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Originally Posted by edapp
I think the biggest reason it might be a gateway drug is because it is lumped in with drugs much more severe.
Kids hear it in the same sentence with heroin and meth. DONT DO IT! IT WILL KILL YOU! Then they smoke pot for the first time and realize it is less intoxicating than alcohol.... they probably assume people were exaggerating about the hard drugs as well.
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Thank you edapp. That's right, kids believe the BS they hear from the government about how bad pot is, then they smoke pot, they realize they have been lied to, and next you know they are on the oxycontin or heroin. NEVER lie to a kid they will never trust you again.
As for talk of pot causing violence, no, it is the opposite. I smoked pot for ten years. Yes, started at age 19 and smoked till age 29 or so.
And in that time, I got a 4 year college degree, lettered 3 years in soccer, worked construction full time in summer to pay for school, and spent three years after graduation working construction full time.
I would smoke a joint some times at the end of the day, maybe three times a week. Pot never made me violent, nor did it make my buddies violent. Made me want to lay around and listen to music and eat ice cream. Also, some girls I knew liked to smoke pot, it made for some fun in the bedroom I can assure you of that.
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I bet a lot of the people who are virulently antiweed have drinking problems and want to pretend that they are better than pot smokers, just because their choice is now legal.
Didn't making alcohol illegal also cause a lot more violence?
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I’m shocked at the number here that don’t believe in freedom. For real. Like those damn Chinese. Wonderful, saintly, libertarian British & European merchants brought them opium at prices nearly any man could afford and what did those unappreciative Chinese do? They started killing the merchants! Damn those heathens!
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As for talk of pot causing violence, no, it is the opposite. I smoked pot for ten years. Yes, started at age 19 and smoked till age 29 or so.
And in that time, I got a 4 year college degree, lettered 3 years in soccer, worked construction full time in summer to pay for school, and spent three years after graduation working construction full time.
I would smoke a joint some times at the end of the day, maybe three times a week. Pot never made me violent, nor did it make my buddies violent. Made me want to lay around and listen to music and eat ice cream. Also, some girls I knew liked to smoke pot, it made for some fun in the bedroom I can assure you of that. What's that? A sample of 3? Buddy, you have not met my college roommates. I almost had to slam one's head against a doorknob after he attacked me. Out of the 5 of us, I'm the only one that graduated. 3 of them ended up doing jail time, one for attempted murder (the one that didn't drink).
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You are asserting that pot made your roomates violent? No, my friend, that wasn't the pot. Maybe the boys were smoking some meth, I heard that is some nasty stuff makes guys crazy.
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Meth was not around much then. I would have known if they were smoking it. They would have shared.
It was the pot. They probably had better pot than you or smoked more of it.
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I am an owner of a cultivation company that just finally got an FDIC bank account this month. That is interesting to hear.......I was under the impression that the FEDs were going to have to pass the so called "states act" before pot companies got access to the banking system.....that is just from following the pot stocks on wall street. I also think that legalization is nigh on inevitable. There is too much money for the government to get their hands on at stake. Here in Georgia, I noticed a carton of Marlboros ON SALE for $65. I commented to the sales lady and she said cigs were cheaper here than in a lot of other states a carton cost $100 in Washington State where the lady was from. .....the bulk of which is taxes. I think federal and state govts are planning to do the same with pot.....legalize and tax hell out of it. Then of course they will get serious about cracking down on illegal growers. Another sign its coming is Altria and Constellation brands paying crazy high prices for pieces of as of now unprofitable Canadian pot companies........Cronos and Canopy respectively. The people running those companies are well connected and certainly not stupid. They wanted a foot in the door bad.....and I don't think they have only the Canadian market in mind. I also think it’s inevitable. This very large bank took us on without hesitation after my brief discussion with them. Before this we were getting paid in cash and paying with cash. Someone higher up knows something and is comfortable insuring our money federally. We are now also getting paid with checks instead of cash. This means the processors and dispensaries are also now getting bank accounts. Much safer and easier now out here in the Canna world.
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Originally Posted by edapp
I think the biggest reason it might be a gateway drug is because it is lumped in with drugs much more severe.
Kids hear it in the same sentence with heroin and meth. DONT DO IT! IT WILL KILL YOU! Then they smoke pot for the first time and realize it is less intoxicating than alcohol.... they probably assume people were exaggerating about the hard drugs as well.
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Thank you edapp. That's right, kids believe the BS they hear from the government about how bad pot is, then they smoke pot, they realize they have been lied to, and next you know they are on the oxycontin or heroin. NEVER lie to a kid they will never trust you again.
As for talk of pot causing violence, no, it is the opposite. I smoked pot for ten years. Yes, started at age 19 and smoked till age 29 or so.
And in that time, I got a 4 year college degree, lettered 3 years in soccer, worked construction full time in summer to pay for school, and spent three years after graduation working construction full time.
