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Equating a flight simulator to a video game is nuts. Few of us could afford or house one. The game give no vertigo, feedback, g forces ..... which a pilot needs.
I do believe there are people who would license journalism, limit speech to what they like, suspend the 5th

Like.

They would likely have to install those signs on all roads leading into our county...................even here in Kommifornia.

And the next county over, and the ones south to the Mexican border.

Geno

OK, how about Madden? Damn near every pro baller plays Madden.

This isn't about stable, responsible guys like Kellory, this is about the marginal ones in society, people who can't figure out which bathroom to use, etc.

Of course, when you ask crazy people if they thought they were crazy, you'll get nearly 100% "no".

The left really wants total gun confiscation. No guns no crime, sophism at its best. Then white delivery trucks, and, and, and...

Bottom line is that they don't even want the cops to have guns.

Tyrone gets it.

There are garmers who are just fine, well-adjusted, etcetera and would be so with or without video games. Same holds true for guns. It's the dweebs in the basement, the nurks who develop a Napoleon complex, who are entitled to be CEO of everything....those are the ones who ruin it for everyone by sucking the issue down to the lowest common denominator. Bottom line is, they don't become citizens as we think of the concept.

Look at the other threat on Whitegirl Bleed a Lot. How many of the perps there, the great unremarked and uncovered by the media, are what we would think of as upstanding citizens and human beings?

Sometimes I wonder if when you turn 18, you should actually have to take a citizenship test in order to be allowed to vote or exercise any affirmative rights. I suppose if you fail, you'd still have certain due process protections, and could take the test again in five years until you pass.

That was her job as second lady.

It was going to be worse as first lady.

You guys don't remember that?

Kennyd, they make flight simulators that run on your home computer. You're thinking of the full-blown cockpit simulators like the military and airlines use. But look up Microsoft Flight Simulator and you'll see what we mean. Here's a LINK

It's a game - and a trainer. Just like first-person shooter games are.

An unpopular message. See my signature line.

What about Airsoft? Paintball? Firearms competitions?

MMA?

The top echelon I agree and I doubt that includes many in congress, the masses haven't a clue

How about this....

Fix the existing background check program by insuring all local police and psychiatric records be tied to the federal database.

Pass state exemption laws that standardize gun laws across all municipalities.

Revoke all onerous gun laws that are shown to be ineffective or unenforceable.

Rigorously enforce existing gun laws for use of guns in violent crimes, gun possession by felons, and illegal gun trafficking.

Make prison sentences for gun violence consecutive, not concurrent.

Re-institute the death penalty with no insanity defense.

Rebuild the mental health system.

The "maturity level" of lots of gun owners is nothing to brag about.
If you need proof, just read many of the posts on this site.

Any changes to existing gun laws must include the following -

1. Nationwide concealed carry - one permit good in all states.

2. Re-opening the machine gun registry.

3. No increase in the age to buy long guns unless coupled to an increase in the voting age.

We NEVER back down and we NEVER give in. That's my stance.

Oh, and FBI or whatever letter agency - if you're listening you can GFY. I'm a citizen - not a subject.

Obviously more "murder training".

I'll agree it may be a piece,of the problem...but really isn't it like the same thinking as taking my guns because some crazy guy went on a shooting spree...
There should be an age limit yes...
It's back to the parents...I never let my kids watch inappropriate movies and games...as those kids are parents and forbid those games..also the grandkids don't get free range TV

My fantasy is better (I think anyway)

ENFORCE the 2nd amendment as written. (Highest law of the Land)

NO limits on it at all for anyone not convicted of a violent crime. No back ground checks (less taxes spent here) Just a HUGH percentage of armed citizens at all places and at all times so criminal would get weeded out prettry fast and those that have records of such behavior would simply get shot in their first crimes so a "record" (Less taxes spent here) would not be very relevant.


Give all citizens a 2% break on their federal taxes when they complete a realistic combat shooting course with the handgun of their choice, and give an additional 1% break when they complete the rifle course. Having a huge "security force" instead of paying a few "professionals" to be in place (most of the time not being where they'd need to be) is far more effective and would cost nothing additional to the tax payers, so a small break to provide the security for themselves is appropriate instead of taking tax monies to pay people to do it for them. (Remember Browards Cowards???)

Restart government armories as was done through the WW2 years making ammo, so the current use of all purchases being made through civilian companies or sub-contractors is no longer the sole way of acquiring ammo for the government. When such arsenals are again in use, send stocks of ammo in 22 LR, 9MM, 45 ACP, 223 and 308 to states and counties, so the issue ammo is available to the civilian population. Any civilian who can lawfully own a firearm can shoot qualification courses with issue ammo, and any one that can shoot a score of 90% or higher in a stress-course will be given a 2% break in their state and county taxes. For a score of 90%+ in a simple target course they shooter gets a 1% break. Fewer cops are then needed to the security of the free states, so again tax money can be reassigned.

