers for years in sugartits name. If he had a sack he’d of buried the pos years ago.

Re: SWFA 10x Clarkm #13975896 07/14/19 Joined: Jan 2018 Posts: 23,506 Oregon Beaver10 Campfire Ranger Beaver10 Campfire Ranger Joined: Jan 2018 Posts: 23,506 Oregon Originally Posted by Clarkm I have terrible eyes, especially the right eye, and the 10X served me well at 629 yards with the 6.5-06. . I built another 6.5-06, lighter weight, I hope to hunt with in 2019, this one with a Rem700 action and Bartlein barrel. This one has a VX-6HS 2x12x42...... not that I need any more than 10X. Clark, love the lightweight carbon handle on your 6.5/06 and your choice in spout manufacturer. Care to sell it? 😎 Curiosity Killed the Cat & The Prairie Dog “Molon Labe”

Re: SWFA 10x laker #13975943 07/14/19 Joined: Dec 2002 Posts: 5,876 Seattle Brother Dave Campfire Tracker Brother Dave Campfire Tracker Joined: Dec 2002 Posts: 5,876 Seattle No one should talk that way about another person's family, nor post pics of someone else's family in that context. I'm not interested in going through endless other threads and comments; I see a picture, repeatedly posted, of good people I know and trash being said about them. Justify it as you like, it's not cool by anyone and 'someone else started it' is weak. You don't have to care what I think but I'm saying it just the same. Maybe I've done it somewhere in the past myself...if so I would be regretful. The most creative and vile insults cast to one another aren't even in the same league as posting pictures of other people's family members and talking about them the way some of you are.

Re: SWFA 10x Brother Dave #13975999 07/14/19 Joined: Jan 2010 Posts: 8,423 Wa west 🇱🇷 F fredIII Campfire Outfitter fredIII Campfire Outfitter F Joined: Jan 2010 Posts: 8,423 Wa west 🇱🇷 Originally Posted by Brother Dave No one should talk that way about another person's family, nor post pics of someone else's family in that context. I'm not interested in going through endless other threads and comments; I see a picture, repeatedly posted, of good people I know and trash being said about them. Justify it as you like, it's not cool by anyone and 'someone else started it' is weak. You don't have to care what I think but I'm saying it just the same. Maybe I've done it somewhere in the past myself...if so I would be regretful. The most creative and vile insults cast to one another aren't even in the same league as posting pictures of other people's family members and talking about them the way some of you are. You are welcome.

Re: SWFA 10x laker #13976007 07/14/19 Joined: Jan 2010 Posts: 8,423 Wa west 🇱🇷 F fredIII Campfire Outfitter fredIII Campfire Outfitter F Joined: Jan 2010 Posts: 8,423 Wa west 🇱🇷 You obviously have a problem you need to solve start with shutting sugartits up and the rest will solve its self.

Re: SWFA 10x laker #13976037 07/14/19 Joined: Jun 2007 Posts: 21,953 H HawkI Campfire Ranger HawkI Campfire Ranger H Joined: Jun 2007 Posts: 21,953 I'm most disgusted that Stick is posting "schit wares"; the [bleep] Hornady dies top the list....

Re: SWFA 10x laker #13976072 07/14/19 Joined: Jul 2009 Posts: 14,076 40 Years too Late H heavywalker Campfire Outfitter heavywalker Campfire Outfitter H Joined: Jul 2009 Posts: 14,076 40 Years too Late Facts are hard.... Larry is a POS. He decided to bring family into this and he is reaping what he has sowed. It may upset some people and that is understandable, but there is only one way this will stop and that is if Larry decides he wants it to stop and behaves as such. We all know how that is going to go so we could just skip the morality of this all and get on with it. Larry can continue his uber successful quest to be the coolest guy on the www and the rest of us will laugh our asses of at his plight.

Re: SWFA 10x Brother Dave #13976074 07/14/19 Joined: Aug 2009 Posts: 20,824 Hollywood irfubar Campfire Ranger irfubar Campfire Ranger Joined: Aug 2009 Posts: 20,824 Hollywood Originally Posted by Brother Dave No one should talk that way about another person's family, nor post pics of someone else's family in that context. I'm not interested in going through endless other threads and comments; I see a picture, repeatedly posted, of good people I know and trash being said about them. Justify it as you like, it's not cool by anyone and 'someone else started it' is weak. You don't have to care what I think but I'm saying it just the same. Maybe I've done it somewhere in the past myself...if so I would be regretful. The most creative and vile insults cast to one another aren't even in the same league as posting pictures of other people's family members and talking about them the way some of you are. Brother Dave , maybe your buddy Stick needs an intervention? maybe you should talk to him? Originally Posted by Judman PS, if you think Trump is “good” you’re way stupider than I thought! Haha Sorry, trump is a no tax payin pile of shiit.

Re: SWFA 10x Brother Dave #13976498 07/15/19 Joined: Apr 2005 Posts: 13,758 J JCMCUBIC Campfire Outfitter JCMCUBIC Campfire Outfitter J Joined: Apr 2005 Posts: 13,758 Originally Posted by Brother Dave No one should talk that way about another person's family, nor post pics of someone else's family in that context. I'm not interested in going through endless other threads and comments; I see a picture, repeatedly posted, of good people I know and trash being said about them. Justify it as you like, it's not cool by anyone and 'someone else started it' is weak. You don't have to care what I think but I'm saying it just the same. Maybe I've done it somewhere in the past myself...if so I would be regretful. The most creative and vile insults cast to one another aren't even in the same league as posting pictures of other people's family members and talking about them the way some of you are. Sling all the crap at each other you want. Cut on each other and laugh about it. Pulling family in, either side, and you're in competition to see who's the sorriest.....looks like the competition's tight as you're all in a fight to see who's the worst.

Re: SWFA 10x Beaver10 #13976873 07/15/19 Joined: Feb 2003 Posts: 10,361 WA rain forest Clarkm Campfire Outfitter Clarkm Campfire Outfitter Joined: Feb 2003 Posts: 10,361 WA rain forest Originally Posted by Beaver10 Clark, love the lightweight carbon handle on your 6.5/06 and your choice in spout manufacturer. Care to sell it?😎 Thank you for the kind words, but I think I have you fooled. My friends never stop riding me about the low quality of my amatuer gunsmthing. This week I added a volquartsen grip to a Ruger Mark II target pistol. It did not fit my hand, so I made it fit. A friend of mine said: That arrangement is an abomination of Satan. There is nothing noble in being superior to your fellow man; true nobility is being superior to your former self. -Ernest Hemingway The man who makes no mistakes does not usually make anything.-- Edward John Phelps

