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In Colorado they charge a 50.00 fee once a year per vehicle. Then you have to pay for the electricity to charge the batteries.
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By ROBERT CHANNICK | CHICAGO TRIBUNE | MAY 10, 2019 | 9:15 AM https://www.chicagotribune.com/business/ct-biz-electric-vehicle-fee-illinois-20190509-story.htmlA proposed hike in Illinois’ annual registration fee for electric vehicles, from $17.50 to $1,000, is being called unfair by current EV owners, and a sales disincentive by manufacturers — just as the new technology is beginning to gain broader traction. “It’s outrageous,” said Nicoletta Skarlatos, 56, of Chicago, who bought a Tesla Model S five years ago. “I thought Illinois was progressive and would want to encourage EV ownership.” Aimed at raising money to make overdue road improvements across Illinois, the proposed legislation would also more than double the state’s gas tax to 44 cents a gallon and raise the registration fee for standard vehicles to $148, from $98, among other elements. But the kicker is a nearly 60-fold increase in the electric vehicle registration fee — one that is sure to cause sticker shock across a nascent segment of the auto industry, which has depended on government incentives to entice early adopters. Hybrids and plug-in electric hybrids, which both use gas to supplement electric power, are not included in the $1,000 fee proposal. 😀
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Can you charge them at home? Yes.
Trump being classless,tasteless and clueless as usual. Sorry, trump is a no tax payin pile of shiit. My young wife decided to play the field and had moved several dudes into my house
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Harley Davidson is clutching at straws trying to stay relevant.
I've owned a couple of Harleys and I liked them just fine. But I think the big retro cruiser popularity has passed.
I don't think electric motorcycles are the path back for HD. I agree. They should be working on stuff like this IMO: https://www.indianmotorcycle.com/en-us/ftr1200-s/
Trump being classless,tasteless and clueless as usual. Sorry, trump is a no tax payin pile of shiit. My young wife decided to play the field and had moved several dudes into my house
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Electric Harley will never be a real Harley.
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Harley Davidson is clutching at straws trying to stay relevant.
I've owned a couple of Harleys and I liked them just fine. But I think the big retro cruiser popularity has passed.
I don't think electric motorcycles are the path back for HD. I agree. They should be working on stuff like this IMO: https://www.indianmotorcycle.com/en-us/ftr1200-s/HD is releasing an adventure type motorcycle and a "street fighter" type bike much like the Indian you linked for 2020. I think they're fighting an uphill battle with the adventure bike. It's got some very established competition and it's got to be at least as good as what's already available. People aren't going to buy an adventure type bike because it's a HD. HD has the resources to compete. But they're going to have to offer a comparable product at a competitive price. They can't just ride the HD name any longer. Here's the prototype. In my opinion, it's main competition is the Triumph Tiger. https://www.harley-davidson.com/us/en/motorcycles/future-vehicles/adventure-touring.html
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HD is releasing an adventure type motorcycle and a "street fighter" type bike much like the Indian you linked for 2020. I think they're fighting an uphill battle with the adventure bike. It's got some very established competition and it's got to be at least as good as what's already available. People aren't going to buy an adventure type bike because it's a HD. HD has the resources to compete. But they're going to have to offer a comparable product at a competitive price. They can't just ride the HD name any longer. Here's the prototype. In my opinion, it's main competition is the Triumph Tiger. https://www.harley-davidson.com/us/en/motorcycles/future-vehicles/adventure-touring.htmlYikes. That gonna be a tough row to hoe...
Trump being classless,tasteless and clueless as usual. Sorry, trump is a no tax payin pile of shiit. My young wife decided to play the field and had moved several dudes into my house
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Harley Davidson is clutching at straws trying to stay relevant.
I've owned a couple of Harleys and I liked them just fine. But I think the big retro cruiser popularity has passed.
I don't think electric motorcycles are the path back for HD. I agree. They should be working on stuff like this IMO: https://www.indianmotorcycle.com/en-us/ftr1200-s/Everybody is moving to electric. Cars, trucks, cycles and even planes. Problems are fast being solved.
