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I've owned a number of 6.5s over the years including the 260 Rem. Comparing the ballistics to the 6.5 C, I really don't see what the fuss is all about with the Creedmoor, on paper, they look about the same. Can someone educate me as to why the Creedmoor is all everyone talks about these days?

Honey, fire up the popcorn popper.

Short version: Creedmoor has a shorter case with almost the same capacity as the .260 so it can utilize longer, higher BC bullets in a short action.

Hornady did an awesome job of marketing, including offering load data that would shoot in most any decent barrel. Remington, on the other hand, did not.

In before FG

Stihl.

Creedmoors are like fishing lures. Some catch more fishermen than fish. Hasbeen

This piece by Zak Smith is a great read.

http://demigodllc.com/articles/6.5-shootout-260-6.5x47-6.5-creedmoor/

Finally someone comes up with an original topic on the Campfire.

Merits of the 260 vs 6.5CM? Hmmm..... Anybody think Romney has what it takes to beat Obama?

Just like all of the past "super" rounds (204 Ruger is an example), marketed by the magazine writers and the herd follows.

This going to be interesting due to the fact that there are many informed reloaders on this board.
I own two 6.5 firearms. One is a 260AI on a Remington 700 mountain rifle and a 260AI on an XP-100R platform. Now, this is approx. 5% larger than the standard 260 cartridge. But, accuracy is incredible.
Now, as for the 6.5 Creedmore, 260 and 260AI, there is relatively the same water volume for each with approx. 5% difference.
IMHO, I believe it all comes down to marketing. MTG

WTF: IF... YOU are inferring that the 204 Ruger is NOT an exceptional cartridge (and it appears that you are!) in virtually every respect, then you simply DO NOT know what you are blathering about!
The 204 Ruger is one of the finest cartridges EVER invented and I thank the "magazine writers" for alerting me to its merits and performance.
I currently own and shoot 7 (seven!) Varmint Rifles in caliber 204 Ruger and each and every one of them is VERY accurate and the cartridge never ceases to amaze me in the field with its superb performance there as well.
Your contentions regarding the 204 Ruger and "shooters" and gun writers" I consider to be blather and balderdash - nothing more nothing less.
Long live the 204 Ruger.
Hold into the wind
VarmintGuy

Many folks don't care for Glocks either. Too useful.



mike r

Sorry about that, I didnt realize that it made your coffee for you in the morning.

Unless one is trying to shoot long, VLD type bullets in a short action, there is no advantage of one or the other.

The 6.5 Creed is a slightly modified 260-- so-- an answer looking for a question--

3" magazine box go with a 260

2.8" magazine box go with the Creedmoor

With 130 gr or lighter bullets the 260 has a slight edge. Target shooters wanted to shoot LONG 140-150 gr bullets and found that they the long bullets took up too much powder space if seated deep enough to fit standard 260 magazines or chambers reducing usable powder space. Plus the barrels were not twisted right. The solution was custom built 260's with correctly twisted barrels, long throats, and modified magazines. Hand loaded ammo was loaded to much longer OAL than standard. Make those modifications to a 260 and it does everything a 6.5 CM does.

The 6.5 CM just does the same thing with off the shelf rifles and ammo.

I was an early user of the 260, my first, a Model 7 SS was booked into my FFL on 10/14/97. The perfect rifle for me, but nobody, retail or wholesale, had any ammo. Necessity being the mother of invention, I bought a set of dies, 100 Winchester/Olin 243 cases, some projectiles from Hornady and Nosler, and reread Ken Waters' article onf the 263 Express. I knew from experience loading for the 6.5x55 and 6.5-284 that the 129 grain Hornady SpirePoint was an accurate hunting bullet and so it was. In either late 1997 or early 1998 I was finally able to get a few boxes of Remington 140 grain factory ammo. Talk about disappointing performance! I was getting around 2,500 fps from a 20" barrel and while I didn't expect it to reach 3,000 fps with a 140 grain bullet, I did think that somewhere between 2,700 and 2,800 fps was doable. I bought the ammo off a dealer's shelf and got ammo from 3 different lots, all of which were slower than expected.

As noted previously, Hornady did a great job launching and supporting the 6.5 Creedmoor and Remington did a really poor job launching the 260. Remington's launch and support was so poor, I have to wonder if someone at Remington purposely made all the wrong choices whenever there was a choice to be made.

The other tangible advantage that the 6.5 Creedmoor has over the 260 is the wide variety of factory ammo from multiple manufacturers that is priced as low as $14 per box at Wal-Mart. I've never seen a box of 260 ammo at a Wal-Mart, never.

EDIT: As launched and for many years afterward, Remington made their 260s with a 1-9" ROT, marginal for many bullets weighing over 130 grains.

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I have 3 creedmoors none shoot MOA , 5 - 260's 2 lever action,, #1 ,, xp-100 , and a double barrel all shoot 1/4 moa in any conditions when i do my part .