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Re: Question for you pocket carry guys... [Re: 41magfan] #14040687 08/10/19
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Originally Posted by 41magfan
As for pocket-carry in general (at least front pocket carry), the advantages far out-weigh the disadvantages when you consider them in totality. Having the option of standing around casually with a firing grip on a gun that's less than a second away from making noise is a pretty significant advantage in the world I live in .... not to mention the fact that the movement associated with me removing my hand from my pocket is completely innocuous.

Action vs reaction is a very real thing and pocket carry can put you way ahead in that cycle of decision making.


This is my feeling exactly.

When something looks like it may be a threat, but I don't want to overreact without more info, and I don't want to put and keep my hand on the small of my back giving myself away, I like being able to just casually and non-obviously put my hand in my right pocket in case something goes south. I am much more ready to ack very quickly far more often that way.

I put my P938 in a sticky holster in a type of pants pocket that gives a lot of room to draw quickly and cleanly without any advance notice to anyone.

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Re: Question for you pocket carry guys... [Re: RJM] #14040772 08/10/19
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I'm like cheyenne
My pocket carrying is around the house around town in busy places and even to that extent it's usually a back up at that


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Re: Question for you pocket carry guys... [Re: RoninPhx] #14043057 08/11/19
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Originally Posted by RoninPhx
years ago a deputy was sitting in a sambo's restaurant with his back to the front door. guy comes in intending on shooting his wife further back. so he puts a round in the back of the deputies head prior to taking out his wife.
to this day i won't sit in a restaurant unless my back is to a wall, and i have clear view of the traffic in the restaurant. usually there is a fanny pack sitting by me on the bench seat with ready access.
In thinking about it tho, i have always preferred some type of holster, rather than having to dig one out of a pocket.

Gosh, didn't the guy learn anything from watching 1960s TV westerns. Marshal Dillon never sat with his back to the door. And neither have I.


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Re: Question for you pocket carry guys... [Re: RJM] #14044141 08/12/19
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Seated in a car with a seat belt on is very difficult with pocket carry. Seated in a restaurant is a little better because I can lean back a little in my seat to straighten out and draw. Pocket carry is most convenient for walking around in public because it allows you to discreetly put your hand in your pocket without bringing undo attention to yourself.

Re: Question for you pocket carry guys... [Re: RJM] #14044903 08/12/19
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Originally Posted by RJM
How long does it take for you to draw when seated in a car all belted in or having lunch at a restaurant...

I ran a "come as you carry" class about 15 years ago and the few people in the class who did pocket carry died in most of the scenarios that were based on real incidents....

I rarely pocket carry but when I do it is usually in a BDU pocket that has Velcro flap hold downs and a dedicated DeSantis BDU holster that holds the gun and an extra magazine.

Just wondering if any of you who do always pocket carry do any "practical practice" and how long it takes you to get a shot off once you know there is a threat to be delt with...

Bob


This place never fails to amuse. Bob asked two questions, and a lot of guys replied - but only one (cv540) answered even one question.

I gave up pocket carry entirely, for reasons almost definitely not applicable to others. Practice only confirms that decision for me. That's my answer. It looks like most of the other answers (unspoken) are "no" and "don't know".


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Re: Question for you pocket carry guys... [Re: RJM] #14045448 08/12/19
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I guess I am semi qualified to give an answer since I do sometimes pocket carry an lcp. However,,,
My preference is a strong side reverse or cavalry draw inside the pants position. This allows a pretty decent draw even when seated and much better than a pocket when seatbelted in. I used this carry method most of my years in an under cover capacity in a drug unit. Dark pistol tucked in under a dark t-shirt tends to disappear.
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Re: Question for you pocket carry guys... [Re: RJM] #14045874 08/12/19
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RJM, When I am driving, I have several handguns with in immediate reach.. Even if I have my J frames in a pocket... My favorite method for pocket carry is in a safari type vest.. I slip one in the right and left pockets, so the vest is balanced.. I can slip my hands easily to either revolver the vest is a bit loose, fast draw would not be a good option.. But I felt if it was mandatory, I would just shoot though the vest?? Maybe a pretty stupid idea, but I am able to carry concealed at times of the year it would be difficult or uncomfortable to carry otherwise...


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Re: Question for you pocket carry guys... [Re: RoninPhx] #14047192 08/13/19
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Originally Posted by RoninPhx
years ago a deputy was sitting in a sambo's restaurant with his back to the front door. guy comes in intending on shooting his wife further back. so he puts a round in the back of the deputies head prior to taking out his wife.
to this day i won't sit in a restaurant unless my back is to a wall,

Did the cop have aces and eights in his hand?



