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There's not many out there that won't do 200 yards really.

I like the .300 Savage, .30-30, .243, .44 mag

Really, lots of options. They'll all kill deers


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Originally Posted by gunnut308
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250 Savage


Yes! No recoil, flat, fast, a dandy from way back.


I have a .250 I had rebarreled on a Howa 1500 that was chambered in .22-250. I put a Krieger SS barrel on it chambered for of course the .250 Savage. It has a bit of a long throat, by design from my gun smith and the barrel's a bit long at 26" but it gives some fantastic MV with 115 grain Combined Technologies. I won't say what velocity or powder charge. I will say I use RL-17, a fantastic propellant for such a small case. I gave that info out on another forum and got lambasted and told I was making pipe bombs. But I worked that load up over months of testing and I'm here to tell you it's safe. I did go a bit far at first and thought everything was rosie until I tried repriming the brass. The pockets were loose and that was once fired brass, the once firing being done by me, in other words my first loading they were new. So I backed off a couple of grains and worked back up to one grain shy of where I had been. No loose primers and was more accurate than before. I held it there and am quite satisfied. No stretched cases either or rather not excessively. It's all normal.

And yes, it is quite a dandy. It's a real pleasure to shoot.

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Originally Posted by Bocajnala
There's not many out there that won't do 200 yards really.

I like the .300 Savage, .30-30, .243, .44 mag

Really, lots of options. They'll all kill deers


That's a very true statement these days. My 94 AE in .30-30 is now, thanks to Hornady for introducing Lever Revolution ammo and Flex Tip Bullets for hand loaders, a bonified 200-250 yard rifle.

Of course, my .250 Savage will shoot with the big boys a lot farther than 250 yards. And I'm confident with it. But my real go to hunting rifle is still my .270 Winchester. With 130 grain SGKs it's still the king in the deer field.


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1/4 bore all the way. 257 Roberts will get it done.


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All three are fine. The Creedmoor will easily have the most factory ammo available, followed by the 7-08 then the .260.

The 7-08 with 140s has always had nearly the same recoil for me as my .270s with 130s. Not much of a difference at all.

If you’re hand loading, the 6.5 Creedmoor and the 120 NBT is tough to beat at those ranges. Kicks about like a .243 with 100s, as well.

If you shoot factory fodder, several of the rapid-expansion offerings in 120-130gr are absolutely devastating on deer. I’ve used the 125 Winchester Deer Season XP and 129 Browning BXR with very impressive results. These two loadings have me seriously thinking about not loading my own deer ammo for the rifle.

If you need to shoot elk and moose, pick a good 140-class lead bullet or a Barnes 120 TTSX or 127 LRX and bring a sharp knife.

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I just do not understand too much power and too flat shooting.
It's well established that a 22 will kill damn near everything walking.

If, if, if.

I want, and can have more.


Having killed deer with guns from 22 to 300 mag, plus various muzzleloaders,
and a handgun or two, my conclusions are a bit different than conclusions others
have made. I must confess that in some cases I have up quick on something that
didn't satisfy me on the first or second try.

Personally, I have never killed a deer too dead. And I have never wished for a higher trajectory.
That said, the 300 is a bigger, heavier gun that recoil more than the T3 Sweede.
The Sweede has become pretty popular for me.

However,

In an example of just a few deer, it doesn't seem to leave them where
they stood like the 308 or 30-06. Trying different bullets if it gets used this year.

So maybe, the 6.5 kills them just right,
since the 30's are overkill. wink


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well when I 'win big' , im going to buy the most accurate mechanical watch in the world (even though I don't care to be anywhere on time).
and my highly modified Porche GT2 -RS-MR...will have carbon ceramic brakes (even though I don't plan on having to 'stop fast')
cause I don't break the speed limit. .. its 99.9% about braggin' rights.

...but I won't be going back to a .300 Roy .. grin


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Originally Posted by fishdog52
How about a 300 Savage using a 130 gr TSX or a 150 gr Partition? Been working for near a century, mostly without premium bullets.


Originally Posted by REvans1957
7X57 with a 140 grain Partition at about 2750-2800 FPS will just about do it all for me.



