I already said I’ve killed a half dozen at close range with small birdshot. It will auger a hole into them just like a slug. And no it won’t exit but foster slugs often won’t either.
the only real difference between a good tracker and a bad tracker, is observation. all the same data is present for both. The rest, is understanding what you're seeing.
And for the record I’ve cut open some pretty big pigs looking for the “Shield” and haven’t found anything that a 50gr Btip from a 223 wouldn’t penetrate. They get some pretty thick hide over the shoulders but I’ve never managed to find the long touted cartilage shield on one.
Agreed. I’ve never seen this shield that people speak of. Maybe the fat layer? I’ve shot more pigs through the head than I can recall, usually with a 223. None of my experience has lead me to believe that there is any magic in killing a hog.
An ounce of birdshot at 10’ is nothing to bet against. I wouldn’t hesitate for a second to shoot a pig in the head with it at that range if that’s what I had.
I've never skinned a hog to look either, shot four wild hogs last spring here from the back porch, from 509 to iirc 579 yards with my old heavy 300 win mag, went up to check em out and did some penetration testing with my 40 cal and 200gr XTP handloads, shot the first 200lb dead boar straight in the shoulder from 5 feet, exit, went home and it occurred to me I didn't know where the 'shield' was, the next boar was about 225/250 lbs, black Russian nasty roguey sombitch, shot him through the shoulders at 5 feet, then put one tight behind the shoulder, again, two shots, two exits, I have no concerns about getting a hog or black bear to leave me alone with that old P226 and 200gr XTP handload.
Bud of mine dropped one at 17 paces with 20 gauge and 6 shot squirrel hunting one morning couple seasons ago. 80 lb boar running straight at him. I've killed dozens with 308 , 35 Remington and bow . I stalk them on the ground every year and a lot of the shots are 10 yards. Biggest boar I have killed was this past season estimated 250 plus. Have been trying to kill a bigger one that I see every season that could be 350 plus but He doesn't give anyone a shot, always in the thickets and always running. Have to be careful not to shoot bears where I hunt , can't just shoot at big black animals then ground check what you killed.
Here’s the “shield” off a 200 pound ish pig. This is the thickest part over the top forward part of the shoulders. No bone, no cartilage, just hide. If it’s stopping bullets you’re using some really inferior bullets.
Well that old pre-27 357 mag riding in that fine holster you sent me chunking 158gr Cast Performance hardcasts at 1400 fps dang sure wont be stopped by that.
Darn, I almost missed your post, MB. I been looking for it a while and couldnt find it on UTube but was looking for it and watching others and found it in the right border of another video.
Top 5 Wild Boar Attacks 2019. Khalil Chasse.
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Have killed a bunch of porkers with rifle rounds covering a large part of the caliber spectrum. My favorite is here in my hands, #3 buck at about 20 yards. That particular gun has accounted for about 70 hogs in its day, none required a repeat shot. Anyone doubting the efficacy of close range shot might not have a lot of experience with such things in the field. Fug a bunch of shield theory....it's not so much the gun as the jerk behind the trigger that gets it done.
Dang it Dan, wear a ring on your left ring finger once upon a time ? The real lesson here might be most 12 shells will work at very close distance on hogs, but just don't wear a ring while wrestling them.
I did, then one day it divorced me in a very final fashion. It stang a bit but the evolution has been useful at times. Cashiers that are diddlin' around quit as soon as I start wigglin' it at them. I can flip a bird with half the effort of most folks. Chicks always want to sit on my right side for some weird reason.
For the record, that's a 20 bore I'm holdin' there. I save the 12 bore for Godzilla.
I am..........disturbed.
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