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Would appreciate suggestions/recommendations for the best(most reliable-cost effective??) method to ship a medium size box of salmon to a friend in WI? Overnight or slightly longer? Just needs to be solid when it arrives.
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Great question...

I have sent and received fish in USPS Flat-Rate boxes insulated with styrofoam.

Gr8fulDoug sent a box of frozen tuna with a center of fresh tuna and it arrived in wonderful shape. It was incredible!

I have sent stuff frozen in deliberate, perfectly-nesting pieces via USPS Priority and have never had a problem. I use styrofoam panels from various packing boxes and assemble them with spray foam to keep the whole thing as tight as possible.

In a large Flat Rate box I can get about 15 pounds of protein...


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Originally Posted by Sitka deer
Great question...

I have sent and received fish in USPS Flat-Rate boxes insulated with styrofoam.

Gr8fulDoug sent a box of frozen tuna with a center of fresh tuna and it arrived in wonderful shape. It was incredible!

I have sent stuff frozen in deliberate, perfectly-nesting pieces via USPS Priority and have never had a problem. I use styrofoam panels from various packing boxes and assemble them with spray foam to keep the whole thing as tight as possible.

In a large Flat Rate box I can get about 15 pounds of protein...

i've done this also, only time i had a problem was when i sent leighton some hog backstraps, it was during dec. it showed up 2 weeks late and busted open. the smell was not pleasant.


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Art has it dialed in, i'd add that you might want to ship it next day too.


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Originally Posted by AkMtnHntr
Art has it dialed in, i'd add that you might want to ship it next day too.

Next Day may be safer, but it is way more expensive. When Priority works it is worth every nickel...


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Like Art said , i to build my own boxes always finding new left over sheet foam, fill put the whole works in the frezzer, come monday mor'n close an seal than rite to the p office .


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Originally Posted by Sitka deer
Great question...

I have sent and received fish in USPS Flat-Rate boxes insulated with styrofoam.

Gr8fulDoug sent a box of frozen tuna with a center of fresh tuna and it arrived in wonderful shape. It was incredible!

I have sent stuff frozen in deliberate, perfectly-nesting pieces via USPS Priority and have never had a problem. I use styrofoam panels from various packing boxes and assemble them with spray foam to keep the whole thing as tight as possible.

In a large Flat Rate box I can get about 15 pounds of protein...

What is typical transit time via flat rate?


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Originally Posted by Sitka deer
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Art has it dialed in, i'd add that you might want to ship it next day too.

Next Day may be safer, but it is way more expensive. When Priority works it is worth every nickel...
I agree that PM works, I use it almost every week but overnight gets it there while it's still frozen, btdt to the east coast. Just another option for the OP.


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Originally Posted by ironbender
Originally Posted by Sitka deer
Great question...

I have sent and received fish in USPS Flat-Rate boxes insulated with styrofoam.

Gr8fulDoug sent a box of frozen tuna with a center of fresh tuna and it arrived in wonderful shape. It was incredible!

I have sent stuff frozen in deliberate, perfectly-nesting pieces via USPS Priority and have never had a problem. I use styrofoam panels from various packing boxes and assemble them with spray foam to keep the whole thing as tight as possible.

In a large Flat Rate box I can get about 15 pounds of protein...

What is typical transit time via flat rate?
3-5 days, depending on destination.


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Might as well flat rate. "Overnight" is about the same in my experience. In time., but costs more.

Or maybe that was just out in the Bush.

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Originally Posted by AkMtnHntr
Originally Posted by ironbender
Originally Posted by Sitka deer
Great question...

I have sent and received fish in USPS Flat-Rate boxes insulated with styrofoam.

Gr8fulDoug sent a box of frozen tuna with a center of fresh tuna and it arrived in wonderful shape. It was incredible!

I have sent stuff frozen in deliberate, perfectly-nesting pieces via USPS Priority and have never had a problem. I use styrofoam panels from various packing boxes and assemble them with spray foam to keep the whole thing as tight as possible.

In a large Flat Rate box I can get about 15 pounds of protein...

What is typical transit time via flat rate?
3-5 days, depending on destination.


Generally faster IME and if it is a block and sealed airtight inside the styrofoam it is still frozen at the other end.


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Originally Posted by ironbender
Originally Posted by Sitka deer
Great question...

I have sent and received fish in USPS Flat-Rate boxes insulated with styrofoam.

Gr8fulDoug sent a box of frozen tuna with a center of fresh tuna and it arrived in wonderful shape. It was incredible!