Re: SWFA 10x Mackay_Sagebrush #13976901 07/15/19 Joined: May 2009 Posts: 4,597 North VA A AH64guy Campfire Tracker AH64guy Campfire Tracker A Joined: May 2009 Posts: 4,597 North VA Originally Posted by Mackay_Sagebrush Originally Posted by laker Putting together a 6.5-06 and am thnking about putting a SWFA 10x on it. How do you guys like the 10x for shooting out to 600-700 yards? Gun is going to be used on a lot of coyote huntings and also up to elk. Do you feel underscoped at longer distances with the 10x? I run a 10X SWFA on one of my main hunting rifles and it is just fine. It has a number of elk to its credit. I know Scenar shooter on here also ran a fixed 10x (S&B) for years, and I believe he still does on a number of his guns. In regards to your question about feeling underscoped at longer distances with a 10x; Last year I shot my cow elk at a shade over 600 yards with my 20" 308 that is topped with a 2.5-10X NF. 10x is plenty. I just set my kids 20" .308 Tikka up with an SWFA 6X MIL/MIL and in playing with it, it is a pretty stellar all around package too, but for a 6.5-06 I would got with the 10X. My two cents - under 100 yards, the 10x is a soda straw view for me, and I've got to be paying more attention when I put the scope between my eye and the intended target. With 6x, its better for a close range view - a subjective evaluation - but I find that I have an easier time getting on target with the 6x than the 10x for woods hunting. At distance - 200+, I'm not under powered with 6x, but the 10x is easier on the aging eyesight for me. Last edited by AH64guy; 07/15/19.

Re: SWFA 10x laker #13977151 07/15/19 Joined: Feb 2003 Posts: 10,361 WA rain forest Clarkm Campfire Outfitter Clarkm Campfire Outfitter Joined: Feb 2003 Posts: 10,361 WA rain forest My problem is I want a 40X to sight in at 100y and a 2X to shoot a deer at 400y. There is nothing noble in being superior to your fellow man; true nobility is being superior to your former self. -Ernest Hemingway The man who makes no mistakes does not usually make anything.-- Edward John Phelps

Re: SWFA 10x Clarkm #13978378 07/15/19 Joined: Apr 2008 Posts: 17,107 MonDak V viking Campfire Ranger viking Campfire Ranger V Joined: Apr 2008 Posts: 17,107 MonDak Originally Posted by Clarkm Originally Posted by Beaver10 Clark, love the lightweight carbon handle on your 6.5/06 and your choice in spout manufacturer. Care to sell it?😎 Thank you for the kind words, but I think I have you fooled. My friends never stop riding me about the low quality of my amatuer gunsmthing. This week I added a volquartsen grip to a Ruger Mark II target pistol. It did not fit my hand, so I made it fit. A friend of mine said: That arrangement is an abomination of Satan. I got the same grip.

Re: SWFA 10x Brother Dave #13981200 07/16/19 Joined: Dec 2008 Posts: 21,167 N.. Newaukum, Washington J Judman Campfire Ranger Judman Campfire Ranger J Joined: Dec 2008 Posts: 21,167 N.. Newaukum, Washington Originally Posted by Brother Dave F.uck all you people making comments about her and the kids. You're as low-class as it gets and there's no excuse or justification for it. Dave, you are a hellava person, and even a better man, I respect your a opinion very much... We both know what's been goin on for over 15 years, it appears that maybe he's listened to you??? I for one hopes this shiit storm ends soon, hopefully this is it. Hope all is well up North.... Later Ping pong balls for the win. Once you've wrestled everything else in life is easy. Dan Gable I keep my circle small, I’d rather have 4 quarters than 100 pennies. Ain’t easy havin pals.

Re: SWFA 10x laker #13981227 07/16/19 Joined: Aug 2009 Posts: 20,824 Hollywood irfubar Campfire Ranger irfubar Campfire Ranger Joined: Aug 2009 Posts: 20,824 Hollywood I agree Jud, hopefully his friends have influence over him and can talk some sense into him. This nonsense can end... Originally Posted by Judman PS, if you think Trump is “good” you’re way stupider than I thought! Haha Sorry, trump is a no tax payin pile of shiit.

Re: SWFA 10x laker #13981243 07/16/19 Joined: Dec 2008 Posts: 21,167 N.. Newaukum, Washington J Judman Campfire Ranger Judman Campfire Ranger J Joined: Dec 2008 Posts: 21,167 N.. Newaukum, Washington Brain, it’s all fun to fuuck with folks, tease redass etc, but to be a complete fuucking [bleep], I’d put my buddy/pard in check, personally Ping pong balls for the win. Once you've wrestled everything else in life is easy. Dan Gable I keep my circle small, I’d rather have 4 quarters than 100 pennies. Ain’t easy havin pals.

Re: SWFA 10x laker #13981251 07/16/19 Joined: Dec 2008 Posts: 21,167 N.. Newaukum, Washington J Judman Campfire Ranger Judman Campfire Ranger J Joined: Dec 2008 Posts: 21,167 N.. Newaukum, Washington Matter of fact, I’ll go out on a limb here, I’ll see Larry headup, anywhere , say the next year, the loser NEVER posts here again..... we can set this up wherever he wants... Ping pong balls for the win. Once you've wrestled everything else in life is easy. Dan Gable I keep my circle small, I’d rather have 4 quarters than 100 pennies. Ain’t easy havin pals.

Re: SWFA 10x laker #13981255 07/16/19 Joined: Dec 2008 Posts: 21,167 N.. Newaukum, Washington J Judman Campfire Ranger Judman Campfire Ranger J Joined: Dec 2008 Posts: 21,167 N.. Newaukum, Washington I’ll take steelhead, same deal within 2 days of Larry, kinda a package deal... Ping pong balls for the win. Once you've wrestled everything else in life is easy. Dan Gable I keep my circle small, I’d rather have 4 quarters than 100 pennies. Ain’t easy havin pals.

Re: SWFA 10x Clarkm #13981543 07/16/19 Joined: Jan 2018 Posts: 23,506 Oregon Beaver10 Campfire Ranger Beaver10 Campfire Ranger Joined: Jan 2018 Posts: 23,506 Oregon Originally Posted by Clarkm Originally Posted by Beaver10 Clark, love the lightweight carbon handle on your 6.5/06 and your choice in spout manufacturer. Care to sell it?😎 Thank you for the kind words, but I think I have you fooled. My friends never stop riding me about the low quality of my amatuer gunsmthing. This week I added a volquartsen grip to a Ruger Mark II target pistol. It did not fit my hand, so I made it fit. A friend of mine said: That arrangement is an abomination of Satan. Agreeing here with your friends...That grip is ugly...But the rifle has promise. Grins 😎 Curiosity Killed the Cat & The Prairie Dog “Molon Labe”

Re: SWFA 10x laker #13981928 07/17/19 Joined: Feb 2010 Posts: 17,927 1 16bore Campfire Ranger 16bore Campfire Ranger 1 Joined: Feb 2010 Posts: 17,927 Funny..... 24 Hr has bad boys.....

