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does an amoeba have a concept of quantum physics?


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Did the amoeba have a mom?


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Then what IS in evidence? It had to start with something. Even the something started somewhere by someone.

A bunch of atoms and cells didn't just make up themselves. If you can't believe God started this universe then you got a rough row to hoe.


It started with a universe that is composed matter/energy and a world with the conditions that allows complex chemistry to emerge and evolve.



All these things are so far beyond our physical reach that mankind as we know it will never grasp what happened in a vastness that's unimaginable. Our universe could be a particle in a Jr High science experiment in an alternative universe. The possibilities are endless.

Give an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of typewriters, and one will end up writing King Leer.


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If every living organism comes from a single cell that decided to split and become more complex over the millennia and the diversity that we all share on earth is a result of that evolution, show me the DNA that links humans to a weed, spider or any other organism...


Here's a phylogenetic tree, all the way from bacteria to humans:

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Wow, that surely is convincing...


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Originally Posted by luv2safari
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Then what IS in evidence? It had to start with something. Even the something started somewhere by someone.

A bunch of atoms and cells didn't just make up themselves. If you can't believe God started this universe then you got a rough row to hoe.


It started with a universe that is composed matter/energy and a world with the conditions that allows complex chemistry to emerge and evolve.



Give an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of typewriters, and one will end up writing King Leer.


No, that’s the point of the math involved.

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Give an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of typewriters, and one will end up writing King Leer.

And an infinite pile of monkey crap. wink


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[quote=DBT][quote=RickyD][quote=DBT]Evolution is a fact. Theory relates to the means and mechanisms by which it happens.

A "fact" like any other lying lieberal "fact". A fact that is a lie.


It's the quality and abundance of evidence, information that anyone can examine, that makes something a fact.

The problem is not that there is insufficient evidence/information to establish evolution as being a fact, there is.....but that there are folks who are unwilling to consider the evidence because they, themselves prefer magical answers, special creation through an act of magic over research and careful examination of the evidence.....in other words, a bias in favour of their preferred religion.




Tell me the mechanism by which all explanations other than Darwinian Evolution are precluded by the evidence. Until you can do that, you’re JMSU. If you can’t explain the process in detail, then you can’t preclude other explanations.




Show me the mechanism and the means that proves that it is Darwinian Evolution as opposed to any other number of speculations.



It is not about "Darwinian Evolution." It is evolution. Organisms adapting and evolving over time in response to changes in their environment. It is genetic diversity, over three billion years of practice and several major extinction events.

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Originally Posted by shrapnel

Wow, that surely is convincing...

Genetics, just like the other sciences, even when simplified, is a broad and specialized topic that most have had near zero formal education in; very basic if any. Book smarts ain't always dumb... The basis for the phylogenetic tree depicted is exactly the connection you sought. I personally think life came to Earth from elsewhere, possibly more than one type and one time, and by an unknown mechanism. So- there's lot's of unknowns, but there's for certain shared genetics among the lifeforms on this planet.


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Originally Posted by shrapnel

Wow, that surely is convincing...

Watch this guy's entire series if you want to understand that chart.


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Originally Posted by JoeBob
Show me the mechanism and the means that proves that it is Darwinian Evolution as opposed to any other number of speculations.


Here's some light reading for you that will explain it in detail.

The arthor Ken Miller's a Christian, Catholic I believe:

https://www.amazon.com/Miller-Levin...;qid=1564019683&s=gateway&sr=8-4

Here's a short video of him explaining how it was proven in a court of law:



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Originally Posted by The_Real_Hawkeye
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Wow, that surely is convincing...

Watch this guy's entire series if you want to understand that chart.



I’d rather watch Elmer cut his toenails, although there is some evidence of evolution looking at that goon, he can’t be too far from an amoeba...


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Originally Posted by shrapnel
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Wow, that surely is convincing...

Watch this guy's entire series if you want to understand that chart.



I’d rather watch Elmer cut his toenails, although there is some evidence of evolution looking at that goon, he can’t be too far from an amoeba...


So you don't want to understand it. No surprise there.


You didn't use logic or reason to get into this opinion, I cannot use logic or reason to get you out of it.

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Originally Posted by antelope_sniper
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Wow, that surely is convincing...

Watch this guy's entire series if you want to understand that chart.



I’d rather watch Elmer cut his toenails, although there is some evidence of evolution looking at that goon, he can’t be too far from an amoeba...


So you don't want to understand it. No surprise there.


Not measuring up to an intellect like you bothers me a lot...


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Originally Posted by antelope_sniper
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Show me the mechanism and the means that proves that it is Darwinian Evolution as opposed to any other number of speculations.


Here's some light reading for you that will explain it in detail.

The arthor Ken Miller's a Christian, Catholic I believe:

https://www.amazon.com/Miller-Levin...;qid=1564019683&s=gateway&sr=8-4

Here's a short video of him explaining how it was proven in a court of law:





I’m familiar with Miller. This link refutes him pretty well.

http://detectingdesign.com/kennethmiller.html

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Originally Posted by JoeBob
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Show me the mechanism and the means that proves that it is Darwinian Evolution as opposed to any other number of speculations.


Here's some light reading for you that will explain it in detail.

The arthor Ken Miller's a Christian, Catholic I believe:

https://www.amazon.com/Miller-Levin...;qid=1564019683&s=gateway&sr=8-4

Here's a short video of him explaining how it was proven in a court of law:





I’m familiar with Miller. This link refutes him pretty well.

http://detectingdesign.com/kennethmiller.html


That's not what the judge said.

Nor how the voters in Dover voted.

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Originally Posted by JoeBob
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Show me the mechanism and the means that proves that it is Darwinian Evolution as opposed to any other number of speculations.


Here's some light reading for you that will explain it in detail.

The arthor Ken Miller's a Christian, Catholic I believe:

https://www.amazon.com/Miller-Levin...;qid=1564019683&s=gateway&sr=8-4

Here's a short video of him explaining how it was proven in a court of law:





I’m familiar with Miller. This link refutes him pretty well.

http://detectingdesign.com/kennethmiller.html


Far from it. The so called refutation of evolution is designed to comfort believers. It does not actually refute evolution.

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So I haven't read any responses on this ridiculously long thread, but I'll just say this, the grass withers, the flower fades, but the word or our God stands forever.

Now whatever anyone has to say about all this can be filtered based on this amazing, astonishing, awesome and incredible truth!

And there are so many more if any wish to hear them. I'll just say wow, He is an awesome God!


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Amen good brother, thank you.


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So I haven't read any responses on this ridiculously long thread, but I'll just say this, the grass withers, the flower fades, but the word or our God stands forever.

Now whatever anyone has to say about all this can be filtered based on this amazing, astonishing, awesome and incredible truth!

And there are so many more if any wish to hear them. I'll just say wow, He is an awesome God!


Nice bald assertion, but that's that it is.


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Originally Posted by antelope_sniper
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Originally Posted by antelope_sniper
Originally Posted by JoeBob
Show me the mechanism and the means that proves that it is Darwinian Evolution as opposed to any other number of speculations.


Here's some light reading for you that will explain it in detail.

The arthor Ken Miller's a Christian, Catholic I believe:

https://www.amazon.com/Miller-Levin...;qid=1564019683&s=gateway&sr=8-4

Here's a short video of him explaining how it was proven in a court of law:





I’m familiar with Miller. This link refutes him pretty well.

http://detectingdesign.com/kennethmiller.html


That's not what the judge said.

Nor how the voters in Dover voted.

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I’ve hired many a whore...er ... expert to fool...I mean convince a judge with bullschit.

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