Small arms to me made available to all qualified citizens at the same cost as the Army and Navy pay for them.

Ammo is free for each rifle and handgun purchased up to 400 rounds a year. All additional ammo available at the same cost to the citizens as it is to the government the citizens are supposed to own. Government of today seems to believe they own the citizens. That's backwards And cops and politicians are NOT to be a protected class or a superior class. They are to be under the citizens, never over them.

Arm everyone until you have a specific LAWFUL reason to disarm individuals but NEVER disarm classes of people. The right of the PEOPLE (that doesn't say government workers and no one else) to KEEP and BEAR ARMS shall NOT be infringed.

Correct dictionary definitions of the words and phrases , as used by the founding fathers at the time of the adoption of the "Bill of Rights".


A well ______________________________(successful or effective)
regulated _____________________________(accurate and properly functioning)
Militia______________________________( Every able bodied man between the ages of 17 and 60 who has not been adjudicated mentally ill or convicted of a capital or infamous crime, who has at least 2 front teeth and a trigger finger.)

being necessary________________________( Vital and indispensable)
to the security__________________________(Freedom from risk or danger; safety)
of a free______________________________( Not imprisoned or enslaved; being at liberty. Not controlled by obligation or the will of another
State,__________________________________(the condition or circumstances of a person or thing, a sovereign political power or community, the territory of such a community)

the right _______________________________(a freedom or power that is morally or legally due to a citizen. God Given. Not a privilege which can be revoked, but a condition that can not be lawfully taken away for any reason by another, and can only be surrendered by the holder for the cause of free will, as a sacrifice. A citizen can be deprived of rights criminally by act of infringement by another citizens or official, which would not constitute a waver of rights, but such acts are the very essence of base vulgarity and crime. The state of liberty therefore can be surrendered, the citizen stepping out from under the protection of law, and in fact giving the rights up, but the act of attempting to deprive another of a right or set of rights is unlawful in every instance. )

of the people__________________________( the body politic of the nation. Individual person. All the common men women and children ,all and in singular. (The same context as used in the 1st, 2nd, 4th 5th 9th and 10th amendments and implied in the 6th 7th and 8th)*

to keep ______________________________(To retain personal possession, have a supply of, or to maintain for use or service.)
and bear ______________________________(To carry from one place to another; transport at will, unrestrained .)
Arms________________________________ (weapons that can be man packed by 6 men or fewer. In times of open conflict any instrument or instrumentality used in fighting in a military action.
shall not be infringed.____________________(To transgress, violate, defeat, invalidate or encroach on someone or something in any way, shape, form or manor.

The leftist politics of today are all about two things:

1. Find or invent and magnify some threat. Then get yourself elected to protect the masses from it. When I was a teenager, one of the imagined social threats was gangs armed with switchblade knives. And that got us a bunch of silly anti-switchblade laws. About the same time, it was the coming ice age. Now it's gun violence. You can fool some of the people all the time, and all the people some of the time, and that is sufficient to get people elected.

2. Stoke anger, resentment, and discontent, pitting one group against another. Raising the tension makes it easier to get people who are afraid of firearms to vote for gun control.

The first thing we need to realize is that the more armed, responsible people that we have, the safer we are. Our country has 17,250 homicides of all types per year. We also have 2,350,000 defensive gun uses. That means that for every homicide of any type, there are 136 incidents where a citizen protected themselves by drawing a gun. The first rule of gun safety is to have a gun.

Blaming firearms for our social problems is nothing more than a way of transferring guilt to an inanimate object, to avoid taking a hard look at the things we should really be working on, such as healing the anger caused in order to deliberately raise tensions.

Start calling violence what it is: race violence, rage violence, theft motivated violence or whatever. Why is it gun violence? Or fist violence? Or lumber violence?

I say, make sure the prohibited person list is up to date and complete. The military has been very lax about getting its information entered. Some states are pretty diligent about keeping their entries up to date (Utah being one), and others are very lax. Get everyone who is prohibited on the list, including illegal aliens. Then create a safe harbor law, such that if you sell a firearm in an in-state face to face deal, and it's used in a crime, you can't be sued or prosecuted as long as you checked the database before the sale. With that, people will voluntarily do background checks before doing face to face sales.

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Denton, you've been reading Alinsky and the Democratic Playbook again, haven't you.