Re: SWFA 10x laker #13981994 07/17/19 Joined: Dec 2008 Posts: 21,167 N.. Newaukum, Washington J Judman Campfire Ranger Judman Campfire Ranger J Joined: Dec 2008 Posts: 21,167 N.. Newaukum, Washington Oh wow..... Ping pong balls for the win. Once you've wrestled everything else in life is easy. Dan Gable I keep my circle small, I’d rather have 4 quarters than 100 pennies. Ain’t easy havin pals.

Re: SWFA 10x 16bore #13982079 07/17/19 Joined: Jul 2015 Posts: 14,682 Tyrone Campfire Outfitter Tyrone Campfire Outfitter Joined: Jul 2015 Posts: 14,682 Originally Posted by 16bore Funny..... 24 Hr has bad boys..... Some pussies just love to be flogged. Politics is War by Other Means

Re: SWFA 10x laker #13982164 07/17/19 Joined: May 2002 Posts: 4,073 WA to NM erich Campfire Tracker erich Campfire Tracker Joined: May 2002 Posts: 4,073 WA to NM I'm going to add my $.02 worth in. I'll admit I only read 7 pages of this, I got pretty tired of the BS with only about one post per page that was actually about the subject. Any fixed scope over 6x(and I'm being kind, wouldn't have a fixed six for hunting either other than stand hunting over a food plot or feeder) is fine for long distance if you are a great shot. If you can put the first cold bore shot from field positions in a desert plate sized target, if you can't there is a chance that you are going to have to get in close to put a kill shot in. A good 2-5-10 or 3-15 would be a much better choice in my book. Learning to hunt so you don't have to take a 700 yard shot would be even better. After the first shot the rest are just noise. Make mine a Minaska Heaven has walls and rules, H-ll has open borders

Re: SWFA 10x laker #13982168 07/17/19 Joined: Aug 2006 Posts: 22,911 Kiowa/Deer Trail, Colorado huntsman22 Campfire Ranger huntsman22 Campfire Ranger Joined: Aug 2006 Posts: 22,911 Kiowa/Deer Trail, Colorado I like to use Kalahari desert plates.....

Re: SWFA 10x 16bore #13982250 07/17/19 Joined: Jan 2010 Posts: 8,423 Wa west 🇱🇷 F fredIII Campfire Outfitter fredIII Campfire Outfitter F Joined: Jan 2010 Posts: 8,423 Wa west 🇱🇷 Originally Posted by 16bore Funny..... 24 Hr has bad boys..... Holy shït

Re: SWFA 10x laker #13982262 07/17/19 Joined: Jan 2010 Posts: 8,423 Wa west 🇱🇷 F fredIII Campfire Outfitter fredIII Campfire Outfitter F Joined: Jan 2010 Posts: 8,423 Wa west 🇱🇷 Partman they made that stupid site for sugartits because rick kicked him off the fire for being a racist pos. You should call your mom if she’s alive and apologize I’m sure she didn’t raise you to be A so SLOW . But she is disappointed no doubt Last edited by fredIII; 07/17/19.

Re: SWFA 10x laker #13982265 07/17/19 Joined: Feb 2001 Posts: 4,571 The Claw, WA D Dogshooter Campfire Tracker Dogshooter Campfire Tracker D Joined: Feb 2001 Posts: 4,571 The Claw, WA If you can’t shoot a 10x at everything from 10 yards to 1000 yards...... then you should open the other eye. Learning to run an optic (or sights) with both eyes open is a paramount shooting skill.... but also somewhat of a lost art. Good cheekweld helps here too... but that’s also addressed very little anymore. Seriously..... I ran a fixed 12x Leupold on a dedicated coyote rifle for about 10 years.... and killed 100’s of dogs wig it.... many at powder-burn range. You better pray to the God of Skinny Punks that this wind doesn't pick up......

Re: SWFA 10x laker #13982312 07/17/19 Joined: Jan 2018 Posts: 23,506 Oregon Beaver10 Campfire Ranger Beaver10 Campfire Ranger Joined: Jan 2018 Posts: 23,506 Oregon The dude that keeps telling Partsman to GFY is hilarious....Partsman.....whine, cry, sniffles, 24hrcf mean. Other poster GFY! 😎 Curiosity Killed the Cat & The Prairie Dog “Molon Labe”

Re: SWFA 10x laker #13982331 07/17/19 Joined: Dec 2008 Posts: 21,167 N.. Newaukum, Washington J Judman Campfire Ranger Judman Campfire Ranger J Joined: Dec 2008 Posts: 21,167 N.. Newaukum, Washington Wish more companies made fixed 8 or 10x glass Ping pong balls for the win. Once you've wrestled everything else in life is easy. Dan Gable I keep my circle small, I’d rather have 4 quarters than 100 pennies. Ain’t easy havin pals.

Re: SWFA 10x Judman #13982349 07/17/19 Joined: Jan 2018 Posts: 23,506 Oregon Beaver10 Campfire Ranger Beaver10 Campfire Ranger Joined: Jan 2018 Posts: 23,506 Oregon Originally Posted by Judman Wish more companies made fixed 8 or 10x glass Never liked a fixed scope on much, other than rimfire or timber guns...😎 Curiosity Killed the Cat & The Prairie Dog “Molon Labe”

Re: SWFA 10x laker #13982358 07/17/19 Joined: Dec 2008 Posts: 21,167 N.. Newaukum, Washington J Judman Campfire Ranger Judman Campfire Ranger J Joined: Dec 2008 Posts: 21,167 N.. Newaukum, Washington Me neither 6 has never quite been enough for me Ping pong balls for the win. Once you've wrestled everything else in life is easy. Dan Gable I keep my circle small, I’d rather have 4 quarters than 100 pennies. Ain’t easy havin pals.

Re: SWFA 10x laker #13982454 07/17/19 Joined: Aug 2009 Posts: 20,824 Hollywood irfubar Campfire Ranger irfubar Campfire Ranger Joined: Aug 2009 Posts: 20,824 Hollywood How about a Super Sniper in 8x with a low profile elevation and capped windage? that would be the shizzle Originally Posted by Judman PS, if you think Trump is “good” you’re way stupider than I thought! Haha Sorry, trump is a no tax payin pile of shiit.

Re: SWFA 10x 16bore #13982461 07/17/19 Joined: Aug 2009 Posts: 20,824 Hollywood irfubar Campfire Ranger irfubar Campfire Ranger Joined: Aug 2009 Posts: 20,824 Hollywood Originally Posted by 16bore Funny..... 24 Hr has bad boys..... That was fun reading Partsman & Big Stick give each other reach around's.......... ass suckin at it's finest Originally Posted by Judman PS, if you think Trump is “good” you’re way stupider than I thought! Haha Sorry, trump is a no tax payin pile of shiit.

