Home Forums Hunting & Shooting Hunter's Campfire Do you think as a side-armed citizen, you could have thwarted the El Paso shooter?

You would prefer less of a response?

That might be the price to be paid. Seems like that is what police and military do every day. Sometimes give their own life to save others.

If one is going to CCW, they must accept the fact that they may have to give their life defending themselves or others and their death may be by LEO.
Accept that or don't carry.

It isn't "fair". It isn't "nice". It's fact.

Yup. I could hit him in the head offhand first shot from about as far.as you can see in a Wal-Mart if he stood still a couple beats. That's cause I have a range on my property and shoot much more than average. My situation is not the usual.

However, cops shoot everything that .moves when they're scared. So my gun would be for getting me and mine out of there. Those other people have to learn to do the same . then these shootings will cease.

Only if a guy was using a 9mm loaded with better powder and bullets. The 40 can’t be shot accurately enough, the 45 is antiquated and to slow to travel enough distance, and might be stopped by Chinese linens. (Sarcasm)

This.

Due to a lot of unseen circumstances and no matter the degree of training that one has been through it’s an unknown factor as to how one could and would respond!

99% of folks ain’t Chuck Norris!!

Not everyone has the stones to do it. Peterson is a coward because he was trained to do it.

However, IIRC, in virtually every case where one of these nutcases is confronted by any sort of armed resistance, they either give up or off themselves immediately. None of them have the stones for a gun fight either.

It also depends on whether or not you had your kids or grand babies with you at the time. Your first instinct would be to get them out of there to safety-not engaging the shooter unless they were upon you and you had no other choice....far too many unknown variables.

Well it would depend on the specifics of the situation. More precisely if the situation came to the point where i was forced to and still able to engage the shooter, then yes Im confident that my equipment and skill level could disable a shooter. Wouldnt be my first priority though, that would be getting me and my loved ones the hell outta there! Not going to play super trooper and go out of my way to seek the gunman out first!

he would kill his pregnant wife

That was Scott, not Scot. LOL

Friend of mines daughter was working in a gun free mall when a mass shooting took place. She retreated to a back room WITH her pistol. She said there were two shots from a different pistol and the murders ended. No one came forward of course.

Had I been there with my family...and armed....and could pull a mother hen and escape with my chicks...


I probably would have.

Maybe once they were safe I could have gone back. I dont know.

I certainly would have tried. Without question if I saw him first he would be dead. I shoot a lot and my carry pistol is a tackdriver. That said I know so many people that absolutely lack the ability to do anything but get in the way when armed. I think any opposition would at least have slowed him down. Yes I would worry about LEO shooting me.

If you engaged him early in the incident you could have put some holes in him, got in your car and driven to Shoneys before the cops got there. I guarantee you the SWAT team got there way after everyone else. Didn't the guy give up, without incident up a couple blocks away?

I paraphrase Clint Smith - a pistol is used to fight your way to your rifle.

Yes, or died trying, even if half the dead were stinking illegals with tax dollar funded ebt cards in their pockets, you need a good reason for killing.

He also said your sidearm is a way to acquire a long arm, i.e., from the first bad guy you shot with your handgun.

My first thought as well. Quickly followed by "what the hell does he have to do with this discussion?"

Then I recalled the coward from Broward.