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Doesn't Lapua CM brass use small rifle primers?
If so, I'd go with 450's...
I prefer LR primers in a case that size.
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Grouped 3 different charges, 44, 44.4, and 44.8gr. None of them showed me anything special, grouping about .8” for five shots. Extreme spreads weren’t great either, running about 37fps. I’m going to load some up and see how they do at long range just for grins.
John I know, different strokes, but any load that puts five shots from a hunting rifle into .8” at 100 yds. is special in my opinion. This was out of my match gun with an M24 contour barrel. Not your typical hunting rig. With loads it likes, .3s and .4s are pretty common. Attached one below. This one was actually .291” Same load as the ten shot groups I posted on one of the previous pages. John
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Doesn't Lapua CM brass use small rifle primers?
If so, I'd go with 450's...
I prefer LR primers in a case that size.
DF Yes that's what I use is 450's primers , with 120 Bt.
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Grouped 3 different charges, 44, 44.4, and 44.8gr. None of them showed me anything special, grouping about .8” for five shots. Extreme spreads weren’t great either, running about 37fps. I’m going to load some up and see how they do at long range just for grins.
John I know, different strokes, but any load that puts five shots from a hunting rifle into .8” at 100 yds. is special in my opinion. I like good hunting rifles to group better than .8 5 shot groups as well. .8 avg for 10 shots is even mo betta: .6 is even better: But a good lightweight hunting rifle. I'll take .8 10 shot groups all day long...:
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Hondo, Thanks for the explain. I now understand your desire for little groups. My hunting rig puts its favorites into less than an inch for three shots regularly, but I’ve really got to be on top of my game with five shots. The reason for my comment.
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My hunting rig is a Beanland built Bighorn Origin with a #3 Bartlein in a McMillan Adjustable Game Scout. On one of those rare occasions when the wind was relatively calm here, I did a little load development at 500 yards. Five 5-shot groups from five different loads averaged .555 MOA at 500 yards. From a barrel that light, that is simply outstanding. The next day, I took the best load from 500 and put it on paper at 100. It was pretty gusty that morning and my portable bench was wobbling pretty good but it still gave me this five shot group. Load specifics are on the target. Subtract 1” from the displayed OAL for the BTO. John
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That's a nice one. Inch at 500 out of a hunting rifle. It just don't get mo better than that... DF
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I wish it was an inch at 500. The load that is on paper above did .498 MOA at 500 which is 3.66”. I can live with it though.😁
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I wish it was an inch at 500. The load that is on paper above did .498 MOA at 500 which is 3.66”. I can live with it though.😁
John Yeah, that would be something. I’ve shot a few three shot eye openers. My .240 HS Precision loves the 100 NPT over MRP. I once put three in 1,7” at 400. Doubt I could ever repeat it. But that was fun, one of those groups you don’t dare try another round. I’ve shot slightly over 2” at 400, 120 E-Tip at 3,450 fps 26 Nosler with 869 powder. Barrel gets too hot with 5 shot groups. Those kinda groups are definitely the exception. I always enjoy it when that happens. DF
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That's pretty sweet John. Thanks for sharing..
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Great info guys. Keep it coming.
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I tried 48 grs. RL- 26 with 140 AB, Lapua brass this weekend. Not sure of the speed but it groups under 1/2". Not sure why Alliant doesn't show any load data for RL-26 though.
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I tried 48 grs. RL- 26 with 140 AB, Lapua brass this weekend. Not sure of the speed but it groups under 1/2". Not sure why Alliant doesn't show any load data for RL-26 though. I have not figured that out, either. If it was not so good, I could understand it, but Reloder 26 is a fantastic powder for the Creed.
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Morning Sid! Good to see you’re still around! memtb
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Was playing with Sierra 130gr Gamechangers and H4350 last night. The 41gr load Nosler has as it's most accurate was also mine. A 4 shot group had 3 in one hole and one just right opening the group to 1/2". Not real fast at 2740fps but dang accurate. Bumped it up to 42.0, got just under 2800 fps w/ 4 shots going into just under 1". Went to 42.5gr and groups opened up another 1/8" to 1 1/8" and velocity was 2825fps. Need to verify but that 41.0gr load was impressive. Details - Hornady Brass CCI 200 Primers H4350 - 41.0gr Sierra 130gr TGK 2.80 COL 85 degrees 3-5 wind 2740fps +/- 5 fps 4 shots in 1/2" @ 100 yards Should add this was from my Bergara Woodsman w/ 3-10 scope.
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That’s a good looking rig you’ve got there, centershot.
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That’s a good looking rig you’ve got there, centershot.
Thanks, Here is a better pic. Wood on this rifle is beautiful for an off the shelf rifle. Even better, it shoots as good as it looks! - So good that I got a little carried away on a new scope. Another load I have had great luck with is Hornady 129gr SST's with 38.5gr of RL-15, CCI 200's, Hornady Brass, 2.820 COL. 2760fps
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That’s a good looking rig you’ve got there, centershot.
Thanks, Here is a better pic. Wood on this rifle is beautiful for an off the shelf rifle. Even better, it shoots as good as it looks! - So good that I got a little carried away on a new scope. Another load I have had great luck with is Hornady 129gr SST's with 38.5gr of RL-15, CCI 200's, Hornady Brass, 2.820 COL. 2760fps How does it feed? My brother and I both have B14's and the feed rails are terrible. The brass looks like you ran over them on a concrete driveway after a few cycles. I tried to polish mine but didn't help much.
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No issue feeding, does scrape the brass a bit ejecting. No worse than any of the 700's I have owned. I personally think they are one of the best production rifles currently out.
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