Re: SWFA 10x irfubar #13982470 07/17/19 Joined: Feb 2001 Posts: 4,571 The Claw, WA D Dogshooter Campfire Tracker Dogshooter Campfire Tracker D Joined: Feb 2001 Posts: 4,571 The Claw, WA Originally Posted by irfubar How about a Super Sniper in 8x with a low profile elevation and capped windage? that would be the shizzle Leupold used to make a 7.5x and an 8x... they were both great scopes. I’d love a fixed 8 as you described.... especially with the 6x style MQ in it.... or even a straight mil-dot. You better pray to the God of Skinny Punks that this wind doesn't pick up......

Re: SWFA 10x Dogshooter #13982525 07/17/19 Joined: Jan 2010 Posts: 8,423 Wa west 🇱🇷 F fredIII Campfire Outfitter fredIII Campfire Outfitter F Joined: Jan 2010 Posts: 8,423 Wa west 🇱🇷 Originally Posted by Dogshooter Originally Posted by irfubar How about a Super Sniper in 8x with a low profile elevation and capped windage? that would be the shizzle Leupold used to make a 7.5x and an 8x... they were both great scopes. I’d love a fixed 8 as you described.... especially with the 6x style MQ in it.... or even a straight mil-dot. If I went the fixed route S&B would be a must. the camera land exclusive is pretty nice. Last edited by fredIII; 07/17/19.

Re: SWFA 10x Dogshooter #13982529 07/17/19 Joined: Dec 2008 Posts: 21,167 N.. Newaukum, Washington J Judman Campfire Ranger Judman Campfire Ranger J Joined: Dec 2008 Posts: 21,167 N.. Newaukum, Washington Originally Posted by Dogshooter Originally Posted by irfubar How about a Super Sniper in 8x with a low profile elevation and capped windage? that would be the shizzle Leupold used to make a 7.5x and an 8x... they were both great scopes. I’d love a fixed 8 as you described.... especially with the 6x style MQ in it.... or even a straight mil-dot. 👍 Ping pong balls for the win. Once you've wrestled everything else in life is easy. Dan Gable I keep my circle small, I’d rather have 4 quarters than 100 pennies. Ain’t easy havin pals.

Re: SWFA 10x fredIII #13982534 07/17/19 Joined: Aug 2009 Posts: 20,824 Hollywood irfubar Campfire Ranger irfubar Campfire Ranger Joined: Aug 2009 Posts: 20,824 Hollywood Originally Posted by fredIII Originally Posted by Dogshooter Originally Posted by irfubar How about a Super Sniper in 8x with a low profile elevation and capped windage? that would be the shizzle Leupold used to make a 7.5x and an 8x... they were both great scopes. I’d love a fixed 8 as you described.... especially with the 6x style MQ in it.... or even a straight mil-dot. If I went the fixed route S&B would be a must. the camera land exclusive is pretty nice. Fred I know Pat (scenar) loves the 10x S&B and it must be tough to hold up to his abuse. Is that camera land special a 6X? I just have a hard time wrapping my head around the $2500 price tag Originally Posted by Judman PS, if you think Trump is “good” you’re way stupider than I thought! Haha Sorry, trump is a no tax payin pile of shiit.

Re: SWFA 10x laker #13982549 07/17/19 Joined: Feb 2001 Posts: 4,571 The Claw, WA D Dogshooter Campfire Tracker Dogshooter Campfire Tracker D Joined: Feb 2001 Posts: 4,571 The Claw, WA 10x SS HD is pretty bad ass, and much more refined than the standard Fixed Fugger. You better pray to the God of Skinny Punks that this wind doesn't pick up......

Re: SWFA 10x laker #13982562 07/17/19 Joined: Jan 2010 Posts: 8,423 Wa west 🇱🇷 F fredIII Campfire Outfitter fredIII Campfire Outfitter F Joined: Jan 2010 Posts: 8,423 Wa west 🇱🇷 https://cameralandny.com/shop/schmi...=1751661?query=%20Schmidt%20and%20bender I’m a MOA slut so it’s no go for me but if I had to do x6 only I would probably get a mil scale cheater with it.

Re: SWFA 10x Dogshooter #13982565 07/17/19 Joined: Aug 2005 Posts: 15,647 Coues Country G GregW Campfire Ranger GregW Campfire Ranger G Joined: Aug 2005 Posts: 15,647 Coues Country Originally Posted by Dogshooter 10x SS HD is pretty bad ass, and much more refined than the standard Fixed Fugger. One of my favorite scopes.... - Greg Success is found at the intersection of planning, hard work, and stubbornness.

Re: SWFA 10x Dogshooter #13982568 07/17/19 Joined: Jan 2010 Posts: 8,423 Wa west 🇱🇷 F fredIII Campfire Outfitter fredIII Campfire Outfitter F Joined: Jan 2010 Posts: 8,423 Wa west 🇱🇷 Originally Posted by Dogshooter 10x SS HD is pretty bad ass, and much more refined than the standard Fixed Fugger. The classic SS is just serviceable. The reality is the glass is like old 1989’s Leupold. Last edited by fredIII; 07/17/19.

Re: SWFA 10x fredIII #13982575 07/17/19 Joined: Feb 2001 Posts: 4,571 The Claw, WA D Dogshooter Campfire Tracker Dogshooter Campfire Tracker D Joined: Feb 2001 Posts: 4,571 The Claw, WA Originally Posted by fredIII Originally Posted by Dogshooter 10x SS HD is pretty bad ass, and much more refined than the standard Fixed Fugger. The classic SS is just serviceable. The reality is the glass is like old 1989’s Leupold. “Reallity” is... I’ve never had any issue with the glass on a FF in any real hunting situation. It’s more than serviceable. You better pray to the God of Skinny Punks that this wind doesn't pick up......

Re: SWFA 10x Dogshooter #13982589 07/17/19 Joined: Jan 2010 Posts: 8,423 Wa west 🇱🇷 F fredIII Campfire Outfitter fredIII Campfire Outfitter F Joined: Jan 2010 Posts: 8,423 Wa west 🇱🇷 Originally Posted by Dogshooter Originally Posted by fredIII Originally Posted by Dogshooter 10x SS HD is pretty bad ass, and much more refined than the standard Fixed Fugger. The classic SS is just serviceable. The reality is the glass is like old 1989’s Leupold. “Reallity” is... I’ve never had any issue with the glass on a FF in any real hunting situation. It’s more than serviceable. The rain and timber on the coast left me not loving the SS Classics

Re: SWFA 10x fredIII #13982592 07/17/19 Joined: Jan 2010 Posts: 8,423 Wa west 🇱🇷 F fredIII Campfire Outfitter fredIII Campfire Outfitter F Joined: Jan 2010 Posts: 8,423 Wa west 🇱🇷 Originally Posted by fredIII Originally Posted by Dogshooter Originally Posted by fredIII Originally Posted by Dogshooter 10x SS HD is pretty bad ass, and much more refined than the standard Fixed Fugger. The classic SS is just serviceable. The reality is the glass is like old 1989’s Leupold. “Reallity” is... I’ve never had any issue with the glass on a FF in any real hunting situation. It’s more than serviceable. The rain and timber on the coast left me not loving the SS Classics I do love them for east side of Wa gopher killing and dry crop farm land

Re: SWFA 10x laker #13982593 07/17/19 Joined: Jan 2010 Posts: 8,423 Wa west 🇱🇷 F fredIII Campfire Outfitter fredIII Campfire Outfitter F Joined: Jan 2010 Posts: 8,423 Wa west 🇱🇷 They almost never make the top tier rifles I hunt with a ton.

