No love for the Kahr K9? Damned innovative for when it was made. First PPK sized, single stack, striker fired, 9mm to hit the market, and they were pretty reliable. Although I didn't get a Kahr till they came out with the P9 a few years later. In the twenty years I've had mine, having shot in excess of five thousand rounds through it, I've yet to experience any kind of failure to fire when the trigger was pulled on a loaded chamber.
No love for the Kahr K9? Damned innovative for when it was made. First PPK sized, single stack, striker fired, 9mm to hit the market, and they were pretty reliable. Although I didn't get a Kahr till they came out with the P9 a few years later. In the twenty years I've had mine, having shot in excess of five thousand rounds through it, I've yet to experience any kind of failure to fire when the trigger was pulled on a loaded chamber.
I've had the K9 longer than probably anybody here. Proof is that it is an electroless nickel finish, which was soon discontinued. If you base it on which I have carried the most and am likely to carry the most in the foreseeable future, that would be my favorite. Smoooth DAO trigger. Not too light, not too heavy (both the trigger and the gun). Never a wear or corrosion problem anywhere. Very accurate, and yes reliable. Never a bobble with factory ammo or proper handloads (didn't like some poorly sized loads the HiPower ate without complaint). Thousands of rounds through it (I've lost count). Yeah, I love it.
Favorite full-size would be the HP. Favorite "wish I had one but won't pay the price" would be the P7M8.
I thought the same about the P7 until I owned a couple. They were OK, but IMO are very overrated. Nice collector pieces for sure, but for a shooter a lot of modern pistols have surpassed them (by a long way) in my experience. They do have a certain flair though, without question. I've always been more interested in shooting than collecting, so mine went on down the road.
I think my favorite steel frame 9mm pistols are the CZ75 series and Tanfoglio (EAA Witness) pistols, with a caveat - they almost all need some internal polishing and other work to be smoothed out and have great triggers. The match versions of both brands are generally capable of excellent accuracy and are very mild to shoot when tuned right.
I thought the same about the P7 until I owned a couple. They were OK, but IMO are very overrated. Nice collector pieces for sure, but for a shooter a lot of modern pistols have surpassed them (by a long way) in my experience. They do have a certain flair though, without question. I've always been more interested in shooting than collecting, so mine went on down the road.
I think my favorite steel frame 9mm pistols are the CZ75 series and Tanfoglio (EAA Witness) pistols, with a caveat - they almost all need some internal polishing and other work to be smoothed out and have great triggers. The match versions of both brands are generally capable of excellent accuracy and are very mild to shoot when tuned right.
Shooting the P7 is the best part of owning one.
I got banned on another web site for a debate that happened on this site. That's a first
I thought the same about the P7 until I owned a couple. They were OK, but IMO are very overrated. Nice collector pieces for sure, but for a shooter a lot of modern pistols have surpassed them (by a long way) in my experience. They do have a certain flair though, without question. I've always been more interested in shooting than collecting, so mine went on down the road.
I think my favorite steel frame 9mm pistols are the CZ75 series and Tanfoglio (EAA Witness) pistols, with a caveat - they almost all need some internal polishing and other work to be smoothed out and have great triggers. The match versions of both brands are generally capable of excellent accuracy and are very mild to shoot when tuned right.
Pretty empty comparison, your preferred pistol that needs work and you think a P7 is surpassed today. Overrated? Well again a mighty empty bowl you are serving up.
I do know that I have owned many and still do own several P7s that will out shoot almost any production gun out of the box. I have never honed or polished a single one and they all have performed exceptionally well. They are about the most ergonomic pistol, sitting low in the hand with a 4.13 inch barrel in what would be impossible for any competitor to have a shorter overall slide configuration with that barrel length. The barrel is fixed in the frame and makes it extremely accurate and polygonal rifling will make the barrel practically impossible to wear out.
They are extremely robust and will function reliably with a recoil/delayed blowback design and a fluted chamber that will still extract a fired case should the extractor fail or break. The grip gives a great purchase and easily pointable sight acquisition and yet the magazine is straight up and down with the most reliable functioning magazine you can get. The magazines alone will withstand a cinder block being dropped on them from over 2 feet and still function.
Expensive? Yes. Overrated, surpassed, not really...
Sig P210-6, the old model. Laser like accuracy and flat shooting.
I remember when those came into the country in large numbers back in the 1990s, retired from the Swiss military and police due to replacement with a more modern handgun. I think they were going for around $400.00 apiece. I was working at a LGS when this happened, and could have gotten a nice employee discount, but was too short on money, and couldn't justify it, other than for cool factor (I mean, come one, a single stack 9mm of that size?). Now I regret not picking one up. They were all in nice mechanical condition.
Learned a lot by the feedback, appreciate all. Missed a few P7s over the years, always curious about them, sounds like ahead of their time. Kahr's - yes they are solid, no flies.
Read about possible ammo FTF...with BHP....anyone? Are they all same re: ramp/chamber design? Seems I read certain JHP may not feed well.
Many solid choices. Not one mention of a Springfield EMP? Anyone try one?
I thought the same about the P7 until I owned a couple. They were OK, but IMO are very overrated. Nice collector pieces for sure, but for a shooter a lot of modern pistols have surpassed them (by a long way) in my experience. They do have a certain flair though, without question. I've always been more interested in shooting than collecting, so mine went on down the road.
I think my favorite steel frame 9mm pistols are the CZ75 series and Tanfoglio (EAA Witness) pistols, with a caveat - they almost all need some internal polishing and other work to be smoothed out and have great triggers. The match versions of both brands are generally capable of excellent accuracy and are very mild to shoot when tuned right.
Pretty empty comparison, your preferred pistol that needs work and you think a P7 is surpassed today. Overrated? Well again a mighty empty bowl you are serving up.
I do know that I have owned many and still do own several P7s that will out shoot almost any production gun out of the box. I have never honed or polished a single one and they all have performed exceptionally well. They are about the most ergonomic pistol, sitting low in the hand with a 4.13 inch barrel in what would be impossible for any competitor to have a shorter overall slide configuration with that barrel length. The barrel is fixed in the frame and makes it extremely accurate and polygonal rifling will make the barrel practically impossible to wear out.
They are extremely robust and will function reliably with a recoil/delayed blowback design and a fluted chamber that will still extract a fired case should the extractor fail or break. The grip gives a great purchase and easily pointable sight acquisition and yet the magazine is straight up and down with the most reliable functioning magazine you can get. The magazines alone will withstand a cinder block being dropped on them from over 2 feet and still function.
Expensive? Yes. Overrated, surpassed, not really...
could not agree more
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