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The CZ 455 was on my wish list for a long time, but I could never afford it. Now, I see that the 457 has just been released, which seems even better. There is a problem, though. In addition to the cost of the rifle, I live in Connecticut, which requires that I purchase a special permit to buy guns and ammo, even though I already have a hunting license. This permit costs about $150.

I had decided to wait until I could justify the cost of the rifle before buying it. However, the recent talk of bipartisan federal background checks, which seem likely to be signed into law, makes me think that perhaps I should buy the permit, and just get a loan from a relative to buy the rifle now.

There are practical considerations, though. First, this is a new production rifle. Even though it's similar to the 455, it's still new. I think that it might be a good idea to wait a year or so before getting a 457 so that the flaws, if there are any, can be corrected. Do you think I should take a chance on an early run 457?

Secondly, I have heard that big box stores tend to get inferior rifles relative to small private dealers. Is this true?

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I have a 457 Varmint and love it...no problems.
No, there aren't any special grades of guns for big boxes vs. LGS.

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Why are you worried about this potential Universal Background Check?

If you are buying this rifle New and from a dealer, you will be required to go through the existing Background Check.

No new law will change that.


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The only thing I don't like about my 455 is the high bolt lift. Thinking about selling it to grab a 457 but I don't know if there are many lower ring options that I like.

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You have to buy a PERMIT to buy a gun, WTF kinda nazi [bleep] is that?

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Originally Posted by edapp
The only thing I don't like about my 455 is the high bolt lift. Thinking about selling it to grab a 457 but I don't know if there are many lower ring options that I like.

I have the Talley rings on mine.

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Originally Posted by The_Big_D
You have to buy a PERMIT to buy a gun, WTF kinda nazi [bleep] is that?


It’s called NEW ENGLAND; they’re just behind (old) England where they now have “knife control”...

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Northern New England is still good. It's who you have to travel through to get there that's the problem.

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I have a 457 in 17HMR - Awesome rifle. Fixed all my bitches about the 455, love it. Too bad about that Commie Law you have there in CT.


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Barrel is too long on the 457 American


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I have 455 Varmint and fullstock models. Delighted with both. Only real difference with the 457 is they Americanized the safety and tweeked a couple other things. Fine arms for sure

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So, do you need a new 150 dollar permit each time you buy a gun?


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WOW, for hundred and fifty bucks a guy can buy a nice used 22.
, Shop or get a little bit lucky and pay a lot less,

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Originally Posted by steve4102
Why are you worried about this potential Universal Background Check?

If you are buying this rifle New and from a dealer, you will be required to go through the existing Background Check.

No new law will change that.


My understanding is that in CT, a certificate is needed to purchase long guns or ammo, which costs $150, after paying for an approved course. A hunting license and hunter safety course are no longer considered sufficient. After speaking with an ATF agent, I was told that because I'm a CT resident, I can't purchase a long gun or ammo outside of CT without the Connecticut long gun and ammo certificate. I don't know if this is true or not, but it's what I was told. If any new federal regulations are implemented, it's possible that I'd be required to purchase a federal certificate as well. If I'm going to need to pay several hundred dollars more to get a rifle, I'd rather do so before I'm required to do so.

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Originally Posted by Jim_Conrad
Barrel is too long on the 457 American


Thanks for pointing that out. I see that the 455 is 20.5" in length, while the 457 is 24.8". The 457 has interchangeable barrels like the 455, right? Could the barrels be swapped, or would this cause problems with the bedding? Could the 455 be cut, or would this cause problems as well?

I don't know why CZ would have lengthened the barrel. Those extra 4" would be a problem for hunting in brush.

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Originally Posted by jnyork
So, do you need a new 150 dollar permit each time you buy a gun?


An approved course is needed to purchase the long gun and ammo certificate for $150, which must be renewed every five years. $150 doesn't have to be paid with each gun purchase.

Edit: The certificate is proof of having passed the background check.

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Originally Posted by carved
Originally Posted by steve4102
Why are you worried about this potential Universal Background Check?

If you are buying this rifle New and from a dealer, you will be required to go through the existing Background Check.

No new law will change that.


My understanding is that in CT, a certificate is needed to purchase long guns or ammo, which costs $150, after paying for an approved course. A hunting license and hunter safety course are no longer considered sufficient. After speaking with an ATF agent, I was told that because I'm a CT resident, I can't purchase a long gun or ammo outside of CT without the Connecticut long gun and ammo certificate. I don't know if this is true or not, but it's what I was told. If any new federal regulations are implemented, it's possible that I'd be required to purchase a federal certificate as well. If I'm going to need to pay several hundred dollars more to get a rifle, I'd rather do so before I'm required to do so.

Stop being a dumb ass, there is no such thing and never will be any such thing as a Federal Permit.


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Originally Posted by steve4102
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Originally Posted by steve4102
Why are you worried about this potential Universal Background Check?

If you are buying this rifle New and from a dealer, you will be required to go through the existing Background Check.

No new law will change that.


My understanding is that in CT, a certificate is needed to purchase long guns or ammo, which costs $150, after paying for an approved course. A hunting license and hunter safety course are no longer considered sufficient. After speaking with an ATF agent, I was told that because I'm a CT resident, I can't purchase a long gun or ammo outside of CT without the Connecticut long gun and ammo certificate. I don't know if this is true or not, but it's what I was told. If any new federal regulations are implemented, it's possible that I'd be required to purchase a federal certificate as well. If I'm going to need to pay several hundred dollars more to get a rifle, I'd rather do so before I'm required to do so.

Stop being a dumb ass, there is no such thing and never will be any such thing as a Federal Permit.


Give the guy a break. It is tough to understand what things are like in Free America, when one lives behind the iron curtain.


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Originally Posted by Idaho_Shooter

Give the guy a break. It is tough to understand what things are like in Free America, when one lives behind the iron curtain.


Amen. Thank you.


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Originally Posted by Idaho_Shooter
Originally Posted by steve4102
Originally Posted by carved
Originally Posted by steve4102
Why are you worried about this potential Universal Background Check?

If you are buying this rifle New and from a dealer, you will be required to go through the existing Background Check.

No new law will change that.


My understanding is that in CT, a certificate is needed to purchase long guns or ammo, which costs $150, after paying for an approved course. A hunting license and hunter safety course are no longer considered sufficient. After speaking with an ATF agent, I was told that because I'm a CT resident, I can't purchase a long gun or ammo outside of CT without the Connecticut long gun and ammo certificate. I don't know if this is true or not, but it's what I was told. If any new federal regulations are implemented, it's possible that I'd be required to purchase a federal certificate as well. If I'm going to need to pay several hundred dollars more to get a rifle, I'd rather do so before I'm required to do so.

Stop being a dumb ass, there is no such thing and never will be any such thing as a Federal Permit.


Give the guy a break. It is tough to understand what things are like in Free America, when one lives behind the iron curtain.



I know you were being decent, but exactly where is free America?
I don't care about one place less restrictive than another,
But true Free America.

It ceased to exist around 1968.

A case could be made for 1934.

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