Re: SWFA 10x laker #13982629 07/17/19 Joined: Feb 2001 Posts: 4,571 The Claw, WA D Dogshooter Campfire Tracker Dogshooter Campfire Tracker D Joined: Feb 2001 Posts: 4,571 The Claw, WA Mine have seen a rainforest or two.... You better pray to the God of Skinny Punks that this wind doesn't pick up......

Re: SWFA 10x laker #13982642 07/17/19 Joined: May 2004 Posts: 1,647 2 270jrk Campfire Regular 270jrk Campfire Regular 2 Joined: May 2004 Posts: 1,647 Hey guys tell me more about the 10x HD, I love my 3-9HD's, and I like the 10x classic okay.

Re: SWFA 10x 270jrk #13982653 07/17/19 Joined: Jan 2010 Posts: 8,423 Wa west 🇱🇷 F fredIII Campfire Outfitter fredIII Campfire Outfitter F Joined: Jan 2010 Posts: 8,423 Wa west 🇱🇷 Originally Posted by 270jrk Hey guys tell me more about the 10x HD, I love my 3-9HD's, and I like the 10x classic okay. I would like to know as well the ten X is not good enough for a classy fûcker like me.

Re: SWFA 10x laker #13982672 07/17/19 Joined: Jan 2010 Posts: 8,423 Wa west 🇱🇷 F fredIII Campfire Outfitter fredIII Campfire Outfitter F Joined: Jan 2010 Posts: 8,423 Wa west 🇱🇷 With 100” of water a year. Dog they are mechanically like a anvil I just can’t love them enough to go with one on a dedicated hunting rig 😉😂😂😂😂 Love frud.

Re: SWFA 10x laker #13982684 07/17/19 Joined: Jan 2010 Posts: 8,423 Wa west 🇱🇷 F fredIII Campfire Outfitter fredIII Campfire Outfitter F Joined: Jan 2010 Posts: 8,423 Wa west 🇱🇷 Going up. 🛩🎡

Re: SWFA 10x fredIII #13982769 07/17/19 Joined: Oct 2014 Posts: 4,755 Skagit County, WA Y Yondering Campfire Tracker Yondering Campfire Tracker Y Joined: Oct 2014 Posts: 4,755 Skagit County, WA Originally Posted by fredIII With 100” of water a year. Dog they are mechanically like a anvil I just can’t love them enough to go with one on a dedicated hunting rig 😉😂😂😂😂 Love frud. I'm from the same area (Skagit for me, I think you're a little farther south?) and share your opinion of the standard 6x and 10x. Good tough scope, great reticle, but I sure don't love the glass, especially in the cloudy evenings when it's kinda damp and gloomy here on the wet side.

Re: SWFA 10x laker #13982787 07/17/19 Joined: Mar 2006 Posts: 14,483 Calgary, AB, Canada Jordan Smith Campfire Outfitter Jordan Smith Campfire Outfitter Joined: Mar 2006 Posts: 14,483 Calgary, AB, Canada The standard classics may not have the brightest glass, but their resolution is extremely good, and the ability to handle adverse atmospheric conditions is phenomenal.

Re: SWFA 10x laker #13982788 07/17/19 Joined: Feb 2001 Posts: 4,571 The Claw, WA D Dogshooter Campfire Tracker Dogshooter Campfire Tracker D Joined: Feb 2001 Posts: 4,571 The Claw, WA Whatcom County.... north of both of you.... you just gotta get above all that rain and dreariness..... You better pray to the God of Skinny Punks that this wind doesn't pick up......

Re: SWFA 10x laker #13982796 07/17/19 Joined: Dec 2008 Posts: 21,167 N.. Newaukum, Washington J Judman Campfire Ranger Judman Campfire Ranger J Joined: Dec 2008 Posts: 21,167 N.. Newaukum, Washington Nice country up there josh Ping pong balls for the win. Once you've wrestled everything else in life is easy. Dan Gable I keep my circle small, I’d rather have 4 quarters than 100 pennies. Ain’t easy havin pals.

Re: SWFA 10x laker #13982801 07/17/19 Joined: Dec 2008 Posts: 21,167 N.. Newaukum, Washington J Judman Campfire Ranger Judman Campfire Ranger J Joined: Dec 2008 Posts: 21,167 N.. Newaukum, Washington Can’t believe you packed a couch up there though!!! 🤣🤣 Ping pong balls for the win. Once you've wrestled everything else in life is easy. Dan Gable I keep my circle small, I’d rather have 4 quarters than 100 pennies. Ain’t easy havin pals.

Re: SWFA 10x laker #13982822 07/17/19 Joined: Feb 2001 Posts: 4,571 The Claw, WA D Dogshooter Campfire Tracker Dogshooter Campfire Tracker D Joined: Feb 2001 Posts: 4,571 The Claw, WA Yeah.... but it was only a love seat..... You better pray to the God of Skinny Punks that this wind doesn't pick up......

Re: SWFA 10x Dogshooter #13982887 07/17/19 Joined: Dec 2008 Posts: 21,167 N.. Newaukum, Washington J Judman Campfire Ranger Judman Campfire Ranger J Joined: Dec 2008 Posts: 21,167 N.. Newaukum, Washington 😂😂 Ping pong balls for the win. Once you've wrestled everything else in life is easy. Dan Gable I keep my circle small, I’d rather have 4 quarters than 100 pennies. Ain’t easy havin pals.

