24hourcampfire.com
24hourcampfire.com
-->
Previous Thread
Next Thread
Print Thread
Hop To
Joined: Apr 2005
Posts: 3,032
C
Campfire Tracker
OP Offline
Campfire Tracker
C
Joined: Apr 2005
Posts: 3,032
I have a chance to pick up a very nice Ruger No 1, but it's a 22-250, and I have no use for that cartridge.

I hunt deer, antelope and elk, and even if the 22-250 is a viable deer and antelope rifle with the right bullets, the old, slow-twist barrel will not utilize the new, high-BC bullets to their maximum advantage. Besides, I have a nice .223, so the 22-250 is redundant.

Are there inexpensive take-off barrels available in mid-range calibers (.243, 250 Savage, 6.5x55, 7x57, 308, etc.) that I could simply spin on, headspace and go shooting?


All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing -- Edmund Burke
GB1

Joined: Nov 2005
Posts: 10,276
Campfire Outfitter
Offline
Campfire Outfitter
Joined: Nov 2005
Posts: 10,276
I don't know but it would seem you are risking getting a Pre 1990 barrel. Ruger outsourced barrels before then and lets just say accuracy could be problematic.


The older I become the more I am convinced that the voice of honor in a man's heart is the voice of GOD.
Joined: Apr 2012
Posts: 303
A
Campfire Member
Offline
Campfire Member
A
Joined: Apr 2012
Posts: 303
Whilst your intention is possible, it is unlikely to work like it does on a Remchester. Generally, No.1 rifles and take-off barrels don't work well.

As the extractor cutout in the breech is timed specifically to the action and headspace it is common that the take-off will either line up with the action or the headspace will be correct. Having both come in on specification is unusual in my experience.

Joined: Nov 2013
Posts: 28,743
Campfire Ranger
Online Content
Campfire Ranger
Joined: Nov 2013
Posts: 28,743
Rebore.

Might take a few months, but you'd get the cartridge and twist you want, not have to settle.

Last edited by Pappy348; 07/22/19.

What fresh Hell is this?
Joined: Nov 2008
Posts: 8,634
Campfire Outfitter
Offline
Campfire Outfitter
Joined: Nov 2008
Posts: 8,634
The problem I have found is finding a good reliable smith to work on a No.1. Most don’t even want to mess with em for various reasons. I have talked to these people a couple of times and would suggest you do the same.
http://www.bosesguns.com/
Notice the 60 buck up charge just to work on it.



Swifty
IC B2

Joined: Dec 2015
Posts: 8,276
P
Campfire Outfitter
Offline
Campfire Outfitter
P
Joined: Dec 2015
Posts: 8,276
that 22-250 is a great cartridge for deer and antelope ,before you spin the barrel off try it for a year,you will be surprise how well that cartridge/caliber will kill deer.


LIFE NRA , we vote Red up here, Norseman
Joined: Apr 2006
Posts: 3,323
P
Campfire Tracker
Online Content
Campfire Tracker
P
Joined: Apr 2006
Posts: 3,323
The problem for the OP will be a twist that won't shoot the bullets he likely wants to use. If it were me I'd go rebore by Dan Pederson in AZ.

Edit to add: I've never used Pederson's services before but based on good reports and my satisfaction with the concept of reboring based on JES's work I'd happily use him for any smaller caliber needs I come up with.

Last edited by pabucktail; 07/22/19.
Joined: Feb 2001
Posts: 7,957
K
Campfire Outfitter
Offline
Campfire Outfitter
K
Joined: Feb 2001
Posts: 7,957
I would just wait and buy one in the caliber you want may sell my Ruger #1 Red pad in 7 X 57 in the future nice wood and accurate.


kk alaska

Alaska 7 months of winter then 5 months of tourists
Joined: Nov 2018
Posts: 1,488
C
Campfire Regular
Offline
Campfire Regular
C
Joined: Nov 2018
Posts: 1,488
I seem to remember that Ruger will re-barrel a Number One fairly inexpensively, but only in the same cartridge... No cartridge swaps.

Anyone know for sure?

Guy

Joined: Jul 2001
Posts: 60,076
M
Campfire Kahuna
Offline
Campfire Kahuna
M
Joined: Jul 2001
Posts: 60,076
That's what I was told by Ruger maybe a decade ago when doing research for an article about rebarreling. In fact all of the manufacturers I contacted said they would rebarrel only to the original chambering, probably because otherwuse rifle loonies would be sending in their rifles every time they got a whim for a different rounds. Back then the price was $75, but have heard it's gone up considerably since, though nothing like having a gunsmith screw on an aftermarket barrel--especially on a No. 1.