I have sent stuff frozen in deliberate, perfectly-nesting pieces via USPS Priority and have never had a problem. I use styrofoam panels from various packing boxes and assemble them with spray foam to keep the whole thing as tight as possible.

In a large Flat Rate box I can get about 15 pounds of protein...

What is typical transit time via flat rate?

Most of the time the Flat Rate boxes get there within three days.

I like to build the box and freeze the last couple pieces to fit together exactly. I also run my freezer as cold as it will go, always and it runs at -25 or so.


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Thanks for the suggestion of using a Flat Rate box and the other pearls of knowledge I hadn't considered, such as using spray foam to seal and tighten it all up. I was planning on using a medium size fish box. I was also seriously considering 2nd day instead of overnight, since as las had noted overnight often becomes overnight(s) when shipping from AK. I had anticipated $120 give or take a Jackson to make it all happen. $19.95 for approximately half the volume is a bargain!

I will be playing a game of sockeye tetrus to pack it all in as tightly as possible and ship it on Monday to my buddies business address to improve the odds of success. I guess if it doesn't make it in good shape he can always use it for coyote or catfish bait.

I run my freezers at almost the coldest setting, -15 to -20. Slightly less "gooder" than -25 but also slightly less duty cycle on the freezer, which in theory should make it last longer.

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Originally Posted by JimInAK
Thanks for the suggestion of using a Flat Rate box and the other pearls of knowledge I hadn't considered, such as using spray foam to seal and tighten it all up. I was planning on using a medium size fish box. I was also seriously considering 2nd day instead of overnight, since as las had noted overnight often becomes overnight(s) when shipping from AK. I had anticipated $120 give or take a Jackson to make it all happen. $19.95 for approximately half the volume is a bargain!

I will be playing a game of sockeye tetrus to pack it all in as tightly as possible and ship it on Monday to my buddies business address to improve the odds of success. I guess if it doesn't make it in good shape he can always use it for coyote or catfish bait.

I run my freezers at almost the coldest setting, -15 to -20. Slightly less "gooder" than -25 but also slightly less duty cycle on the freezer, which in theory should make it last longer.


My freezer has been run at the coldest setting since its infancy in 1980. Tetrus works better if you cheat and use fresh packed stuff frozen in place between already frozen pieces. It conforms to the mold on each side. You can get some really dense packages that way.

Gel packs freeze at a lower temp but have high latent heat so they will keep the fish colder while they are thawing, instead of the fish. Because I have been happy with the results so far I have not bothered to use them, but in theory they would help.


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tetras sockeye, should I google?


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The comment about freezer duty cycle was a bit tongue in cheek, which often doesn't translate in text. ( I r an en,ga,neer) haha. It does seem that the older equipment was designed with a much longer life cycle. As a kid my parents had a refrigerator and freezer that had been my dad's grandparents. The chest freezer lasted 40+ years, and the refrigerator was still going strong many years later when they finally "upgraded".

After the past couple of years of poor salmon runs I hadn't really considered shipping anything off. If this works as suspected it will, I was thinking about pre-freezing blocks of fish packages to ship. The only concern I had was with the time it would take for the entire block to freeze. Alternating frozen with fresh is a good idea to expedite the freezing time. Thanks again!! Will definitely be on the radar for next year.

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rost495: "tetras sockeye, should I google?"

Manipulating to fit as tightly as possible...

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Originally Posted by JimInAK
The comment about freezer duty cycle was a bit tongue in cheek, which often doesn't translate in text. ( I r an en,ga,neer) haha. It does seem that the older equipment was designed with a much longer life cycle. As a kid my parents had a refrigerator and freezer that had been my dad's grandparents. The chest freezer lasted 40+ years, and the refrigerator was still going strong many years later when they finally "upgraded".

After the past couple of years of poor salmon runs I hadn't really considered shipping anything off. If this works as suspected it will, I was thinking about pre-freezing blocks of fish packages to ship. The only concern I had was with the time it would take for the entire block to freeze. Alternating frozen with fresh is a good idea to expedite the freezing time. Thanks again!! Will definitely be on the radar for next year.

Got me to thinking I might get me son to weld up a couple aluminum boxes just right to fit in a flat rate box after it is insulated. The fish would freeze quickly and could be added to over time and packaged and shipped when filled.

Hmmmmmmmm


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Hmmm, interesting idea. I was thinking of maybe freezing a medium flat rate box and nesting it inside a large. A custom Al box definitely has merit. I guess I better jump on that patent application!

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All joking aside, I would be willing to throw a few bucks your kids way if he would be interested in making a couple more Al boxes.

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