Interesting. We have a gent in the next town over who rents his goats out. Kind of a laugh around these parts, but with a thoughtful look in the distance as the laugh goes down. I'm thinking mebbe its worth it....
Carry what you’re willing to fight with - Mackay Sagebrush
I had 3 acres that was literally covered with the stuff along with thick briars.
A trip to the farmers auction and a truckload of goats and pigs in the back had me buying electric fence wire to enclose the whole thing. In a few weeks everything was down to the dirt.
That's the ticket. Glyphosate is mostly a grass killer. 2-4-d works better on broad-leafs. 2-4-d by itself will probably kill the ivy and won't kill any grass.
Sorry guys. This just is not true.
Glyphosate kills the broadleaf plants as effectively as it does the grasses. Adding 2-4D to the mix just allows you to see the broadleafs wilt sooner.
All it is, is a feel good thing.
When I want everything dead, I use Glyphosate. It leaves bare ground behind.
When I want to leave the grass alive, I use Brash, Weedmaster. or Range Star interchangeably to kill blackberry, willow, scotch thistle, canadian thistle, bull thistle, wild rose, sweet clover, or dandelions out of the lawn. I bought 2.5 gal of Range Star at the local Farm Supply for $69 last week. I mix three quarts into a 25 gal ATV sprayer for 3% and kill everything I need to.
It is much less expensive to use just the chemical you need to use, and it is more environmentally friendly.
I'm a dumbass, not a horticulturalist, or chemist. But the extension people, and ag folks recommend the mix to kill resistant weeds, And more mature weeds.
2,4D is for killing broadleaves, but leaving grass. Glypho, tries to kill everything. But, they each enhance the killing power of the other.
Again, if you disagree, Penn State Ag is who you are arguing with. Except, I will say, in my experience, it works.
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He pointed out a tree just off the trail that had it growing up and around that tree at least 40' high!!! I had no idea that it would grow that large, but if it is a true ivy, it can climb. I was amazed.
Poison Ivy will grow as a bush or a vine.
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That's the ticket. Glyphosate is mostly a grass killer. 2-4-d works better on broad-leafs. 2-4-d by itself will probably kill the ivy and won't kill any grass.
Sorry guys. This just is not true.
Glyphosate kills the broadleaf plants as effectively as it does the grasses. Adding 2-4D to the mix just allows you to see the broadleafs wilt sooner.
All it is, is a feel good thing.
When I want everything dead, I use Glyphosate. It leaves bare ground behind.
When I want to leave the grass alive, I use Brash, Weedmaster. or Range Star interchangeably to kill blackberry, willow, scotch thistle, canadian thistle, bull thistle, wild rose, sweet clover, or dandelions out of the lawn. I bought 2.5 gal of Range Star at the local Farm Supply for $69 last week. I mix three quarts into a 25 gal ATV sprayer for 3% and kill everything I need to.
It is much less expensive to use just the chemical you need to use, and it is more environmentally friendly.
I'm a dumbass, not a horticulturalist, or chemist. But the extension people, and ag folks recommend the mix to kill resistant weeds, And more mature weeds.
2,4D is for killing broadleaves, but leaving grass. Glypho, tries to kill everything. But, they each enhance the killing power of the other.
Again, if you disagree, Penn State Ag is who you are arguing with. Except, I will say, in my experience, it works.
Oh, it certainly works. But you will certainly never see a pro applying it that way as it would be wasted money out of his pocket. When spraying 500 or 1000 acres, that's a lot of cash.
When your dealing with a 1/4 acre lot, it is not such a big deal.
And by the way, I carried a commercial applicator's license in Oregon for 12 years, and controlled the weeds on a out 400 acres of commercial property during that time.
Previous applicators used the mix of Weedmaster and Roundup. When I took over the account I used Weedmaster for 98% of spray duties and made up a tank of Roundup when needed for grassy patches.
I reduced the cost of materials by over 50% for that account compared to the average of the previous five years.
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People who choose to brew up their own storms bitch loudest about the rain.
Idaho Shooter, Actually that's where I got the idea. That is what is recommended to farmers for some tough weeds, And those that have become glypho resistant.
No, they aren't pro applicators, but they are paying the bill, And consult the top ag people.
Not for every acre or field, but to address problem areas.
For my small areas, money doesn't matter, I go nuclear. Heck, I open the bark on junk trees and give them 42% glypho in the peeled back bark. They die.
Parents who say they have good kids..Usually don't!
2,4D is for killing broadleaves, but leaving grass. Glypho, tries to kill everything. But, they each enhance the killing power of the other. .
I've used them mixed like that before. It's good stuff for when you just want to nuke stuff deader than dead. Gly works better on grass, 2,4D on broadleaves, mixed kills everything.
When the temp is above 80 24D will drift and kill other things you aren't targeting. Sometimes it will move a long distance. Some states have date restrictions for when you can and can't spray 2,4D. I have used Glycophosphate to kill it in my yard. It will grow up through thick grass. One of my neighbors has it growing next to the street in their yard. They mow it and it pops back up.
I don't disagree with that guy. But good old rubbing alcohol is a cheap solvent that will take poison Ivy juice off your body.
When I'm out working around it I keep a bottle of rubbing alcohol and a wash cloth out on the bathroom counter. As soon as I come in I give my face, neck, and arms a good cleaning with it,...sometimes followed by a shower if I've been close to a lot of it.
But from what I've read, if you wait much longer than 30 minutes to clean it off, you're outta luck.