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Been doing that for many years, but thanks for posting the video.

It reminded me to go out and clean /reorganize my range ammo box..;)

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Wow, that was a cool idea and great right-to-the-point video.

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I had not thought of doing entire box transfers like that. A very good idea.


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I wish I would have saved all those plastic boxes.

Anybody who has any ain't letting any go either.


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I pour the whole box into a plastic wide mouthed plastic jar.

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Guess all my CCI stuff was purchased during the Jurassic Era. Don't have any 50 rd boxes.

Do have some 50 rd boxes of other stuff but I don't juggle them..


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Originally Posted by DigitalDan
Do have some 50 rd boxes of other stuff but I don't juggle them..


The modern paper boxed CCI rimfires are the only employers of this structurally impaired packaging technique. Aguila's paper boxed rimfire design employs the four corner rounds to keep it all together. Not perfect, but it works well if the shooter leaves the corner rounds to last.

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The way he does this is a lot of extra work...

Use a small punch (I use my Glock tool), pull the empty plastic cartridge holder/tray from the empty 100 round plastic box and then put in two of the full 50 cartridge trays===> 10 times as fast and no spills to boot.

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Originally Posted by jerrywoodswalker
The way he does this is a lot of extra work...


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Really it’s not, and you should have read my YouTube video’s caption; I address the problem of using two “50s”:

“CCI Standard Velocity is the workhorse loading for casual rimfire target shooting. Unfortunately, the 50 round paper boxes are poorly designed and lack structural integrity. Danny Creasy - dannycreasy.net - suggests you put those old, empty 100 round plastic #22longrifle boxes to use. Note, any manufacturer's 100 round plastic boxes (5 X 20 count) will do.

Some might think it easier to pull two of the 50 round trays from their paper box and simply place them side by side in one of the empty 100 round plastic boxes. This sounds good, but in my experience, the two trays slump down at the center of the 100 round plastic box and cause the sliding lid to bind when opening.”

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I have several of the 100 round Mini Mag containers and maybe a couple 50 round Velocitor boxes I use.

Even have an old 100 round slip top Coast to Coast box I keep restocking.


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CCI mini mags are still in 100 round plastic boxes?
I just bought some of of the CCI 40 grain Segmented 22LR and they are in plastic 100 round like CCI has been for decades.

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Boy some of y'all must have a lot of extra time on your hands. Other than sheer boredom, I don't a point for this personally. I've got way too many cases of CCI SV to try to find the old boxes for. They're not that much easier to get them outta those trays anyway. I just dump them out of the box into a wide mouth plastic container that I can easily grab a handful (or few) from to load with. Just mark the container as to what they are.


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Originally Posted by RyanTX
Boy some of y'all must have a lot of extra time on your hands. Other than sheer boredom, I don't a point for this personally. I've got way too many cases of CCI SV to try to find the old boxes for. They're not that much easier to get them outta those trays anyway. I just dump them out of the box into a wide mouth plastic container that I can easily grab a handful (or few) from to load with. Just mark the container as to what they are.

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End flap off the empty box inside


That works too. I've taped it to the outside of the plastic container too when I've had several (with different ammo inside) and they're sitting on the shelf.


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Originally Posted by RyanTX
I just dump them out of the box into a wide mouth plastic container that I can easily grab a handful (or few) from to load with. Just mark the container as to what they are.


If this works for you, loose .22 LR ammo is fine. It's not for me; the crimped .22 LR bullets can get knocked around and made loose in their cases, actually spinning or getting knocked cattywampus. Accuracy suffers.

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I am with the dump into a large container guys... I usually use 1 # plastic coffee cans and mark the lids as to the ammo and the rifle I plan to use them in... As far as the bullets getting loose in their cases, I have never noticed this in 20 years of using coffee cans.. When the gopher shooting is hot and heavy, I want to get to lots of ammo fast.. Works like a charm,,


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Originally Posted by dannycreasy
Originally Posted by RyanTX
I just dump them out of the box into a wide mouth plastic container that I can easily grab a handful (or few) from to load with. Just mark the container as to what they are.


If this works for you, loose .22 LR ammo is fine. It's not for me; the crimped .22 LR bullets can get knocked around and made loose in their cases, actually spinning or getting knocked cattywampus. Accuracy suffers.


Danny,

You might closely watch this video of 22Plinkster's recent tour of the CCI facility in Idaho-





The bullet loading process starts at about the 5:20 mark . Watch closely for a few minutes, especially right after those slugs are seated in the cases.

NOTE how those rounds are fed at high speeds in
bulk through chutes during the knurling, waxing and packaging steps right after those precious bullets seated .

Short of driving a vehicle over your ammo box ,I doubt there is ANYTHING any reasonable shooter could do to those rounds (loose in a jar or coffee can ,etc) that has NOT already been done to them at the factory.

Being neat , orderly and knowing exactly how much ammo you have on hand as well as precisely dispensing it, is a perfectly good reason for having ammo in those plastic packs..:)

But thinking you are increasing accuracy by protecting the rounds from each other does not make much sense when you see how those rounds are handled at the factory after bullet seating.

Just my take.


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After 30 years of shooting rimfire competitions, I respectfully disagree. I simply posted a method for efficiently transferring cheaply packed paper box CCI Standard Velocity ammo (a very good practice ammo in my rimfires) to much stronger and more manageable plastic boxes. Y’all continue to enjoy your big jars and cans of twenty-twos. As far as time, it takes me about twenty minutes to re-box a thousand rounds and that usually feeds my rimfire addictions (local silhouette and bullseye matches) for a month to six weeks.

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Originally Posted by dannycreasy
After 30 years of shooting rimfire competitions, I respectfully disagree. I simply posted a method for efficiently transferring cheaply packed paper box CCI Standard Velocity ammo (a very good practice ammo in my rimfires) to much stronger and more manageable plastic boxes. Y’all continue to enjoy your big jars and cans of twenty-twos. As far as time, it takes me about twenty minutes to re-box a thousand rounds and that usually feeds my rimfire addictions (local silhouette and bullseye matches) for a month to six weeks.


Danny,

You were shown the evidence in the video.

You either refused to watch it or are too stubborn to admit the facts (at least in the case of CCI ammo )

BTW I have shot competitively longer than you have,. and not all rimfire ammo is loaded with the same machinery or processes.

For example, high grade Eley, RWS etc that may be handled with much more care in their conveyor systems might show an accuracy degradation if thrown together in a container.

I think in terms of the CCI -as the video shows- that would be pretty darned unlikely.

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