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I need to watch that movie again.


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Of my least favorite Wayne movies.


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I thought it was a great movie. It was one of John Wayne's classics and I liked Robert Duvall as well.

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I like it.


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It was much better than the remake, but it doesn't crack my top 10 list of the Duke's best movies.

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Originally Posted by JamesJr
It was much better than the remake, but it doesn't crack my top 10 list of the Duke's best movies.
Ditto..


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JW movies I can do without:
True Grit
The Shootist
The Cowboys
Sons Of Katie Elder
McQ
Brannigan
Rooster Cogburn
Train Roberts (Never mind it has Ann Margret so its automatically a favorite)
War Wagon
The Undefeated


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The new version is many times better. Just watched it again recently.


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Originally Posted by jorgeI
JW movies I can do without:
True Grit
The Shootist
The Cowboys
Sons Of Katie Elder
McQ
Brannigan
Rooster Cogburn
Train Roberts (Never mind it has Ann Margret so its automatically a favorite)
War Wagon
The Undefeated


As JW aged, and the popularity of Westerns began to fade, there just wasn't as good a material there to make good movies anymore.

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JB doesn’t match up to JW at all.


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Originally Posted by jorgeI
JW movies I can do without:
True Grit
The Shootist
The Cowboys
Sons Of Katie Elder
McQ
Brannigan
Rooster Cogburn
Train Roberts (Never mind it has Ann Margret so its automatically a favorite)
War Wagon
The Undefeated


I pretty much am on board with that list except I do like Son of Katie Elder. I think they could have done so much more with McQ and Brannigan. I mean, how can you have John Wayne and Richard Attenboro and make a dude?


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Originally Posted by hatari
Originally Posted by jorgeI
JW movies I can do without:
True Grit
The Shootist
The Cowboys
Sons Of Katie Elder
McQ
Brannigan
Rooster Cogburn
Train Roberts (Never mind it has Ann Margret so its automatically a favorite)
War Wagon
The Undefeated


I pretty much am on board with that list except I do like Son of Katie Elder. I think they could have done so much more with McQ and Brannigan. I mean, how can you have John Wayne and Richard Attenboro and make a dude?


Whatever became of the horses, and how was Tom's "Wanted" status ever resolved?


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Originally Posted by JamesJr
Originally Posted by jorgeI
JW movies I can do without:
True Grit
The Shootist
The Cowboys
Sons Of Katie Elder
McQ
Brannigan
Rooster Cogburn
Train Roberts (Never mind it has Ann Margret so its automatically a favorite)
War Wagon
The Undefeated


As JW aged, and the popularity of Westerns began to fade, there just wasn't as good a material there to make good movies anymore.

Maybe so, but Chisum and Big Jake are pretty good and they came around the same time as a few of these..same for the Green Berets


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"The Comancheros" was actually the first in the "Back to the Future" series. Considerations for running time caused the part where they took the DeLorean into the future and brought back the firearms to be cut. There is also speculation that Merlin the Magician from "The Once and Future King" was somehow involved in that lives appear to be lived backwards as the Civil War figures into the story as well.


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Originally Posted by jorgeI
JW movies I can do without:
True Grit
The Shootist
The Cowboys
Sons Of Katie Elder
McQ
Brannigan
Rooster Cogburn
Train Roberts (Never mind it has Ann Margret so its automatically a favorite)
War Wagon
The Undefeated



A lot of what we don’t like about those films wasn’t the movie itself as much as how our taste for acting and writing changed. Don’t forget that John Wayne movies were about being entertained in a theater, where “Star Wars” changed the whole dynamic in the industry to special effects and John Wayne movies weren’t about special effects...


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Like or dislike his acting, same for some or all of his movies, I can't think of another actor that has had near the long term popularity and die-hard fans, their movies replayed on TV, collected and watched over and over again, more than John Wayne. has.




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100 times better than the new version.

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I always liked True Grit.

Yes, 100 times better than the new version.

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I pretty much am on board with that list except I do like Son of Katie Elder. I think they could have done so much more with McQ and Brannigan. I mean, how can you have John Wayne and Richard Attenboro and make a dude?


Whatever became of the horses, and how was Tom's "Wanted" status ever resolved?


They didn't do a good job of of either developing the character of Katie, explaining the prodigal nature of John Wayne and Dean Martin's characters, or timing up the loose ends. I still watch it when it's on.


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I always liked True Grit.

Yes, 100 times better than the new version.


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