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Here's my Ruger Vaquero (older type) in .44 Magnum (shown with 44 Special rounds). Those pills are plenty big. ![[Linked Image]](https://www.24hourcampfire.com/ubbthreads/gallery/80/full/104969.jpeg)
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The biggest reason to buy one is you already have the other.
Forgive me my nonsense, as I also forgive the nonsense of those that think they talk sense.
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What model fits you the best? Don't worry about ammo, I've never seen anyone run out of ammo & have to run to the store to find more. You're a handloader so you'll have enough ammo with you. In spite of what some will say the 45 will out perform the 44 if you want to go there with heavy bullets....yes it will. That bigger, heavier, wider 45 slug is extra horsepower, take advantage of it if you choose. I personally like the 44 better but not by much. The 45 Colt case has a lot of capacity, volume has to mean something, again some will disagree. Buy what you want & I'm sure you will be happy with it, both are great..
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What model fits you the best? Don't worry about ammo, I've never seen anyone run out of ammo & have to run to the store to find more. You're a handloader so you'll have enough ammo with you. In spite of what some will say the 45 will out perform the 44 if you want to go there with heavy bullets....yes it will. That bigger, heavier, wider 45 slug is extra horsepower, take advantage of it if you choose. I personally like the 44 better but not by much. The 45 Colt case has a lot of capacity, volume has to mean something, again some will disagree. Buy what you want & I'm sure you will be happy with it, both are great..
Dick Can't disagree.
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Do you have anything to offer as to why? There isn’t a deer in North America that will stop a 250 grain bullet from a 45 Colt at a realistic range. You don’t need jacketed bullets to get the terminal ballistics that will make the Colt a serious killer. Few people that shoot a 44 magnum can handle the recoil of the 44 mag, then they will shoot a 44 special and defeat the purpose of a magnum. The 45 just seems to be more manageable than the magnum and more versatile than the special...
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20 years ago, heck even 10 years ago I would of said 44 mag. Now, why not the 45.
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I have a .45 in a nice ruger... But half a dozen .44's.. My choice every time.. 44..
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A 45 Colt with a wide meplat, 300 cast bullet of moderate hardness, trundling along at 1000-1100 fps, will do a lot of heavy lifting. Recoil will be very manageable and if you elect to go with a Redhawk, you can turn up the volume considerably should you desire more thump. The 45 Colt loads down as easily as it loads up. If you go with a Ruger, expect the throats to need to be opened if you're going to use cast bullets. Many, heck, most Rugers in 45 Colt need the throats opened. The three I've had, two Bisleys and Redhawk, all were opened up to .4525 and shoot cast bullets beautifully.
It's an easy and quick job and there are several good guys who do the work. Fermin Garza and Doug Phillips both do the cylinder throat work and both are very reasonable and fast. Doug and Fermin have both done cylinders for me. Doug did my most recent 45 Colt, A Lipsey's color case hardened Bisley 5.5 inch. It was $60 with return shipping and I had it back in two weeks. My Redhawk was done by a guy known as the Cylinder Smith and was the first 45 I had opened but he has since retired. Doug and Fermin both are masters at their craft.
Chronographs, bore scopes and pattern boards have broke a lot of hearts.
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A 45 Colt with a wide meplat, 300 cast bullet of moderate hardness, trundling along at 1000-1100 fps, will do a lot of heavy lifting. Recoil will be very manageable and if you elect to go with a Redhawk, you can turn up the volume considerably should you desire more thump. The 45 Colt loads down as easily as it loads up. If you go with a Ruger, expect the throats to need to be opened if you're going to use cast bullets. Many, heck, most Rugers in 45 Colt need the throats opened. The three I've had, two Bisleys and Redhawk, all were opened up to .4525 and shoot cast bullets beautifully.
It's an easy and quick job and there are several good guys who do the work. Fermin Garza and Doug Phillips both do the cylinder throat work and both are very reasonable and fast. Doug and Fermin have both done cylinders for me. Doug did my most recent 45 Colt, A Lipsey's color case hardened Bisley 5.5 inch. It was $60 with return shipping and I had it back in two weeks. My Redhawk was done by a guy known as the Cylinder Smith and was the first 45 I had opened but he has since retired. Doug and Fermin both are masters at their craft. Doug lives about 20 minutes from where I work and I drove to his house and had him do the throats on my .32 H&R Single Six.
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Is this Doug you speak of the guy who runs CylinderHone?
If so, I'll throw a word in for him, he extended the leade in a barrel I use in a .45 Super, allowed a little bit more speed and helped a lot with the accuracy.
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Is this Doug you speak of the guy who runs CylinderHone?
If so, I'll throw a word in for him, he extended the leade in a barrel I use in a .45 Super, allowed a little bit more speed and helped a lot with the accuracy. Same guy.
Chronographs, bore scopes and pattern boards have broke a lot of hearts.
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Is this Doug you speak of the guy who runs CylinderHone?
If so, I'll throw a word in for him, he extended the leade in a barrel I use in a .45 Super, allowed a little bit more speed and helped a lot with the accuracy. Same guy. Yep. He drinks coffee by the gallon and I don't see how he sits still long enough to do such good work. He also did me a trigger job while I was there and didn't ask for any extra payment, but I slipped in a little "extry" when I handed him the cash.
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There are a lot of good points in this thread in my view. I like both but the 44 is less pleasant to shoot. At least for me.
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Four decades ago I asked myself the same question and chose .44 even though I knew I'd be reloading. I've never regretted that decision and would make the same one today.
But a .45 would be fine too.
'Four legs good, two legs baaaad."
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Get a .41 too. My personal favorite.
God Bless, Louis
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There are a lot of good points in this thread in my view. I like both but the 44 is less pleasant to shoot. At least for me. In Magnum, I agree. I sure don't enjoy shooting full power .44 Magnum. Love shooting .44 Special, though, from something like a Model 29 or a Ruger Vaquero. A real pleasure, and has terminal performance about like a .45 Colt at typical pressure levels.
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Slaves get what they need. Free men get what they want. Rehabilitation is way overrated. Orwell wasn't wrong. GOA member disappointed NRA member 24HCF SEARCH
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Call me nostalgic, but the truth of the matter is that a .45 caliber slug at medium velocities still packs a thump! Fortunately I have been able to acquire a S&W 25 in .45 Colt with a 5" tube and unfluted cylinder. Great pistol. I have also been blessed to find, and keep a pair of S&W Mountain Guns. One in .44 Mag, and the other ….45 Colt! 
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