“Montana seems to me to be what a small boy would think Texas is like from hearing Texans.”
John Steinbeck
IC B3

Joined: Apr 2005
Posts: 3,032
C
Campfire Tracker
OP Offline
Campfire Tracker
C
Joined: Apr 2005
Posts: 3,032
Just called Ruger. It's roughly $350 these days: $130 for a barrel in the white, $130 to put a finish on it, about $100 labor to fit it to your rifle and install.


All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing -- Edmund Burke
Joined: Mar 2005
Posts: 5,598
bcp Online Content
Campfire Tracker
Online Content
Campfire Tracker
Joined: Mar 2005
Posts: 5,598
I think I have a couple of #1 takeoffs in storage, #1B and #1V style, 6mm Remington.

If interested, I'll look for them. I know where they SHOULD be. smile

Bruce

Joined: Jan 2008
Posts: 685
M
Campfire Regular
Offline
Campfire Regular
M
Joined: Jan 2008
Posts: 685
My brother recently had Ruger re-barrel a 1V in .223. for $350. While it was the original chambering, the new twist rate was, IIRC, 1 in 8." Check with Ruger and see what twist they are using on the .22-250 nowadays. A faster twist in the 22-250 could make it a lot more useful.

I was told by my gunsmith that Douglas can produce barrels to the original contour specs as they were one of the original suppliers from whom Ruger sourced their barrels before they started making their own. Douglas can easily come up with a correctly dimensioned tube and it might save a bit of hassle and expense. It doesn't hurt that Douglas barrels are very good, especially their air-gauged offerings, but it will run you more than having Ruger do the work.

That said, it would be worth checking into a rebore.


You can fool all the people some of the time and some of the people all the time, but you cannot fool all the people all the time.
Joined: Jun 2004
Posts: 7,170
G
Campfire Tracker
Offline
Campfire Tracker
G
Joined: Jun 2004
Posts: 7,170
I generally charged an extra 40% labor to barrel a No. 1. The extractor cut and the drilling and tapping for the quarter-rib was enough to add forty bucks, in my view. Because I was always a poor businessman, the 40% dwindled to 25 as time went by and I started charging more labor for general re-barreling. It isn't necessary to match the original contour entirely; only at the contact points for the rib. You can vary the rest of the barrel as you wish. Of course, if you choose to go to a different scope mounting system, you may make any contour you want, as long as it is compatible with the fore arm hanger. GD

Joined: Jun 2002
Posts: 11,951
Campfire Outfitter
Offline
Campfire Outfitter
Joined: Jun 2002
Posts: 11,951
Originally Posted by kk alaska
I would just wait and buy one in the caliber you want may sell my Ruger #1 Red pad in 7 X 57 in the future nice wood and accurate.


^^ This on both counts. Cheaper, easier and your factory gun will be worth more than one that has been rebarreled.

Joined: Nov 2013
Posts: 28,743
Campfire Ranger
Online Content
Campfire Ranger
Joined: Nov 2013
Posts: 28,743
If it were me it'd come down to the deal I was getting on the used one, including the wood it wore and the model, combined with what I could have with a new or re-bored barrel. No sense spending a bunch and wasting time on something that can be had off the shelf in short order.

If, as it appears, the OP doesn't have any particular cartridge in mind, it might be worthwhile to just shoot it as is a bit before spending any more on it. Even standard twist barrels will stabilize good deer bullets like the NP, 63gr Sierra, 64gr PP, and even the CE Raptor I believe. He might discover he really does have a use for a good-shooting Varminter.


What fresh Hell is this?

Moderated by  RickBin 

Link Copied to Clipboard
AX24

197 members (30Gibbs, 35sambar, 10gaugemag, 345dl, 1_deuce, 264mag, 29 invisible), 2,687 guests, and 1,021 robots.
Key: Admin, Global Mod, Mod
Forum Statistics
Forums81
Topics1,191,278
Posts18,467,637
Members73,928
Most Online11,491
Jul 7th, 2023


 


Fish & Game Departments | Solunar Tables | Mission Statement | Privacy Policy | Contact Us | DMCA
Hunting | Fishing | Camping | Backpacking | Reloading | Campfire Forums | Gear Shop
Copyright © 2000-2024 24hourcampfire.com, Inc. All Rights Reserved.



Powered by UBB.threads™ PHP Forum Software 7.7.5
(Release build 20201027)
Responsive Width:

PHP: 7.3.33 Page Time: 0.105s Queries: 14 (0.004s) Memory: 0.8642 MB (Peak: 0.9762 MB) Data Comp: Zlib Server Time: 2024-04-25 05:37:57 UTC
Valid HTML 5 and Valid CSS