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I'm considering adding a big bore handgun to my collection. Nit even sure what I want to do with it - just want to feel the power and thump, I guess. Strongly considering a Ruger Redhawk, which can be had in either .45 Colt or .44 Magnum. What are some reasons to consider one over the other? And yes, I do handload, so ammo availability is not a concern.
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You will have a much easier time finding loaded ammo for .44 Magnum (I know you reload, but you can find yourself without your supply somewhere, when you need to pick up ammo locally). Also permits the use of .44 Special loads (which, if you handload, can be loaded in .44 Mag cases), of which there are many power levels from very mild to stepping on the heels of Magnum, if you get tired of the hand pounding you get from the full Magnums. Special is pleasant to shoot, and about equals .45 Colt performance.
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Do you handload? if so six of one & a half dozen of the other.... if you don't... follow TRH's advice
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I would get the 45 Colt in a ruger if I could be satisfied that the chamber size was not smaller than the barrel dimension
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I prefer 45 Colt. Especially if you hand load.
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Do you have anything to offer as to why?
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You will have a much easier time finding loaded ammo for .44 Magnum (I know you reload, but you can find yourself without your supply somewhere, when you need to pick up ammo locally). Also permits the use of .44 Special loads (which, if you handload, can be loaded in .44 Mag cases), of which there are many power levels from very mild to stepping on the heels of Magnum, if you get tired of the hand pounding you get from the full Magnums. Special is pleasant to shoot, and about equals .45 Colt performance. Can the 45 Colt not be loaded down to 44 special levels?
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Do you have anything to offer as to why? Nostalgia.
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You will have a much easier time finding loaded ammo for .44 Magnum (I know you reload, but you can find yourself without your supply somewhere, when you need to pick up ammo locally). Also permits the use of .44 Special loads (which, if you handload, can be loaded in .44 Mag cases), of which there are many power levels from very mild to stepping on the heels of Magnum, if you get tired of the hand pounding you get from the full Magnums. Special is pleasant to shoot, and about equals .45 Colt performance. Can the 45 Colt not be loaded down to 44 special levels? It's already there at standard pressures. No down loading needed to pretty much duplicate .44 Special. You can also Magnumize .45 Colt. But you will have a hard time finding .45 Colt in local gun stores, but never have any trouble finding .44 Magnum. That's about the only difference. If that's meaningless to you, then flip a coin.
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I'd go with 44mag for the same reasons as listed above... esp the versatility aspect. Ammo availbility 44 Special for lit loads 44 Mag for heavy loads
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Do you have anything to offer as to why? Nostalgia. You know me better than that. I lived with the 44 Magnum for 30 years- carried it daily, handloaded for it and hunted with it. Fooled with the 44 Special some too. I kept the 45 Colt for its mild manners and ability to handle anything, loaded properly and from the right gun. Even the basic 1870's load, or an equivalent reload, kills all out of proportion to its 'paper ballistics' so long as you use a bullet with a healthy meplat. Works for me. Might not work for everybody. http://www.thesixgunjournal.net/the-45-colt-140-years-of-success/
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Double action I'd go 44, single action 45, but I'm weird that way
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I want a Smith Mountain Gun in 45. I have a 44, and two 45 SA's already, lots of components, and load for them.
The way I see it, if your going to load 1000fps or slower, With a cast bullet, bigger is better.
How much better? Who knows? It depends.
Mountain guns seem to be for sale less often. If I see a deal on a 44, I might jump. It's a good cartridge.
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Had a S&W Mtn gun in 45 Colt and let it get away - wish I had it back...
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S&W Mountain Guns are ridiculous in price nowadays.
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Do you have anything to offer as to why? Nostalgia. You know me better than that. I lived with the 44 Magnum for 30 years- carried it daily, handloaded for it and hunted with it. Fooled with the 44 Special some too. I kept the 45 Colt for its mild manners and ability to handle anything, loaded properly and from the right gun. Even the basic 1870's load, or an equivalent reload, kills all out of proportion to its 'paper ballistics' so long as you use a bullet with a healthy meplat. Works for me. Might not work for everybody. http://www.thesixgunjournal.net/the-45-colt-140-years-of-success/I don't doubt you have good reasons.
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S&W Mountain Guns are ridiculous in price nowadays. Damn! Might be a good time to put my mint, stainless, pre-lock, .45 ACP, Mountain Gun up for sale.
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In a Bisley I went .45 Colt with an extra .45 ACP cylinder for lighter. .45 Colt may not be common in stores, but lots of cheap .45 ACP out there. I'll handload for both, but some of that .45 ACP is really cheap! I might have gone .44 Mag., but 5-1/2" Stainless Bisley .44 Mags are rare and expensive, and that is the configuration I wanted.
In a Redhawk, you might go the .44 Mag. route with the .44 Spl. for lighter. But if you don't handload I don't know how common .44 Spl. is in stores. If you want to load it "balls out", those guys will tell you there is more to be had with the .45 Colt. Both are good. You just need to figure out how all that ammo sources/availability "stuff" works for your situation.
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