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Doubt I’ll ever be inside an LDS house of worship, unless I mistake it for a steakhouse since they’re all designed to look like a fancy Sizzler, but if I am I damn sure will be armed.
....unlike the pioneers that were slaughtered at Mountain Meadows, who I bet wished that this policy had been in force at the time. 😬
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Didn't Jesus whip some ass when it needed whipping, money changers or the like? Why would He have a problem with a follower defending the faithful against someone with horrible intent?
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Didn't Jesus whip some ass when it needed whipping, money changers or the like? Why would He have a problem with a follower defending the faithful against someone with horrible intent? Yep, platted a whip, a definite assault weapon, surely not defensive. And, he did kick some serious arse, turned over tables, went ballistic. And it worked; he got their attention... DF
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Ammo and guns are a LOT cheaper... DF Right and they don't fuss and cry or get jealous if you show favoritism.
Patriotism (and religion) is the last refuge of a scoundrel.
Jesus: "Take heed that no man deceive you."
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Doubt I’ll ever be inside an LDS house of worship, unless I mistake it for a steakhouse since they’re all designed to look like a fancy Sizzler, but if I am I damn sure will be armed.
....unlike the pioneers that were slaughtered at Mountain Meadows, who I bet wished that this policy had been in force at the time. 😬 Yeah, Mountain Meadows was mass murder. You think they'd have learned something. DF
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Doubt I’ll ever be inside an LDS house of worship, unless I mistake it for a steakhouse since they’re all designed to look like a fancy Sizzler, but if I am I damn sure will be armed. ....unlike the pioneers that were slaughtered at Mountain Meadows, who I bet wished that this policy had been in force at the time. 😬 You don't understand. It was ok to kill them. They were Methodists and had a big herd of cattle and a good bit of money with them.
Patriotism (and religion) is the last refuge of a scoundrel.
Jesus: "Take heed that no man deceive you."
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Well, that's were mass shooters will go from now on. No one will be able to shoot back.
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It seems if a member of the congregation had to pop a cap then the place of peace thing was already out the window at that point. If they feel that way, you know they aren't going to instruct people to stay down if the shooting starts. Someone walks through the door shooting and someone with a gun jumps up between the good guy and the bad guy, they are liable to get shot. Some preachers don't take to an education and appreciate it. At least not in our church. I brought that up to him and he just looked at me. They apparently have no plan and are good with that. Personally that doesn't sit will with me, but I don't go to that church. I think they are inviting trouble. Just what they need is another gun free zone for the loonies to focus in on. Here in Idaho, I suspect there are several guns in each service, including mine.
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Yeah, where I attend church there is a security plan. They don't talk about it, but I've heard a whisper or two from some buds, well represented by U.S. Marshals, State Police, Sheriffs, etc., some retired, some not.
They kinda know the drill if you get my drift... There would be some returned fire pretty quick. As they say, when seconds count, the police are minutes away... I think things would already be heated up before the police arrived.
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They will learn, just like everyone else has learned (or refused to learn) that when you declare your space "gun free" bad men with guns will come and shoot you.
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So, whatever Mormon hating freak wants, he's got fame handed to him on a silver platter. I give it two years.
Up hills slow, Down hills fast Tonnage first and Safety last.
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Doubt I’ll ever be inside an LDS house of worship, unless I mistake it for a steakhouse since they’re all designed to look like a fancy Sizzler, but if I am I damn sure will be armed.
....unlike the pioneers that were slaughtered at Mountain Meadows, who I bet wished that this policy had been in force at the time. 😬 Yeah, Mountain Meadows was mass murder. You think they'd have learned something. DF And that was Mormons that did the killing.
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Just spoke to a couple LDS members I work with here in Utah. They were not happy when I read this to them. Both said they will still be carrying.
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Why don't they just advertise to the World, and all of the violent maniacs, that they are all unarmed and ready to be slaughtered.
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Just spoke to a couple LDS members I work with here in Utah. They were not happy when I read this to them. Both said they will still be carrying. Concealed means concealed, eh?
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I was carrying at my grandmother's funeral. By Ohio law, the head of the church must KNOW and approve, or I have broken a law just by carrying inside a house of worship. I asked the minister thier views on concealed carry, and was told that there are at least 2 in the congregation most days. I mentioned the fact that they must know and approve for it to be legal, and I too have a CCW. The stole came out, and i was blessed on the spot. Permission granted.
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the only real difference between a good tracker and a bad tracker, is observation. all the same data is present for both. The rest, is understanding what you're seeing.
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Carrying isn't a bad idea, i have Concealed carry to the church a few times and it has been all good. no one can predict when evil comes.
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Yeah....they are just begging for a disaster of epic proportions...
PREZACTLY
"Allways speak the truth and you will never have to remember what you said before..." Sam Houston Texans, "We say Grace, We Say Mam, If You Don't Like it, We Don't Give a Damn!"
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I believe the answer is yes...
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Why don't they just advertise to the World, and all of the violent maniacs, that they are all unarmed and ready to be slaughtered. Yeah right, they have been trying to get non members to come to church for decades, it’s unlikely that will start now. It’s funny how people that know the least about a church or organization will tell you the most about it...
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