Re: SWFA 10x laker #13982961 07/17/19 Joined: Feb 2010 Posts: 17,927 1 16bore Campfire Ranger 16bore Campfire Ranger 1 Joined: Feb 2010 Posts: 17,927 Worth a read.... https://www.24hourcampfire.com/ubbt...-reticle-turrets-and-proper-usage#UNREAD

Re: SWFA 10x irfubar #13983030 07/17/19 Joined: Apr 2005 Posts: 13,758 J JCMCUBIC Campfire Outfitter JCMCUBIC Campfire Outfitter J Joined: Apr 2005 Posts: 13,758 Originally Posted by irfubar Originally Posted by fredIII Originally Posted by Dogshooter Originally Posted by irfubar How about a Super Sniper in 8x with a low profile elevation and capped windage? that would be the shizzle Leupold used to make a 7.5x and an 8x... they were both great scopes. I’d love a fixed 8 as you described.... especially with the 6x style MQ in it.... or even a straight mil-dot. If I went the fixed route S&B would be a must. the camera land exclusive is pretty nice. Fred I know Pat (scenar) loves the 10x S&B and it must be tough to hold up to his abuse. Is that camera land special a 6X? I just have a hard time wrapping my head around the $2500 price tag The 6x PMII is a fair bit less than $2500 if that's the one you were referring to(?). I think Fred linked to it. I've used one for a while now and REALLY like it...but I'm a fixed 6 junkie.....

Re: SWFA 10x JCMCUBIC #13983074 07/17/19 Joined: Dec 2008 Posts: 21,167 N.. Newaukum, Washington J Judman Campfire Ranger Judman Campfire Ranger J Joined: Dec 2008 Posts: 21,167 N.. Newaukum, Washington Originally Posted by JCMCUBIC Originally Posted by irfubar Originally Posted by fredIII Originally Posted by Dogshooter Originally Posted by irfubar How about a Super Sniper in 8x with a low profile elevation and capped windage? that would be the shizzle Leupold used to make a 7.5x and an 8x... they were both great scopes. I’d love a fixed 8 as you described.... especially with the 6x style MQ in it.... or even a straight mil-dot. If I went the fixed route S&B would be a must. the camera land exclusive is pretty nice. Fred I know Pat (scenar) loves the 10x S&B and it must be tough to hold up to his abuse. Is that camera land special a 6X? I just have a hard time wrapping my head around the $2500 price tag The 6x PMII is a fair bit less than $2500 if that's the one you were referring to(?). I think Fred linked to it. I've used one for a while now and REALLY like it...but I'm a fixed 6 junkie..... Ya look likec$2000 Ping pong balls for the win. Once you've wrestled everything else in life is easy. Dan Gable I keep my circle small, I’d rather have 4 quarters than 100 pennies. Ain’t easy havin pals.

Re: SWFA 10x Judman #13983336 07/17/19 Joined: Apr 2005 Posts: 13,758 J JCMCUBIC Campfire Outfitter JCMCUBIC Campfire Outfitter J Joined: Apr 2005 Posts: 13,758 Originally Posted by fredIII https://cameralandny.com/shop/schmi...=1751661?query=%20Schmidt%20and%20bender I’m a MOA slut so it’s no go for me but if I had to do x6 only I would probably get a mil scale cheater with it. Originally Posted by Judman ........ Ya look likec$2000 I'm seeing $1867...?

Re: SWFA 10x laker #13983358 07/17/19 Joined: Dec 2008 Posts: 21,167 N.. Newaukum, Washington J Judman Campfire Ranger Judman Campfire Ranger J Joined: Dec 2008 Posts: 21,167 N.. Newaukum, Washington Who ya got? I just did a quick search jc. Ping pong balls for the win. Once you've wrestled everything else in life is easy. Dan Gable I keep my circle small, I’d rather have 4 quarters than 100 pennies. Ain’t easy havin pals.

Re: SWFA 10x laker #13983376 07/17/19 Joined: Apr 2005 Posts: 13,758 J JCMCUBIC Campfire Outfitter JCMCUBIC Campfire Outfitter J Joined: Apr 2005 Posts: 13,758 Follow the link in Fred's post

Re: SWFA 10x laker #13983392 07/17/19 Joined: Dec 2008 Posts: 21,167 N.. Newaukum, Washington J Judman Campfire Ranger Judman Campfire Ranger J Joined: Dec 2008 Posts: 21,167 N.. Newaukum, Washington Got it, I was talking 10-42, they were $2000. Ping pong balls for the win. Once you've wrestled everything else in life is easy. Dan Gable I keep my circle small, I’d rather have 4 quarters than 100 pennies. Ain’t easy havin pals.

Re: SWFA 10x laker #13983450 07/17/19 Joined: Mar 2007 Posts: 20,202 T_Inman Campfire Ranger T_Inman Campfire Ranger Joined: Mar 2007 Posts: 20,202 Concerning the Schmidt & Bender 6x42 and 10x42 that are on Camera Land's website, I am assuming the "FFP" in the titles refer to First Focal Plane, but these are fixed power scopes. Am I missing something?

Re: SWFA 10x laker #13983471 07/17/19 Joined: May 2009 Posts: 4,597 North VA A AH64guy Campfire Tracker AH64guy Campfire Tracker A Joined: May 2009 Posts: 4,597 North VA No - you’re reading it as advertised, and they are fixed power. S&B refers to these scopes as “First Focal Plane” in their catalogs and in the scope book with the scope. If the recticle is positioned in the scope ahead of the magnification, whether it moves or not, the scope would “technically” be first focal plane, though most of us wouldn’t call it that. Last edited by AH64guy; 07/17/19.

Re: SWFA 10x laker #13984130 07/18/19 Joined: Apr 2005 Posts: 13,758 J JCMCUBIC Campfire Outfitter JCMCUBIC Campfire Outfitter J Joined: Apr 2005 Posts: 13,758 My bad Jud, I was talking 6x. I was surprised to see the $1867 price as that's lower than they were initially going for. I'm not sure if there is some pro/con on FFP in a fixed (or variable) power scope related to something besides reticle size......

Re: SWFA 10x AH64guy #13984474 07/18/19 Joined: Mar 2007 Posts: 20,202 T_Inman Campfire Ranger T_Inman Campfire Ranger Joined: Mar 2007 Posts: 20,202 Originally Posted by AH64guy No - you’re reading it as advertised, and they are fixed power. S&B refers to these scopes as “First Focal Plane” in their catalogs and in the scope book with the scope. If the recticle is positioned in the scope ahead of the magnification, whether it moves or not, the scope would “technically” be first focal plane, though most of us wouldn’t call it that. Gotcha. That makes sense. Thanks for that.

Re: SWFA 10x Dogshooter #13984928 07/18/19 Joined: Oct 2014 Posts: 4,755 Skagit County, WA Y Yondering Campfire Tracker Yondering Campfire Tracker Y Joined: Oct 2014 Posts: 4,755 Skagit County, WA Originally Posted by Dogshooter Yeah.... but it was only a love seat..... Yeah we take our couches up there too... Other direction from the same spot: Last edited by Yondering; 07/18/19.