Re: Question for you pocket carry guys... [Re: RJM] #14049054 08/13/19
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I pocket carry or inside the waist band carry. But when I’m in my truck driving my pistol is resting on my console. I’m always aware of my surroundings period.


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Re: Question for you pocket carry guys... [Re: The_Real_Hawkeye] #14049188 08/14/19
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Originally Posted by The_Real_Hawkeye
Google has never heard of Detroit Carry. What is it exactly?

I'm from Detroit and I never heard of it.

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Re: Question for you pocket carry guys... [Re: RJM] #14049405 08/14/19
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Where I live if I take the gun off body inside a vehicle and stash it for quick access I would be subject to arrest during any traffic stop. Read your state statute for transporting firearms in vehicles. A dedicated driving only crossdraw or ankle rig?

Re: Question for you pocket carry guys... [Re: UPhiker] #14049617 08/14/19
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Originally Posted by UPhiker
Originally Posted by The_Real_Hawkeye
Google has never heard of Detroit Carry. What is it exactly?

I'm from Detroit and I never heard of it.







Attach the holster to the car seat belt.


Prefer another holster attached to steering column... transfer to cc holster when exiting vehicle...mobetr.


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Re: Question for you pocket carry guys... [Re: RJM] #14049644 08/14/19
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I knew a bartender who kept a .25ACP Colt in his hip pocket. At home one night his wife yelled up from the basement that she was doing a load of laundry and for him to throw down the pants he was wearing. When the pants hit the concrete floor the gun he'd forgotten about discharged and put a bullet straight into her ass cheek. He never lived it down, and she never forgot.


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Re: Question for you pocket carry guys... [Re: SheriffJoe] #14049891 08/14/19
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Originally Posted by SheriffJoe
Originally Posted by UPhiker
Originally Posted by The_Real_Hawkeye
Google has never heard of Detroit Carry. What is it exactly?

I'm from Detroit and I never heard of it.







Attach the holster to the car seat belt.

Andrews carjacker holster works exceptionally well for this.
http://www.andrewsleather.com/

Prefer another holster attached to steering column... transfer to cc holster when exiting vehicle...mobetr.


This can cause you headaches at least in Nebraska. Recent State Supreme Court ruling says that if the weapon is not on your person then you are not in control of the weapon and any person riding in that vehicle can be charged as carrying a concealed weapon.
Dumb yes, but that’s the way it is.



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Re: Question for you pocket carry guys... [Re: Swifty52] #14049907 08/14/19
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Yeah, that's why it's not called the Nebraska Carry...


Nebraska gun laws appear to be VERY restrictive after reading the fine print.


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Re: Question for you pocket carry guys... [Re: SheriffJoe] #14049926 08/14/19
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Originally Posted by SheriffJoe




Yeah, that's why it's not called the Nebraska Carry...

When I went to visit my nephew in Arizona last Spring, I saw that he does something very similar, i.e., he has a Glock in a Kydex holster stuffed between his driver's seat and the center console. Not sure if it's legal for just anyone to do it, because he's a cop there. I imagine it is, though, since that state is very good on gun rights.


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Re: Question for you pocket carry guys... [Re: RJM] #14049939 08/14/19
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The Nebraska Supreme Court clarified an existing law regarding concealed carry in cars by **non-permit holders**, ruling that guns must be stowed in a location that is completely unavailable to the driver at all times.


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Where I'm at today... you better have a CHL to EVEN have a loaded magazine in public.


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Originally Posted by SheriffJoe




The Nebraska Supreme Court clarified an existing law regarding concealed carry in cars by **non-permit holders**, ruling that guns must be stowed in a location that is completely unavailable to the driver at all times.


We’re an open carry state, always have been. When they made this ruling our local gun rights group got all in a tizzy about people were going to get arrested for transportation of their duck guns or deer rifles. Not so. Hard as it may seem but those weapons and transportation of them has always been covered under Game laws. Unloaded with the action open, visible or cased no rounds in the chamber, magazine or tube. Handguns in plain sight.
The case that sent them into a tizzy was a guy had a loaded handgun in a case which was not readily visible. Plus he didn’t tell the officer he had it.
Now as far as can I tuck one in between the seat and console Yes with a CHP. Can I have a 10” knife stuck under the seat No, even with CHP.
Can I messican carry Yes, but if for any reason I am disarmed by LE, paramedics etc etc, they can’t legally give back the weapon unless I have a holster on my person. Which also applies to the one between the seat, hanging from the column or magnet on the dash.



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Worse, Nebraska law indicates you are required to DISCLOSE the fact and location of concealed carry when asked by LE.


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