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Originally Posted by Armednfree
Could it catapult, easily I'd say.
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I doubt if an airforce pilot could land on a carrier deck in broad daylight.


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We managed to get B-25's with bombs off of a WWII carrier (Dolittle raid on Tokyo). I'm thinking we could at least launch a partially armed A-10 off a carrier.

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Warthogs are the Chuck Norris of the skies.


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Originally Posted by DigitalDan
You don't tell a Warthog where to operate, you ask politely. They are kin to Chuck Norris.


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oldtrapper,

I was pleased that the A10 is being "updated" & will be around to help the next generation of GIs when they need them.


Yes. In spite of the Air Force brass.



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VERY TRUE. = The brass at HQ USAF never wanted the Warthog OR the CAS mission.
(CAS is VITAL for us ground-pounders but NOT "fancy" or glamorous enough for the Zoomies.)

Btw, when we Mike Papas talk about CAS & "Danger Close", we mean well-aimed fires within 10M of our fragile bodies.

Fyi, I've said for a long time that the A10 is PREFECTLY suited to the Army Aviation missions & that our LTs, Captains & Warrants would "have a ball" tearing up things IF they had the Warthog. = NO armored column, troop concentration, railway, bridge, tunnel, MSR, strong point and/or landing field would be safe from low speed/low level strafing/bombing by the Hog, when coordinated with fires from the other Army Aviation platforms.

Note to RVN vets: As I'm sure you remember, the Army HAD fixed-wing armed A/C in country & they were VERY effective at lots of tasks. - For example, what is now USASOCOM had OV-1 Mohawks that were "locally fitted with 7.62mm miniguns.

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CAS should be the job of the new Army Air Core.

Give them the Warthogs and get out of their way.


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Originally Posted by Szumi
We managed to get B-25's with bombs off of a WWII carrier (Dolittle raid on Tokyo). I'm thinking we could at least launch a partially armed A-10 off a carrier.

Props "bite" the air as soon as the plane starts to roll. Jets have to get a little speed up to force air into their intakes. That's why a jet doesn't slam the throttles all the way until it's rolling for a bit.

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Originally Posted by UPhiker
Originally Posted by Szumi
We managed to get B-25's with bombs off of a WWII carrier (Dolittle raid on Tokyo). I'm thinking we could at least launch a partially armed A-10 off a carrier.

Props "bite" the air as soon as the plane starts to roll. Jets have to get a little speed up to force air into their intakes. That's why a jet doesn't slam the throttles all the way until it's rolling for a bit.


Getting them back was a bit of a problem. They landed all over the coast of China.


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Getting them back was a bit of a problem. They landed all over the coast of China.


Crashed all over China. None were reusable. grin


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Originally Posted by UPhiker
Originally Posted by Szumi
We managed to get B-25's with bombs off of a WWII carrier (Dolittle raid on Tokyo). I'm thinking we could at least launch a partially armed A-10 off a carrier.

Props "bite" the air as soon as the plane starts to roll. Jets have to get a little speed up to force air into their intakes. That's why a jet doesn't slam the throttles all the way until it's rolling for a bit.


Bullshit. Fans put out maximum thrust standing still (fans are nothing more than a ducted prop). In all reality an A-10 already has landed and taken off from a carrier deck. They only had to modify the already in place tailhook and they didn't use a cat shot to get airborne. wink

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Originally Posted by DigitalDan
You don't tell a Warthog where to operate, you ask politely. They are kin to Chuck Norris.

+1.............. And don't call them ugly. I have spoken to vets who were in situations where the sight of a Warthog was the most beautiful thing they have ever seen.

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Originally Posted by AJ300MAG
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Originally Posted by Szumi
We managed to get B-25's with bombs off of a WWII carrier (Dolittle raid on Tokyo). I'm thinking we could at least launch a partially armed A-10 off a carrier.

Props "bite" the air as soon as the plane starts to roll. Jets have to get a little speed up to force air into their intakes. That's why a jet doesn't slam the throttles all the way until it's rolling for a bit.


Bullshit. Fans put out maximum thrust standing still (fans are nothing more than a ducted prop). In all reality an A-10 already has landed and taken off from a carrier deck. They only had to modify the already in place tailhook and they didn't use a cat shot to get airborne. wink

Have any proof of that?

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Originally Posted by UPhiker
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[quote=Szumi]We managed to get B-25's with bombs off of a WWII carrier (Dolittle raid on Tokyo). I'm thinking we could at least launch a partially armed A-10 off a carrier.

Props "bite" the air as soon as the plane starts to roll. Jets have to get a little speed up to force air into their intakes. That's why a jet doesn't slam the throttles all the way until it's rolling for a bit.


Bullshit. Fans put out maximum thrust standing still (fans are nothing more than a ducted prop). In all reality an A-10 already has landed and taken off from a carrier deck. They only had to modify the already in place tailhook and they didn't use a cat shot to get airborne. wink


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Originally Posted by BOWSINGER
CAS should be the job of the new Army Air Core.

Give them the Warthogs and get out of their way.


They sort of went out of business in 1947.

And it's corps by the way.








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Originally Posted by AJ300MAG
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Originally Posted by UPhiker
[quote=Szumi]We managed to get B-25's with bombs off of a WWII carrier (Dolittle raid on Tokyo). I'm thinking we could at least launch a partially armed A-10 off a carrier.

Props "bite" the air as soon as the plane starts to roll. Jets have to get a little speed up to force air into their intakes. That's why a jet doesn't slam the throttles all the way until it's rolling for a bit.


Bullshit. Fans put out maximum thrust standing still (fans are nothing more than a ducted prop). In all reality an A-10 already has landed and taken off from a carrier deck. They only had to modify the already in place tailhook and they didn't use a cat shot to get airborne. wink


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I'd say that's "proof" haha



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Originally Posted by UPhiker
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We managed to get B-25's with bombs off of a WWII carrier (Dolittle raid on Tokyo). I'm thinking we could at least launch a partially armed A-10 off a carrier.

Props "bite" the air as soon as the plane starts to roll. Jets have to get a little speed up to force air into their intakes. That's why a jet doesn't slam the throttles all the way until it's rolling for a bit.


Roger that!

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Originally Posted by Alaskajim
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Originally Posted by Szumi
We managed to get B-25's with bombs off of a WWII carrier (Dolittle raid on Tokyo). I'm thinking we could at least launch a partially armed A-10 off a carrier.

Props "bite" the air as soon as the plane starts to roll. Jets have to get a little speed up to force air into their intakes. That's why a jet doesn't slam the throttles all the way until it's rolling for a bit.


Roger that!


I've sat in the IP seat for a few takeoffs. My job was to monitor engine instruments. We normally did static takeoffs. Taxi into position, set the brakes. Run the engines up to takeoff EPR, release brakes. Even on a 13k foot runway. The only time we were restricted to rolling takeoffs is when Boeing saw some data that suggest static takeoffs induced excessive stress on the tail. The EPR once set never changed (indicate additional thrust) as the aircraft accelerated to liftoff speed

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