Re: SWFA 10x laker #13985111 07/18/19 Joined: Nov 2018 Posts: 1,488 C Cascade Campfire Regular Cascade Campfire Regular C Joined: Nov 2018 Posts: 1,488 Nice photos there Yonderling. The Pacific Northwest sure has some great scenery! Guy

Re: SWFA 10x laker #13985117 07/18/19 Joined: Mar 2018 Posts: 3,445 SheriffJoe Campfire Tracker SheriffJoe Campfire Tracker Joined: Mar 2018 Posts: 3,445 Here are a few photos of a tiny section: https://www.summitpost.org/object_l...p;orderby=object_scores.score&page=1 Steph Abegg's site will educate you on what to expect in attempting ventures in this tiny area. Other areas can be viewed on summitpost...even mountains in your local region. Don't ask me about my military service or heroic acts...most of it is untrue. Pronoun: Yes, SIR !

Re: SWFA 10x Jordan Smith #14009664 07/28/19 Joined: Oct 2016 Posts: 1,688 T Trystan Campfire Regular Trystan Campfire Regular T Joined: Oct 2016 Posts: 1,688 Originally Posted by Jordan Smith The standard classics may not have the brightest glass, but their resolution is extremely good, and the ability to handle adverse atmospheric conditions is phenomenal. IME the fixed 6 is brighter and clarity beats the 2 fixed 10s I've had. For a dedicated hunting rig I will take the 6 every time. Good bullets properly placed always work, but not everyone knows what good bullets are, or can reliably place them in the field

Re: SWFA 10x Trystan #14009707 07/28/19 Joined: Mar 2006 Posts: 14,483 Calgary, AB, Canada Jordan Smith Campfire Outfitter Jordan Smith Campfire Outfitter Joined: Mar 2006 Posts: 14,483 Calgary, AB, Canada I have many of each model, and I would agree that the 6x is brighter, but the clarity in both is very, very good. I would also take the 6x for a dedicated hunting rig, and the 10x every time for target use or for a dedicated open-country rifle.

Re: SWFA 10x Jordan Smith #14010759 07/29/19 Joined: Oct 2016 Posts: 1,688 T Trystan Campfire Regular Trystan Campfire Regular T Joined: Oct 2016 Posts: 1,688 Originally Posted by Jordan Smith I have many of each model, and I would agree that the 6x is brighter, but the clarity in both is very, very good. I would also take the 6x for a dedicated hunting rig, and the 10x every time for target use or for a dedicated open-country rifle. The 10s I had still have one I bought over 10 years ago. My fixed 6 is 3 years. I wonder if glass on the newer 10s is better than the older ones? I might have to try another 10. Could be my eyes or I picked the wrong run of 10s to buy from Trystan Last edited by Trystan; 07/29/19. Good bullets properly placed always work, but not everyone knows what good bullets are, or can reliably place them in the field

Re: SWFA 10x laker #14010783 07/29/19 Joined: Oct 2014 Posts: 4,755 Skagit County, WA Y Yondering Campfire Tracker Yondering Campfire Tracker Y Joined: Oct 2014 Posts: 4,755 Skagit County, WA I only have one 6x and one 10x, but would not consider the brightness or clarity of either one "very very good". They are perfectly fine in bright light, but in my experience are a step behind even a VX-2 in low light, like cloudy Northwest evenings. In that respect they are acceptable, but not excellent. Obviously these scopes have other things going for them, but IMO the glass is not their strong point. I should add that my 1-4x was in the same ballpark, while the 3-9x HD is better but still not Leupold quality glass in low light (for my sample of 1). Last edited by Yondering; 07/29/19.

Re: SWFA 10x laker #14010799 07/29/19 Joined: Feb 2001 Posts: 4,571 The Claw, WA D Dogshooter Campfire Tracker Dogshooter Campfire Tracker D Joined: Feb 2001 Posts: 4,571 The Claw, WA “Glass”, is entirely overrated in riflescopes. They’re aiming devices.... not observation devices. The clarity and resolution needs to be good enough for steering bullets.... not counting gnat nuthairs. I think VX2 level glass is a good comparison to the Classic Fixed SS scopes.... and that’s more than adequate for all my hunting needs. The HD series has excellent glass, and is noticeably better than the classics. I’ve been shooting 10x and 12x Super Snipers since LONG before they became popular here.... and long before the advent of the Mil-Quad reticle. I’ve used them all over the West, including a lot of time in PNW rainforests.... and I’ve never wanted/needed “better glass”. You better pray to the God of Skinny Punks that this wind doesn't pick up......

Re: SWFA 10x Yondering #14010842 07/29/19 Joined: Mar 2006 Posts: 14,483 Calgary, AB, Canada Jordan Smith Campfire Outfitter Jordan Smith Campfire Outfitter Joined: Mar 2006 Posts: 14,483 Calgary, AB, Canada While the brightness and contrast may not appear all that impressive, the resolution of the 6x and 10x, especially in poor atmospheric conditions, has outpaced plenty of scopes costing a lot more, even up to 10x more than the SS classics. IME/IMO the 6x and 10x have VX2-VX3 quality glass (but I would argue that they have better resolution than the Leups), while the 3-9xHD outpaces the VX3 of similar mag range. Everyone's eyes are different, but that's my opinion and that of some of my shooting buds.

Re: SWFA 10x Jordan Smith #14010868 07/29/19 Joined: Jun 2004 Posts: 44,819 M mathman Campfire 'Bwana mathman Campfire 'Bwana M Joined: Jun 2004 Posts: 44,819 A couple of weekends ago I was talking with a younger fellow at the range. We were talking about scopes for different purposes. he said something about needing more magnification than he had to "really home in" on target. One of the rifles I was shooting that day had 6x SWFA on it. I set the parallax adjustment to 300 yards, and without telling him it was 6x I handed him the rifle and got him to focus the reticle to his eyes. Then I had him look at some stuff on the 300 yard target board. When I told him it was "only 6x" he was impressed.

Re: SWFA 10x laker #14011015 07/29/19 Joined: Feb 2010 Posts: 17,927 1 16bore Campfire Ranger 16bore Campfire Ranger 1 Joined: Feb 2010 Posts: 17,927 The center of the center is the center. My buddy used to say he needed “more x’s” then complain about not being able to get the crosshairs to “settle”, the being able to see his heartbeat in the scope.