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“In Trump We Trust.” Right????
SOMEBODY please tell TRH that Netanyahu NEVER said "Once we squeeze all we can out of the United States, it can dry up and blow away."
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Harley Davidson is clutching at straws trying to stay relevant.
I've owned a couple of Harleys and I liked them just fine. But I think the big retro cruiser popularity has passed.
I don't think electric motorcycles are the path back for HD. I agree. They should be working on stuff like this IMO: https://www.indianmotorcycle.com/en-us/ftr1200-s/Seems like everyone has to cater to the millennial if they want to stay in business. I'm just an old fart on a dirt bike for as long as I can ride it.
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Seems like everyone has to cater to the millennial if they want to stay in business. I'm just an old fart on a dirt bike for as long as I can ride it.
Millenial?
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Harley Davidson is clutching at straws trying to stay relevant.
I've owned a couple of Harleys and I liked them just fine. But I think the big retro cruiser popularity has passed.
I don't think electric motorcycles are the path back for HD. I agree. They should be working on stuff like this IMO: https://www.indianmotorcycle.com/en-us/ftr1200-s/Everybody is moving to electric. Cars, trucks, cycles and even planes. Problems are fast being solved. I guess I just fail to see the "problems" that are needing solved which you speak of....
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Everybody is moving to electric. Cars, trucks, cycles and even planes. Problems are fast being solved.
Yeah I'm aware. But Harley won't be at the forefront of any of them. Not even on their best day.
Trump being classless,tasteless and clueless as usual. Sorry, trump is a no tax payin pile of shiit. My young wife decided to play the field and had moved several dudes into my house
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I read where all the big thumpers are in the crosshairs.
They cant really update them and make emissions.
Honda recently came out with a bike that is 10 grand and needs an overhaul every weekend!
Apparently this new tech has rendered the xr650l and the dr650 obsolete!
Who told you these things?
Trump being classless,tasteless and clueless as usual. Sorry, trump is a no tax payin pile of shiit. My young wife decided to play the field and had moved several dudes into my house
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I read where all the big thumpers are in the crosshairs.
They cant really update them and make emissions.
Honda recently came out with a bike that is 10 grand and needs an overhaul every weekend!
Apparently this new tech has rendered the xr650l and the dr650 obsolete!
Who told you these things? I have own two Honda motorcycles and several cars. One thing in common...they almost never break down.
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“In Trump We Trust.” Right????
SOMEBODY please tell TRH that Netanyahu NEVER said "Once we squeeze all we can out of the United States, it can dry up and blow away."
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This from the same company who ditched Buell
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Buy the electric bike and a Honda generator to carry on the back.
One shot, one kill........ It saves a lot of ammo!
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The time to charge sort of kills the idea of extended trips, or at a minimum, some careful planning is required.
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If it don't sound like a Harley, Harley guys aren't gonna give two schits about it..
Owning a Harley is all about "look at me and hear me roar".
They are going to need to develop an entire new customer base, good luck with that. Well, the problem is their customer base is dying off and not buying new Harleys. They're just trying to embrace the future by making a commuter bike that might appeal to a whole new group of people. Some people here act like Harley is going to make them buy the thing and join GreenPeace. I'm hoping they have one for demo at Bikes, Blues, and BBQ this year. I usually burn several hours of their gas, and I'd love to see how much torque that thing has.
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Harley Davidson is clutching at straws trying to stay relevant.
I've owned a couple of Harleys and I liked them just fine. But I think the big retro cruiser popularity has passed.
I don't think electric motorcycles are the path back for HD. I agree. They should be working on stuff like this IMO: https://www.indianmotorcycle.com/en-us/ftr1200-s/Everybody is moving to electric. Cars, trucks, cycles and even planes. Problems are fast being solved. As pointed out on the electric truck thread, the really neat thing is the seamless pulling power and acceleration. They say you have to experience it for yourself to believe it. I want to try that.
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“In Trump We Trust.” Right????
SOMEBODY please tell TRH that Netanyahu NEVER said "Once we squeeze all we can out of the United States, it can dry up and blow away."
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