I would smoke a joint some times at the end of the day, maybe three times a week. Pot never made me violent, nor did it make my buddies violent. Made me want to lay around and listen to music and eat ice cream. Also, some girls I knew liked to smoke pot, it made for some fun in the bedroom I can assure you of that.
speaking of girl friends. With the invention of the birth control pill the crime rate took a nose dive. Was it caused by criminals spending more time in the bedroom or were there just less criminals being made. with the invention of phenothiazine tranquilizers the number of schizo taking up hospital beds decreased SSRI, SSNI, both helped lower the number of psychiatrists moving into the health care field. more folks are being treated on an out patient basis by NP, nurses, people prone to violent behavior regardless of their recreational preferences has increased, without increases on the medical side.
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Meth was not around much then. I would have known if they were smoking it. They would have shared.
It was the pot. They probably had better pot than you or smoked more of it. Yes it was, meth was invented by the Japs prior to WWII, and used by both them and the Germans all through the war. Meth was being made by the ton in San Fran. (and many other places) using aldehyde condensation, mixed with LSD and heroin during the 50s, 60s etc. you ran with a violent group
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I am an owner of a cultivation company that just finally got an FDIC bank account this month. That is interesting to hear.......I was under the impression that the FEDs were going to have to pass the so called "states act" before pot companies got access to the banking system.....that is just from following the pot stocks on wall street. I also think that legalization is nigh on inevitable. There is too much money for the government to get their hands on at stake. Here in Georgia, I noticed a carton of Marlboros ON SALE for $65. I commented to the sales lady and she said cigs were cheaper here than in a lot of other states a carton cost $100 in Washington State where the lady was from. .....the bulk of which is taxes. I think federal and state govts are planning to do the same with pot.....legalize and tax hell out of it. Then of course they will get serious about cracking down on illegal growers. Another sign its coming is Altria and Constellation brands paying crazy high prices for pieces of as of now unprofitable Canadian pot companies........Cronos and Canopy respectively. The people running those companies are well connected and certainly not stupid. They wanted a foot in the door bad.....and I don't think they have only the Canadian market in mind. I also think it’s inevitable. This very large bank took us on without hesitation after my brief discussion with them. Before this we were getting paid in cash and paying with cash. Someone higher up knows something and is comfortable insuring our money federally. We are now also getting paid with checks instead of cash. This means the processors and dispensaries are also now getting bank accounts. Much safer and easier now out here in the Canna world. Bigger player here are the liquor companies, who have a lot of money to loose if any kind of "rational" decisions are made on canabinoid pharmacology
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Etoh now don't be adding facts to the one-off anecdotes here. Heads might explode
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Etoh now don't be adding facts to the one-off anecdotes here. Heads might explode Yes, the plural of anecdote is not data Lot to be said for the saying, "when your talking to druggies your talking to the drug, not the person", expand this to "when your talking to people on chemicals, your talking to the chemical" that also includes prescription drugs, alcohol, etc. this does not exempt them from laws, excuse their behavior. "the drug made me do it" mentality
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Meth was not around much then. I would have known if they were smoking it. They would have shared.
It was the pot. They probably had better pot than you or smoked more of it. Ancedotal incidents don’t prove anything one way or the other. Meth has been around for a long time, but in the 70’s was referred to as crystal, rather than meth as it’s more commonly come to be known. Again small sample size, but my crew never felt like rumbling after smoking a bunch of pot, we were headed to the store for munchies. Now alcohol ? We were ready to rumble. Pot may indeed make some folks violent, but I’d wager it’d be a small amount, compared to say alcohol. Even driving, don’t believe you’ll find anywhere near the number of fatalities from smoking pot vs. alcohol. So for all you guys wanting to keep society safe from drugs, are you wanting to go back to prohibition of alcohol to limit harm ?
I'm pretty certain when we sing our anthem and mention the land of the free, the original intent didn't mean cell phones, food stamps and birth control.
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Government pot laws have worked out about as well as Alcohol prohibition did, yet with continued propaganda folks still support them..
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What's the difference between a drunk driver and a stoned driver at a stop sign?
The drunk blasts through it at 80 mph and smashes into a mini-van, killing all 6 kids inside.
The stoned driver sits at the stop sign for half an hour waiting for it to turn green...
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Pot is the only thing that keeps the jiggabbos halfway tolerable.
Take away the pot, they're gonna double up on the Hennessy. Then it'll be "Katy bar the door" sure 'nuff.
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What's the difference between a drunk driver and a stoned driver at a stop sign?
The drunk blasts through it at 80 mph and smashes into a mini-van, killing all 6 kids inside.
The stoned driver sits at the stop sign for half an hour waiting for it to turn green... unless its a 4 lane, the stoned driver puts it in reverse and slowly backs up, the car in the adjacent lane thinks there moving forward, freaks and slams on the brakes.
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Etoh now don't be adding facts to the one-off anecdotes here. Heads might explode Yes, the plural of anecdote is not data Lot to be said for the saying, "when your talking to druggies your talking to the drug, not the person", expand this to "when your talking to people on chemicals, your talking to the chemical" that also includes prescription drugs, alcohol, etc. this does not exempt them from laws, excuse their behavior. "the drug made me do it" mentality An observation made when I was attending Al-Anon after marrying (and finally divorcing) an alcoholic. "Alcohol is only 15% of the problem. Take away the alcohol and you still have 85% a**hole." Drugs work kinda the same way.
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