I've got a great affinity for both of these notions. Naturally, nearly endless permutations of other bores/chamberings would performa equally well. It's cool we have all these choices.

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Lots of choices for a 200 yard hunter, a 25-06 would be great.

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Something in 6mm or 6.5mm. So basically .243 or 6.5 Creedmoor. The .260 is heading for dead as is the 6.5x55, but if you want to there's nothing stopping you - they're just fashion statements that say "I like old things that aren't designed that well". There will be no practical difference except for extra rifle weight on the 6.5x55.

If you're going for larger animals (elk, large bears, etc.), it would definitely be a 6.5mm as they're the only option that offers reasonably high sectional density (and thus potential for penetration) at the bullet weight you're wanting to shoot.

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Yea know for moderate range med game tho old 257 Roberts gets it done as well as it has for many years...

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Originally Posted by rainierrifleco
Yea know for moderate range med game tho old 257 Roberts gets it done as well as it has for many years...


There is a reason my .257 Roberts quickly became my favorite rifle. At my hunting altitudes there isn't anything I do inside 400 yards that it can't handle well. With a 110g AB @ 3163fps it maintains over 2300fps and 1300fpe at 500 yards.


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To answer your question...7-08 with any 140gr.

In my opinion, if you’re a handloader, load the 270 with Barnes 95gr TTSX @ 3000fps and kill chit.

If you’re not....
223 w/Barnes 62gr TSX
243 (85-100gr)
6.5Grendel w/123gr SST Hornady
30-30 (125-150gr)

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7.62x39


All of them do something better than the 30-06, but none of them do everything as well.
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Of the rounds you mentioned, I’d choose the 7mm08

But I’ll agree that the softest shooting round mentioned so far (7.62x39) works just fine with a 123 Grain SST. It kills far quicker than it’s paper numbers would suggest. My fav platform for that round is the CZ 527 Carbine.

But a 7mm08 would certainly work too.


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That would be a cast bullet in a bolt gun situation for me. Or a cast bullet in a lever gun. If the range is 200 or less, I think I'll pick a 100gr flat point in 243 doing about 2500 using 3031. Or a 155 flat point in a 270 doing about 2400 using 3031. Or a 200 flat point in 30-06, going about 2400, using 4064. Or a 175 flat point in 30-30, doing about 2200. I could go on and on. I have endless stuff for shots 200 or less, including several handguns.

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Originally Posted by fishdog52
How about a 300 Savage using a 130 gr TSX or a 150 gr Partition? Been working for near a century, mostly without premium bullets.
Then there is the trusty old 30-30.
Both seriously underestimated by most of today's shooters.

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Originally Posted by szihn
243, 257 Roberts, 25-06, 6.5X55, 260 or 6.5 CM.

If you think about it, a 223 with a 1-8 or 1-7 twist is also very good for accuracy and very inexpensive to fire. Shoots 55-80 grain bullets very well.

At 200 and under, the 223 works fine on deer with correct bullets and doesn't kick. Loaded with nosler Partitions, Bonded bullets of 60-70 grains or expanding solids like the GMX or the Barnes it is a very good deer killer
I have seen it done a lot more then I have done it myself, but I can say what I have seen has impressed me for more then I thought it would when the 223 was made legal for deer and antelope here in Wyoming.
So far it's been 100%

But....you didn't tell us what the rifle would be used for, so I and everyone else afrre really just making guesses.


Another option for the .223 is the Speer 70 grain Semi Spitzer. That's all we used in my old 788 Remington with a 1:12 twist rate. It stablized them fine and killed very nicely out to at least .200 yards. That's extreme range for 90% of the shots at deer that I've seen.

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Originally Posted by mgorm16640
1/4 bore all the way. 257 Roberts will get it done.



My first thought as well; not sure why the 140 GR bullet matters. A 115 NPT or NBT will git er done.

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I went with a Ruger American in 300 blackout for deer under 200 yards. Flat enough, good bullets in the 110 ttsx, and very accurate. Also very handy with the 16.1” barrel. Very low recoil and noise.

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