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Originally Posted by SandBilly
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Originally Posted by kaywoodie
Ahhhh!!! For the good old days!

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When even ladies hunted while riding sidesaddle.


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The only thing I'd interject into this would be that the birdshot at 10 ft would perform more like a slug that *may* be more frangible than a solid hunk of lead, but from what I've seen, a 1 oz load of #8 acts like, well, a slug at that distance.

Case in point actually involved #6 shot at about 10 feet through the neck of a rather nice deer that walked up on me whilst sqill huntin'. Yes, season was open and I had a tag. And, it was more than seven years ago....

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Originally Posted by Vic_in_Va
The only thing I'd interject into this would be that the birdshot at 10 ft would perform more like a slug that *may* be more frangible than a solid hunk of lead, but from what I've seen, a 1 oz load of #8 acts like, well, a slug at that distance.

Case in point actually involved #6 shot at about 10 feet through the neck of a rather nice deer that walked up on me whilst sqill huntin'. Yes, season was open and I had a tag. And, it was more than seven years ago....



I see what you did there........



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Originally Posted by Ranger_Green
Originally Posted by kaywoodie
Ahhhh!!! For the good old days!

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When even ladies hunted while riding sidesaddle.


With spears!!!


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Originally Posted by Vic_in_Va
The only thing I'd interject into this would be that the birdshot at 10 ft would perform more like a slug that *may* be more frangible than a solid hunk of lead, but from what I've seen, a 1 oz load of #8 acts like, well, a slug at that distance.

Case in point actually involved #6 shot at about 10 feet through the neck of a rather nice deer that walked up on me whilst sqill huntin'. Yes, season was open and I had a tag. And, it was more than seven years ago....


I too have killed a pretty fair truckload of incidental stuff that wasn’t birds with birdshot while I was bird hunting. To include a few pigs. Probably not as many as Dan, but half a dozen anyway. At covey rise distance an ounce of 7 7 1/2s or 8s will flat chew a hole through a pig, or coyote, bobcat, coon, or dilla.

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I’ve thought about the spear deal, might be fun once. They die pretty quick with a knife behind the shoulder I know. Still just really enjoy shooting them, especially big sounders with an AR.
And for the record I’ve cut open some pretty big pigs looking for the “Shield” and haven’t found anything that a 50gr Btip from a 223 wouldn’t penetrate. They get some pretty thick hide over the shoulders but I’ve never managed to find the long touted cartilage shield on one.

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Originally Posted by Ranger_Green
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Ahhhh!!! For the good old days!

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When even ladies hunted while riding sidesaddle.

Either that is a Shetland pony, or that "lady" weighs in at over 400 lbs.
The horse certainly does not look like a Shetland, and the "lady" appears to have a very fine figure. Perhaps the artist has a problem with perspective.


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I sure dont want shot with birdshot, but still figure a slug has better sectional density. Where do you get enough money for 4 big roasts? Those scopes must have been on sale from the same place that's sells all those 24 power tactical things
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Originally Posted by Hotrod_Lincoln
What are those dipschitts doing using scopes at handshake ranges, anyway?
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Originally Posted by DigitalDan
Have killed a bunch of porkers with rifle rounds covering a large part of the caliber spectrum. My favorite is here in my hands, #3 buck at about 20 yards. That particular gun has accounted for about 70 hogs in its day, none required a repeat shot. Anyone doubting the efficacy of close range shot might not have a lot of experience with such things in the field. Fug a bunch of shield theory....it's not so much the gun as the jerk behind the trigger that gets it done.

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Dang it Dan, wear a ring on your left ring finger once upon a time ? The real lesson here might be most 12 shells will work at very close distance on hogs, but just don't wear a ring while wrestling them.

How hard or expensive would it be for some here to get appropriate targets, maybe lined up milk jugs full of water, wet news papers etc. instead of a 100 bucks worth of meat & learn for them selves. While you're at it, gather drywall & plywood scraps from a building site or the like & test penetration there also.
Usually not a month goes buy that I realize how so many misconceptions there are about shotguns.

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Originally Posted by TheKid
Yes true story. An oz of 8s at under 10ft is just like a 1oz slug. Shoot right through a pig’s skull

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Originally Posted by TheKid

And for the record I’ve cut open some pretty big pigs looking for the “Shield” and haven’t found anything that a 50gr Btip from a 223 wouldn’t penetrate. They get some pretty thick hide over the shoulders but I’ve never managed to find the long touted cartilage shield on one.


Agreed. I’ve never seen this shield that people speak of. Maybe the fat layer? I’ve shot more pigs through the head than I can recall, usually with a 223. None of my experience has lead me to believe that there is any magic in killing a hog.

An ounce of birdshot at 10’ is nothing to bet against. I wouldn’t hesitate for a second to shoot a pig in the head with it at that range if that’s what I had.

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How do I locate this other than here?
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Originally Posted by Rooster7
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That Winchester Defender is a wicked round the way it looks. Never heard of buckshot over slug before.




Rooster, they've been making those for a little while.

Some expurtz claim them to be the ultimate home defense round.


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Originally Posted by JP_Lucas
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Yes true story. An oz of 8s at under 10ft is just like a 1oz slug. Shoot right through a pig’s skull

Your name explains how much you know.

How many pigs you kill a month JP? Just curious

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It amazes me at the people that claim to know so much about hunting that know very little. You take your 1 oz of #8 and i will take my 1oz slug anyday and i will bring back more pigs even if we don't shoot them but at 10 feet. I've seen a human shot in the eye with a 12 ga birdshot at less than 5 feet and it didn't come out the head

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Am kinda getting off watching boar attack vids.


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Originally Posted by TheKid
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Yes true story. An oz of 8s at under 10ft is just like a 1oz slug. Shoot right through a pig’s skull

Your name explains how much you know.

How many pigs you kill a month JP? Just curious

How many do you kill with #8 1 oz birdshot?

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A bunch of little things is not the same as one big thing. Jeebus.


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