Re: SWFA 10x Jordan Smith #14011281 07/29/19 Joined: Oct 2016 Posts: 1,688 T Trystan Campfire Regular Trystan Campfire Regular T Joined: Oct 2016 Posts: 1,688 Originally Posted by Jordan Smith While the brightness and contrast may not appear all that impressive, the resolution of the 6x and 10x, especially in poor atmospheric conditions, has outpaced plenty of scopes costing a lot more, even up to 10x more than the SS classics. IME/IMO the 6x and 10x have VX2-VX3 quality glass (but I would argue that they have better resolution than the Leups), while the 3-9xHD outpaces the VX3 of similar mag range. Everyone's eyes are different, but that's my opinion and that of some of my shooting buds. In comparing the glass on my SS 6 to a leupold VX2 I thought the SS 6 had noticeably better resolution as well Trystan Trystan Good bullets properly placed always work, but not everyone knows what good bullets are, or can reliably place them in the field

Re: SWFA 10x Jordan Smith #14012876 07/30/19 Joined: Oct 2014 Posts: 4,755 Skagit County, WA Y Yondering Campfire Tracker Yondering Campfire Tracker Y Joined: Oct 2014 Posts: 4,755 Skagit County, WA Originally Posted by Jordan Smith While the brightness and contrast may not appear all that impressive, the resolution of the 6x and 10x, especially in poor atmospheric conditions, has outpaced plenty of scopes costing a lot more, even up to 10x more than the SS classics. IME/IMO the 6x and 10x have VX2-VX3 quality glass (but I would argue that they have better resolution than the Leups), while the 3-9xHD outpaces the VX3 of similar mag range. Everyone's eyes are different, but that's my opinion and that of some of my shooting buds. We'll agree to disagree on that. Side by side comparisons of both don't show me what you're saying; I'm seeing the opposite, particularly in low light. I have excellent vision so that's not the issue.

Re: SWFA 10x Yondering #14012944 07/30/19 Joined: Mar 2006 Posts: 14,483 Calgary, AB, Canada Jordan Smith Campfire Outfitter Jordan Smith Campfire Outfitter Joined: Mar 2006 Posts: 14,483 Calgary, AB, Canada I can live with that. Again, people's eyes are different. Perceived optical performance is a much more subjective topic than something like mechanical performance. But keep in mind that I'm basing my opinion off of many samples of 6x, 10x, and 3-9x SS scopes, and several VX2 2-7x, 3-9x, and a couple of VX3 2.5-8x scopes. I've used and compared them all in daylight, low light, heavy mirage, clear air, rain, fog, etc.

Re: SWFA 10x laker #14012968 07/30/19 Joined: Feb 2003 Posts: 10,361 WA rain forest Clarkm Campfire Outfitter Clarkm Campfire Outfitter Joined: Feb 2003 Posts: 10,361 WA rain forest I have a lot of glaucoma damage to my eyes, especially my shooting eye, but to me comparing my IOR scopes to my Leupold scopes the IOR wins on resolution and the Leupold wins on color spotting. The resolution of an IOR on 10X is the same to me as a Leupold at 12X. The Leupold is better at finding a brown ground squirrel on brown dirt, by picking up on a few Golden stripes. There is nothing noble in being superior to your fellow man; true nobility is being superior to your former self. -Ernest Hemingway The man who makes no mistakes does not usually make anything.-- Edward John Phelps

Re: SWFA 10x laker #14013136 07/30/19 Joined: Feb 2010 Posts: 17,927 1 16bore Campfire Ranger 16bore Campfire Ranger 1 Joined: Feb 2010 Posts: 17,927 My understanding is coatings effect what people see differently. I remember a Nikon Monarch I had that was exceptional.

Re: SWFA 10x Dogshooter #14014651 07/31/19 Joined: Jul 2014 Posts: 2,556 Nebraska S sbhooper Campfire Regular sbhooper Campfire Regular S Joined: Jul 2014 Posts: 2,556 Nebraska Originally Posted by Dogshooter “Glass”, is entirely overrated in riflescopes. They’re aiming devices.... not observation devices. The clarity and resolution needs to be good enough for steering bullets.... not counting gnat nuthairs. I think VX2 level glass is a good comparison to the Classic Fixed SS scopes.... and that’s more than adequate for all my hunting needs. The HD series has excellent glass, and is noticeably better than the classics. I’ve been shooting 10x and 12x Super Snipers since LONG before they became popular here.... and long before the advent of the Mil-Quad reticle. I’ve used them all over the West, including a lot of time in PNW rainforests.... and I’ve never wanted/needed “better glass”. Exactly! You did not "seen" anything, you "saw" it. A "creek" has water in it, a "crick" is what you get in your neck. Liberals with guns are nothing but hypocrites.

Re: SWFA 10x Clarkm #14014855 07/31/19 Joined: Oct 2006 Posts: 24,275 Arkansas O ol_mike Campfire Ranger ol_mike Campfire Ranger O Joined: Oct 2006 Posts: 24,275 Arkansas Originally Posted by Clarkm I have terrible eyes, especially the right eye, and the 10X served me well at 629 yards with the 6.5-06. . I built another 6.5-06, lighter weight, I hope to hunt with in 2019, this one with a Rem700 action and Bartlein barrel. This one has a VX-6HS 2x12x42...... not that I need any more than 10X. Who makes this stock ? PRESIDENT TRUMP 2024/2028 !!!!!!!!!! Posted by Bristoe The people wringing their hands over Trump's rhetoric don't know what time it is in America.

Re: SWFA 10x ol_mike #14015310 07/31/19 Joined: Feb 2003 Posts: 10,361 WA rain forest Clarkm Campfire Outfitter Clarkm Campfire Outfitter Joined: Feb 2003 Posts: 10,361 WA rain forest Originally Posted by ol_mike Who makes this stock ? It seems I got two of them in June 2018 off Ebay, which keeps no records that long. But in my email they were called Kiwi Composite Carbon Fiber Stock With Recoil Pad Remington 700 LA JUN15... Total: $518.00 I can see I drilled out the G10 pillars and made my own Aluminum pillars and epoxyed them in. The other one, still in the wrapper with G10 like pillars, weighs 22 ounces. If I google the info I do have, and poke around, it looks like New Zealand https://www.hardyrifle.co.nz/stocks That $1199 NZ looks like $885 US There is nothing noble in being superior to your fellow man; true nobility is being superior to your former self. -Ernest Hemingway The man who makes no mistakes does not usually make anything.-- Edward John Phelps

Re: SWFA 10x Clarkm #14015991 07/31/19 Joined: Oct 2006 Posts: 24,275 Arkansas O ol_mike Campfire Ranger ol_mike Campfire Ranger O Joined: Oct 2006 Posts: 24,275 Arkansas Originally Posted by Clarkm Originally Posted by ol_mike Who makes this stock ? It seems I got two of them in June 2018 off Ebay, which keeps no records that long. But in my email they were called Kiwi Composite Carbon Fiber Stock With Recoil Pad Remington 700 LA JUN15... Total: $518.00 I can see I drilled out the G10 pillars and made my own Aluminum pillars and epoxyed them in. The other one, still in the wrapper with G10 like pillars, weighs 22 ounces. If I google the info I do have, and poke around, it looks like New Zealand https://www.hardyrifle.co.nz/stocks That $1199 NZ looks like $885 US ClarkM , Thanks ! That grip looks good I haven't seen any like it in mcmillan/manners/etc. ,, had a hand/arm injury couple of years ago and my right wrist isn't quite as flexible . That steeper grip would help me out . PRESIDENT TRUMP 2024/2028 !!!!!!!!!! Posted by Bristoe The people wringing their hands over Trump's rhetoric don't know what time it is in America.